fmccap Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Also on Obama's plate: an immigration bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Yeah, how about keeping even more illegals from coming in first before we start to worry about granting the ones that are already here any sort of citizenship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Also on Obama's plate: an immigration bill They're aren't enough jobs available for American citizens as it is. Obama's reaction: Flood the job market with 12 million+ new citizens. North Korea launches a rocket to display they're power as a nuclear threat. Obama's reaction: Cripple our missile defense system by closing down valuable missile defense programs and infrastructure, including the closest missile defense base that we have to North Korea. Barack Obama is officially an enemy of the United States of America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKRACER Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 They're aren't enough jobs available for American citizens as it is. Obama's reaction: Flood the job market with 12 million+ new citizens. North Korea launches a rocket to display they're power as a nuclear threat. Obama's reaction: Cripple our missile defense system by closing down valuable missile defense programs and infrastructure, including the closest missile defense base that we have to North Korea. Barack Obama is officially an enemy of the United States of America. EXACTLY! Anyone who can't see that is totally naive and/or hates America. All you did is present FACTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoVisteon Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) Yeah, how about keeping even more illegals from coming in first before we start to worry about granting the ones that are already here any sort of citizenship. Bottomline, for the ILLEGALS that are already here, if they are found and caught, OUT THEY GO! No ands, Ifs or Buts!!! No Exceptions!!!! How are hard is that for ANYONE to understand? Other countries in the world don't play this sort of mind game horseshit, why do we keep doing it? Money? Sure!! A lot of employers have been fucking not only our own citizens, but the gov't too, on tax revenues, etc, etc, also! This can and SHOULD be put to a vote by the voters, not left in the hands of our nutless governments!!! Remember what the phrase "WE THE PEOPLE" stands for!!!Time to get down and dirty now with these fuckin bureaucrats!!! Edited April 9, 2009 by NoMoVisteon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoVisteon Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 They're aren't enough jobs available for American citizens as it is. Obama's reaction: Flood the job market with 12 million+ new citizens. North Korea launches a rocket to display they're power as a nuclear threat. Obama's reaction: Cripple our missile defense system by closing down valuable missile defense programs and infrastructure, including the closest missile defense base that we have to North Korea. Barack Obama is officially an enemy of the United States of America. I can AGREE with that, but let's not forget Pelosi, and too many of both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress and the House and Senate also, who have and still continue, to SELL OUT our country! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKRACER Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 (edited) I can AGREE with that, but let's not forget Pelosi, and too many of both the Democrats and Republicans in Congress and the House and Senate also, who have and still continue, to SELL OUT our country! Yep. Dems want the votes and the Reps want cheap labor for big business. The rest of us get screwed. Here in Ca. the illegals are draining our health care and education system dry. No wonder we are almost bankrupt... Edited April 9, 2009 by DUCKRACER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cocheese Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Isn't Barry's aunt an illegal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxman100 Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Is any policy of Obama really a surprise to anyone? If you paid attention to his record, and during the campaign, you had to know he was a flaming, irrational liberal who would make Jimmy Carter look moderate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoVisteon Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Is any policy of Obama really a surprise to anyone? If you paid attention to his record, and during the campaign, you had to know he was a flaming, irrational liberal who would make Jimmy Carter look moderate. Good points on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMoVisteon Posted April 9, 2009 Share Posted April 9, 2009 Yep. Dems want the votes and the Reps want cheap labor for big business. The rest of us get screwed. Here in Ca. the illegals are draining our health care and education system dry. No wonder we are almost bankrupt... Hey Duck, I feel for those of you in Ca. And your state budgets are right at the very point of bankruptcy too, from what I've been reading and hearing. That's sad, really sad. And to think that some of the WORST representatives EVER in the Fed Gov't came from there also. Pelosi, Waxman, Feinstein, etc, come to mind. Try not to get teary, now that they are in D.C. and have power and the misuse of that power in Washington like they do, the rest of the country will be in as much trouble, if not more. Just my guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 They're aren't enough jobs available for American citizens as it is. Obama's reaction: Flood the job market with 12 million+ new citizens. North Korea launches a rocket to display they're power as a nuclear threat. Obama's reaction: Cripple our missile defense system by closing down valuable missile defense programs and infrastructure, including the closest missile defense base that we have to North Korea. Barack Obama is officially an enemy of the United States of America. Display there power as a nuclear threat??? Valuable programs??? From what I have seen they are closing the endless money pit programs that have not become anything yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Isn't Barry's aunt an illegal? Yes and has been for sometime. http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/02/oba...tion=cnn_latest Complain here or contact President Barack Obama To Email President Obama, click here. http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/ Phone: 202-456-1111 Or call the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Email: sf.nancy@mail.house.gov Phone: 202-225-4965 Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid Email: senator_reid@reid.senate.gov Phone: 202-224-3542 Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano Mail: Department of Homeland Security Washington, DC 20528 Phone: 202-282-8495 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Isn't Barry's aunt an illegal? Yes sir she is. So if this does go through congress and he signs it, he can be impeached under the conflict of interest clause :yup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron W. Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Yes sir she is. So if this does go through congress and he signs it, he can be impeached under the conflict of interest clause :yup: Impeached? Not bloody likely. Edited April 10, 2009 by Ron W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) Display there power as a nuclear threat??? Valuable programs??? From what I have seen they are closing the endless money pit programs that have not become anything yet. If you're going to try and make a valid point, at least use valid spelling and punctuation- moron. Yes, North Korea has nuclear bombs and a means to deliver them. What rock have you been living under? You're trying to argue that "they" are closing endless money pit programs? :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: Last I checked, "they" have created more endless money pit programs than any other administration is United States history. Go take you're bullsh*t rhetoric somewhere else. Intelligent humans base decisions on facts. Edited April 10, 2009 by Versa-Tech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 If you're going to try and make a valid point, at least use valid spelling and punctuation- moron. Yes, North Korea has nuclear bombs and a means to deliver them. What rock have you been living under? You're trying to argue that "they" are closing endless money pit programs? :hysterical: :hysterical: :hysterical: Last I checked, "they" have created more endless money pit programs than any other administration is United States history. Go take you're bullsh*t rhetoric somewhere else. Intelligent humans base decisions on facts. Fact 1. No spelling errors. Fact 2. Show me the fact as to a means to deliver something. Fact 3. If they did do something we could inialate them in hours. Fact 4. We agree about the endless money pit programs. Fact 5. At least they are ending some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 North Korea launches a rocket to display they're power as a nuclear threat. No. North Korea launches a rocket to display they still have a lot to learn about building rockets. Then they have to learn about making a re-entry ablative-shield warhead. Then they have to learn to build a rocket that doesn't take a week to set up and fuel. That's a whole different bag of chemistry. The point is, it's going to be a while. Apparently the Pakistani Kahn design is a big, heavy device, somewhere around a ton. They may even have to learn how to make it smaller, because their booster can't do ICBM distance with that kind of weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 No. North Korea launches a rocket to display they still have a lot to learn about building rockets. Then they have to learn about making a re-entry ablative-shield warhead. Then they have to learn to build a rocket that doesn't take a week to set up and fuel. That's a whole different bag of chemistry. The point is, it's going to be a while. Apparently the Pakistani Kahn design is a big, heavy device, somewhere around a ton. They may even have to learn how to make it smaller, because their booster can't do ICBM distance with that kind of weight. Wow, we agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Good points from all. My apologies to FMC for being so harsh. My point is that North Korea is very far from being able to deliver an ICBM, but they could very well deliver a warhead to South Korea or Japan. Either of which would require us to retaliate with nuclear force. I'm not saying that the missile defense program is needed to defend against North Korean Missiles, I'm just saying that it's bad political policy to go shutting down missile defense programs the day after north Korea launches a rocket that could potentially develop into a viable threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share Posted April 10, 2009 Good points from all. My apologies to FMC for being so harsh. My point is that North Korea is very far from being able to deliver an ICBM, but they could very well deliver a warhead to South Korea or Japan. Either of which would require us to retaliate with nuclear force. I'm not saying that the missile defense program is needed to defend against North Korean Missiles, I'm just saying that it's bad political policy to go shutting down missile defense programs the day after north Korea launches a rocket that could potentially develop into a viable threat. The hell with politics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versa-Tech Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 The hell with politics. Meh, you do have a point there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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