FordBuyer Posted August 13, 2009 Share Posted August 13, 2009 How do they determine 230mpg when the Volt will only go maybe 40 miles on one charge, assuming ambient temps of above 40 degrees and level ground with no steep hills. Also assuming one driver of less than 200 pounds. A guy from Automotive News who is supposedly very knowledgeable about the Volt claimed it would get about 40mpg on the highway which is about the same as $15,000 Fiesta, and the Fiesta will be out much sooner and be much cheaper. Btw, I was thinking about buying an electric bicycle the other day, or converting my present bike to electric power option, and range is 25 miles if ground is level and temps are not cold. The battery used costs $500, weighs seven pounds, and is lithium ion. Sorry, but not enough range for me, and will wait until battery technology gets it up to at least 50 mile range. Moral of story: if 25 mile battery range is not enough for me on bicycle, no way is paltry 40 mile range enough on $40,000 vehicle. More work needs to be done on batteries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 (edited) The Volt will be the first, but givien GM's inability to keep up with the competition, Ford, Toyota, etc. will produce cheaper, better built and equally efficient high MPG vehilcles. Maybe MPGs isn't the way to look at these vehicles? Of course electricity is more expensive in CA.....but 3X????? http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/07/sd...ic-vehicles.php California’s electricity capacity could recharge as many as 4 million plug-in hybrids when charged during off-peak hours when electricity use is low. The plug-in hybrid’s fuel-cost savings over traditional gasoline-powered vehicles would save these 4 million consumers approximately $4.2 billion a year at today’s average gasoline price of $3 per gallon when compared to 15 cents per kilowatt-hour of electricity for 14,400 miles driven annually. Its expected to consume 25kwh to move 100 miles. At 0.15 Kwh so that runs it to about 3.75 for 100 miles on electic only power. So just under 27 cents a mile on electric only mode. Doing the math, my Ranger gets 18mpg on average, with gas at 2.89 here locally, im around 16 cents a mile. Even account for my last fill up i got 351 miles on that tank, and it was around $53. doing the math its pretty consistant. Sooooo... gas is still cheaper. Here in CA. Problem is, at .05 per Kwh. thats $1.25 for 100 miles. or, 12.5 cents per mile. Sounds like its not such a hot deal after all. I DO like the car though. Feel free to citique my numbers. I might be missing something. Edited August 17, 2009 by Sixt9coug Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro-man Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 At 0.15 Kwh so that runs it to about 3.75 for 100 miles on electic only power. Translate that sentence for me so I can understand your calculation please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Translate that sentence for me so I can understand your calculation please. going off of 25Kwh to move 100 miles per GMs press release. .15 per Kwh would make that 3.75. Like i said, my numbers might be done wrong because it doesnt make sense to me. 0.15 cents X 25kwh = $3.75 cost in electricity to go 100 miles (if im right, im doubting myself tons right now) $3.75 / 100 miles = .375 cents a mile. (i see one mistake on my part already. i gotta stop doing math while watching tv at night) vs gas (my truck for example) $53 to fill tank / 351 miles on my last tank = .1509 cost per mile. Damn its been years since ive been in a math class. Thats what i get for getting into the paint field versus acadamia lol. At .05 per Kwh its better, but my truck gets only 18mpg on average. (25 x .05 - $1.05 electricity. Then divided by miles its 10.5cents per mile.) What am i doing wrong? i feel stupid right now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfeg Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Get some sleep. Just simple math error. going off of 25Kwh to move 100 miles per GMs press release. .15 per Kwh would make that 3.75. Like i said, my numbers might be done wrong because it doesnt make sense to me. 0.15 cents X 25kwh = $3.75 cost in electricity to go 100 miles (if im right, im doubting myself tons right now) $3.75 / 100 miles = .375 (should be $.0375, or 3.75 cents) a mile. (i see one mistake on my part already. i gotta stop doing math while watching tv at night) vs gas (my truck for example) $53 to fill tank / 351 miles on my last tank = .1509 cost per mile. Damn its been years since ive been in a math class. Thats what i get for getting into the paint field versus acadamia lol. At .05 per Kwh its better, but my truck gets only 18mpg on average. (25 x .05 - $1.05 electricity. Then divided by miles its 10.5cents per mile.) What am i doing wrong? i feel stupid right now lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixt9coug Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 Get some sleep. Just simple math error. lol.... D'oh!!!! thats what i get for not using a calculator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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