simplesituations Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 This coming from a 38 inch WASTE? Still, good and true info. 38 inch waste????? What are you talking about, am I missing something here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillSing Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Unless i missed it i dont see Sheldon Roads vote . Im not 100 % on the exact numbers. I was told it was voted NO 69 % production and NO 69 % Trades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trufflebuns Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 38 inch waste????? What are you talking about, am I missing something here?? My Bad! Typo: Should have read 48 inch waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trufflebuns Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 What is UTP? Also, I heard that Chicago Assembly passed at 59% yes. UTP is/was Utica Trim. Also Romeo Engine passed, I believe, by 53%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplesituations Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 My Bad! Typo: Should have read 48 inch waste. OOOOOOOooooookaaaaayyy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
551body Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 What is UTP? Also, I heard that Chicago Assembly passed at 59% yes. Chicago Local 551 Skilled trades 58 yes 42 no Production 69 yes 71 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigphish Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Chicago Local 551 Skilled trades 58 yes 42 no Production 69 yes 71 no those production # don't add up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rogerrabbit Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 I went through the different forums and found these numbers, add your plants and numbers so we can keep track as the voting goes on: PLANT YES % NO % #OF EMPLOYEES Saline 24 76 500? Walton Hills production 59 41 trades 66 34 Woodhaven production 23 77 trades 45 55 Lima production 47 53 trades 52 48 Cleveland 65 35 Flatrock 51 49 3,200 Local 900 production 83 17 trades 53 47 3,900 Rawsonville production 60.6 39.4 trades 62 38 Sterling 59 41 2,200 Chicago production 59 41 1,000 chicago trades 49 51 145 Correct any mistakes and give number of employees at your plant, we can come close to figuring out how the vote is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatbaby Posted March 7, 2009 Author Share Posted March 7, 2009 Anybody heard about the local 600 vote? If anything, this will be the telling factor if it passes or not, since it the biggest. In another post, one plant says it passed another says it didn't. Haven't seen any numbers yet. If anyone has numbers from 600 could you post them for us. We are all waiting on the 600 outcome, it's funny, I don't remember ever seeing this in the past. I know there is no way to tell unless we have real numbers not just percentages. But there are quite a few plants that have voted this down. For some stupid reason, I thought at first, Saline would be the only plant voting it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSchmi Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 In another post, one plant says it passed another says it didn't. Haven't seen any numbers yet. If anyone has numbers from 600 could you post them for us.We are all waiting on the 600 outcome, it's funny, I don't remember ever seeing this in the past. I know there is no way to tell unless we have real numbers not just percentages. But there are quite a few plants that have voted this down. For some stupid reason, I thought at first, Saline would be the only plant voting it down. Detroit News this AM says 1900 votes YES, 1600 NO, at Local 600. The DTP unit vote was 64% NO, I was told. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford/UAW4life? Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Local 1216 Sandusky ACH passed@ 63%. Production was 139 yes, 116 no(54.5%), Skilled was 85 yes, 14 no (86%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Is ratification is based on total membership Yes or total Plants Yes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 GAME OVER!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edsel Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 GAME OVER!!!!! Cap in hand boys, cap in hand......... Ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Is ratification is based on total membership Yes or total Plants Yes? Yes. Half the vote, plus one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickf77 Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 Here are the voting numbers reported to the International. Yes No Local 76 Manteca 45 14 Local 182 Livonia 348 285 Local 228 Steriling 446 305 245 R & E 299 151 376 Hartford 21 8 387 Woodhaven 208 381 400 Romeo Engine 351 317 849 Ypsilanti 7 10 864 Houston HVC 22 14 882 Atlanta Parts 19 25 892 Saline 84 263 898 Rawsonville 472 236 900 MTP/Wayne 1141 319 919 Norfolk 1 0 1219 Lima 238 253 1250 Cleveland 524 351 1892 Maumee 2 12 2210 New York PDC 31 16 3000 AAI 908 868 3520 Greensboro HVC 25 3 TOTAL VOTES 8923 5092 3831 approx. 57% yes What happened at local 900? Was in international passing out the peace pipe before you went in to vote and those that voted no must not have inhaled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplesituations Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 local 600???? They passed it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplesituations Posted March 7, 2009 Share Posted March 7, 2009 local 600, 1,900 yes 1,600 no according to another thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
551body Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 those production # don't add up Most people at Chicago Assembly assume it's going to pass regardless of how we vote, so they just don't bother voting. We've had several problems with counting votes accurately in the pass. Our local agreement was voted down last year so our chairman decided to just have another vote. The company hired a couple hundred more tpt's and we voted again and it passed. I guess most of the membership has given up on the Union and choses not to get involved. We can't even get 100 members to show up so we can have a Union meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatbaby Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks for the numbers Rickf77. This is helpful. Who is left to vote this weekend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Wondering Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 Ohio Assembly passed theirs by 86%. I heard we had a lot of people show up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) Ohio Assembly passed theirs by 86%. I heard we had a lot of people show up. It is a hard pill to swallow, but I think they understand what is at stake, even without a solid product commitment. Edited March 8, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh Jorgan Posted March 8, 2009 Share Posted March 8, 2009 (edited) Thanks for the numbers Rickf77. This is helpful.Who is left to vote this weekend? Polls close in 10 minutes for Local 862. K.T.P, L.A.P, and Evansville H.V.C. Big turnout when I was there this afternoon. Hard to gauge which way it is going to go. Quite a few brothers and sisters with less than 10 years are scared to death of this in-zone seniority bumping. With nothing more than a promise of new product for L.A.P., this mod has em worried. I don't think a verbal promise from Ford on future products left everyone warm and fuzzy. Edited March 8, 2009 by Hugh Jorgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaah Posted March 9, 2009 Share Posted March 9, 2009 People are scared and with good reason. You would need a lot of confidence to vote NO in these times. It is easier to vote YES and hand the responsibility of your future off to someone else than to vote NO. In either case people may lose jobs but those voting YES can blame the union, those voting NO have to accept that blame for themselves. Its sad but in these times it is very easy to intimidate anyone wanting to vote NO. I feel bad that it passed but I understand why, our turn is next and I expect most people will be brow beaten into a YES vote also. Goodluck to everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boatbaby Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share Posted March 9, 2009 Kentucky passed over the weekend, is there anyone left. It looks like it will go through with the large locals passing it. We should know today. If anyone see the final tally, please post it here. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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