Fox News

[rainbownthdrk]

Uh....don't let facts influence your opinion (just keep listening to the lies on Fox News.)

 

The US rates pretty low

 

http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html

 

Myth: The U.S. has the best health care system in the world.

 

Fact: The U.S. has among the worst health statistics of all rich nations.

 

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-healthcare.htm

 

 

Oh yeah...Canada

 

far better than the US

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Canadian_and_American_health_care_systems

 

 

 

Once more where was Fox News with 'Fair and Balanced" coverage of these American demonstrators?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNiD0G8y9zA

 

Oh ...I guess it did not fit with the Republican talking points.

 

 

Check this out Aces: http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2009&month=04

[Die Wahrheit]

Check this out Aces: http://www.hillsdale.edu/news/imprimis/archive/issue.asp?year=2009&month=04

 

 

MUST READ!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031102523.html

[rainbownthdrk]

MUST READ!!!!!!!!

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031102523.html

 

 

I bid all liberals to soak up Big - Governments embrace and surrender all of your adult responsibilties to the whim of some obscure government panel. You and I and all Americans will regret to see our liberties slip away; we will live to see an America that we will not recognize. This will happen as big- brother Uncle Sam grants entitlements on the citizenry that we cannot pay for (Yes, just like Bush's,un-funded no less, prescription drug bill). We will "get over" any stigma we may have of letting the government make decisions for us. Like Mr.Steyn said: When given the choice between liberty and security, the West ( that includes America for all you libs out there) we choose, UNFORTUNATELY, security. And no, I'm not talking about wire taps! So soak up Uncle Sams embrace......but don't come crying to me when that embrace chokes the liberties you enjoy now right out of you. By the way, did any of you even read the Imprimus article?

[Die Wahrheit]

I bid all liberals to soak up Big - Governments embrace and surrender all of your adult responsibilties to the whim of some obscure government panel. You and I and all Americans will regret to see our liberties slip away; we will live to see an America that we will not recognize. This will happen as big- brother Uncle Sam grants entitlements on the citizenry that we cannot pay for (Yes, just like Bush's,un-funded no less, prescription drug bill). We will "get over" any stigma we may have of letting the government make decisions for us. Like Mr.Steyn said: When given the choice between liberty and security, the West ( that includes America for all you libs out there) we choose, UNFORTUNATELY, security. And no, I'm not talking about wire taps! So soak up Uncle Sams embrace......but don't come crying to me when that embrace chokes the liberties you enjoy now right out of you. By the way, did any of you even read the Imprimus article?

 

Im not that young where i dont remember the America your talking about. The greed and the killing and raping of young women and the slaughter of countless Native americans and the theft of their land. Enslaving of African Americans Yes this country has a past that is worth trying to forget. This country has done so much dirt that they are afraid of every individual that dont look like them.. Yes i remember the lies that were told by the leaders of this nation to take in order to make them richer. And whats really sad is they use the powerless to fight for them in order to accomplish thier goal. An individuals like yourself dont even realize your being used... So keep on spreading their lies , and you can have those phony liberites that you speak of because you wouldnt know what freedom was if it smacked you across the face..

[longball]

Im not that young where i dont remember the America your talking about. The greed and the killing and raping of young women and the slaughter of countless Native americans and the theft of their land. Enslaving of African Americans Yes this country has a past that is worth trying to forget. This country has done so much dirt that they are afraid of every individual that dont look like them.. Yes i remember the lies that were told by the leaders of this nation to take in order to make them richer. And whats really sad is they use the powerless to fight for them in order to accomplish thier goal. An individuals like yourself dont even realize your being used... So keep on spreading their lies , and you can have those phony liberites that you speak of because you wouldnt know what freedom was if it smacked you across the face..

 

WOW....How old a boy are you Die?....The INDIANS... Slavery....WOW.....Also I think you are confused...".Using the powerless" and you point to a conservitive....please....who is promised anything good by this president? Who is opposing these changes....think about it....without a drink this time....your all over it...but you have it backwards....the downtrodden and uninformed are being used to push this expansion of power thru....the same way this group got elected....sober up and stand on your own two feet....

[FiredMotorCompany]

 

I bid all liberals to soak up Big - Governments embrace and surrender all of your adult responsibilties to the whim of some obscure government panel. You and I and all Americans will regret to see our liberties slip away; we will live to see an America that we will not recognize. This will happen as big- brother Uncle Sam grants entitlements on the citizenry that we cannot pay for (Yes, just like Bush's,un-funded no less, prescription drug bill). We will "get over" any stigma we may have of letting the government make decisions for us. Like Mr.Steyn said: When given the choice between liberty and security, the West ( that includes America for all you libs out there) we choose, UNFORTUNATELY, security. And no, I'm not talking about wire taps! So soak up Uncle Sams embrace......but don't come crying to me when that embrace chokes the liberties you enjoy now right out of you. By the way, did any of you even read the Imprimus article?

 

 

"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

[rainbownthdrk]

Im not that young where i dont remember the America your talking about. The greed and the killing and raping of young women and the slaughter of countless Native americans and the theft of their land. Enslaving of African Americans Yes this country has a past that is worth trying to forget. This country has done so much dirt that they are afraid of every individual that dont look like them.. Yes i remember the lies that were told by the leaders of this nation to take in order to make them richer. And whats really sad is they use the powerless to fight for them in order to accomplish thier goal. An individuals like yourself dont even realize your being used... So keep on spreading their lies , and you can have those phony liberites that you speak of because you wouldnt know what freedom was if it smacked you across the face..

 

Obviously, you didn't read the Mark Steyn "Live Free or Die" article, or, worse still, you did, but could not comprehend it.

[Aces]

Obviously, you didn't read the Mark Steyn "Live Free or Die" article, or, worse still, you did, but could not comprehend it.

 

 

Uh...the topic here is Fox News......not crazy right wing opinions from other sources.

 

As posted earlier, this has more to do with the topic

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031102523_pf.html

[Trimdingman]

Im not that young where i dont remember the America your talking about. The greed and the killing and raping of young women and the slaughter of countless Native americans and the theft of their land. Enslaving of African Americans Yes this country has a past that is worth trying to forget. This country has done so much dirt that they are afraid of every individual that dont look like them.. Yes i remember the lies that were told by the leaders of this nation to take in order to make them richer. And whats really sad is they use the powerless to fight for them in order to accomplish thier goal. An individuals like yourself dont even realize your being used... So keep on spreading their lies , and you can have those phony liberites that you speak of because you wouldnt know what freedom was if it smacked you across the face..

 

These atrocities were brought here by European governments and militaries. Once they started the ball rolling, and animosities were established, there was a continuation. If certain European countries had the decency or intelligence to understand that just because you "discover" another civilization, doesn't give you the right to go in and conquer and occupy it. The Acadian farmers got along fine with the native population. England and France, in their greed for domination brought war down on the American people. Canada still has the queen of England as head of state. Rather than get rid of England, because of the attrocities committed against the Indian, and Francophone peoples, they offer handouts to these people as compensation for past wrongs. This is an insult. It just keeps them subservient and vilified by the taxpayers who have to pay for them. Most all evils in America can be traced back to colonial days.

Edited March 13, 2010 by Trimdingman

[rainbownthdrk]

Uh...the topic here is Fox News......not crazy right wing opinions from other sources.

 

As posted earlier, this has more to do with the topic

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/11/AR2010031102523_pf.html

 

I believe Mr. Steyn has a point in his article. Also, the reason why Fox News gets audiences now is that CBS, NBC, ABC on TV media and print media like The New York Times, and The Washington Post had a lock on media in the US for decades. At the moment, Fox News is in the lead, but this is all conservatives have........besides radio talk shows to get their message out......the libs basically have everything else. Some day their ratings will level out, but the glory days of Cronkite: "And That's The Way It Wasn't"..... are over!

[Trimdingman]

I believe Mr. Steyn has a point in his article. Also, the reason why Fox News gets audiences now is that CBS, NBC, ABC on TV media and print media like The New York Times, and The Washington Post had a lock on media in the US for decades. At the moment, Fox News is in the lead, but this is all conservatives have........besides radio talk shows to get their message out......the libs basically have everything else. Some day their ratings will level out, but the glory days of Cronkite: "And That's The Way It Wasn't"..... are over!

 

People are starting to wake up, and stop believing everything the government tells them. The past century saw depression and war. Many people praised the way the likes of FDR handled things. Now we are faced with a similar situation to that which was faced by our forefathers. Should we take the same road, or is there a better way? The "mainstream media" see nothing wrong with the way FDR handled the economic downturn precipitated by the 1929 stock market crash. Personally, I could not dream up a worse scenario than what transpired. We had a Great Depression, which led to the worst war imaginable. Tens of millions of people died, and many cities were laid waste. Modern thinking, such as we see presented on Fox News and others, is looking at alternative approaches. Nothing could possibly be as bad as the one tried in the past, and which we are in grave danger of repeating.

Edited March 14, 2010 by Trimdingman

[rn4]

People are starting to wake up, and stop believing everything the government tells them. The past century saw depression and war. Many people praised the way the likes of FDR handled things. Now we are faced with a similar situation to that which was faced by our forefathers. Should we take the same road, or is there a better way? The "mainstream media" see nothing wrong with the way FDR handled the economic downturn precipitated by the 1929 stock market crash. Personally, I could not dream up a worse scenario than what transpired. We had a Great Depression, which led to the worst war imaginable. Tens of millions of people died, and many cities were laid waste. Modern thinking, such as we see presented on Fox News and others, is looking at alternative approaches. Nothing could possibly be as bad as the one tried in the past, and which we are in grave danger of repeating.

 

 

Trim I keep reading your stuff and it's a good thing you are Canadian, because that explains why you are as crazy as a loon.

[Trimdingman]

Trim I keep reading your stuff and it's a good thing you are Canadian, because that explains why you are as crazy as a loon.

 

How much thought went into your comeback? I have been thinking on this issue for many years. Some of you may believe that Franklyn Roosevelt was a god. I am not so sure. There was a depression in 1920, which was handled much differently by then president Cyrus Harding. He kept the government out of it, and the depression ended quickly. The Roaring Twenties came and went, and Roosevelt and the "Progressive Era" began. The stock market crashed again in 1929, and Roosevelt became president in 1932. Many countries were experimenting with socialism. Roosevelt, and his socialist activist wife Eleanor were also big fans. We all know what happened with that. It led to the Great Depression and World War II. We ended up winning, but things could have easily gone the other way. The thing is that both the Depression and the war could have been avoided if the economy had been handled differently, like Cyrus Harding did, for example.

 

You have stated that all Canadians are as crazy as loons. That is the socialist coming out in you. You are programmed to re-coil at any threat to your religion. Think about your statement. Does it make any sense?

[longball]

How much thought went into your comeback? I have been thinking on this issue for many years. Some of you may believe that Franklyn Roosevelt was a god. I am not so sure. There was a depression in 1920, which was handled much differently by then president Cyrus Harding. He kept the government out of it, and the depression ended quickly. The Roaring Twenties came and went, and Roosevelt and the "Progressive Era" began. The stock market crashed again in 1929, and Roosevelt became president in 1932. Many countries were experimenting with socialism. Roosevelt, and his socialist activist wife Eleanor were also big fans. We all know what happened with that. It led to the Great Depression and World War II. We ended up winning, but things could have easily gone the other way. The thing is that both the Depression and the war could have been avoided if the economy had been handled differently, like Cyrus Harding did, for example.

 

You have stated that all Canadians are as crazy as loons. That is the socialist coming out in you. You are programmed to re-coil at any threat to your religion. Think about your statement. Does it make any sense?

 

Who was Cyrus Harding????? Our President was Warren G. Harding

[partsisparts]

People are starting to wake up, and stop believing everything the government tells them. The past century saw depression and war. Many people praised the way the likes of FDR handled things. Now we are faced with a similar situation to that which was faced by our forefathers. Should we take the same road, or is there a better way? The "mainstream media" see nothing wrong with the way FDR handled the economic downturn precipitated by the 1929 stock market crash. Personally, I could not dream up a worse scenario than what transpired. We had a Great Depression, which led to the worst war imaginable. Tens of millions of people died, and many cities were laid waste. Modern thinking, such as we see presented on Fox News and others, is looking at alternative approaches. Nothing could possibly be as bad as the one tried in the past, and which we are in grave danger of repeating.

The reason why the media has seen nothing wrong with the way FDR handled things is because he was right. You could not dream of a worse way. How? What would you have done? Are you an economist? The depression in the USA did not lead up to WW2 as a cause. The depression in Germany helped Hitler gain power. Germany was in a bad way because of WW1. The cause of WW2 was the Axis countries trying to take over the world.

 

Fox News is looking at alternative approaches? Other than the typical tax cuts for the rich (that don't work) what are they suggesting?

Edited March 15, 2010 by partsisparts

[jerrymaker]

at least fox will tell you that the dems have not read or don't know how much it (health care) will cost.

nancy said, "JUST PASS IT, then we will find out whats in it"

[Trimdingman]

The reason why the media has seen nothing wrong with the way FDR handled things is because he was right. You could not dream of a worse way. How? What would you have done? Are you an economist? The depression in the USA did not lead up to WW2 as a cause. The depression in Germany helped Hitler gain power. Germany was in a bad way because of WW1. The cause of WW2 was the Axis countries trying to take over the world.

 

Fox News is looking at alternative approaches? Other than the typical tax cuts for the rich (that don't work) what are they suggesting?

 

The depression led to unscrupulous men becoming socialist dictators, promising to make things better for the people, when their real agenda was power. Sound familiar? The depression did not have to be as long and deep as it was. Government spending caused that. The spending could not be sustained, so they (all socialist countries) had to look outside their borders. There was protectionism. The Nazis blamed the Jews instead of their own socialist policies. The US was also guilty of protectionism at that time. Finally, this led to WWII.

 

The reason that we are in a similar situation to-day is because of government greed. The government is taking too much out of the economy to fund wasteful socialist programs. Taxing the "rich" taxes us all. The "rich" own the corporations. Any money they pay to the government is passed along to us, the consumer,s in higher prices. Probably 1/2 of the price of everything we buy is induced by the government in one way or another. A drastic reduction in government would increase our buying power by over 100%. This would eliminate unemployment, and the need for over 90% of government and taxation. The government would never willingly give up that much of it's power. We, the people have to force it to, by electing people to office who see this.

[longball]

Come on Trim....You aren't a US citizen....you think we had a President named Cyrus Harding .... and you insist on telling us what is wrong with OUR country...please give us a break.... why not express your opinions on something that effects you, and you understand....just my opinion

[partsisparts]

The depression led to unscrupulous men becoming socialist dictators, promising to make things better for the people, when their real agenda was power. Sound familiar? The depression did not have to be as long and deep as it was. Government spending caused that. The spending could not be sustained, so they (all socialist countries) had to look outside their borders. There was protectionism. The Nazis blamed the Jews instead of their own socialist policies. The US was also guilty of protectionism at that time. Finally, this led to WWII.

 

The reason that we are in a similar situation to-day is because of government greed. The government is taking too much out of the economy to fund wasteful socialist programs. Taxing the "rich" taxes us all. The "rich" own the corporations. Any money they pay to the government is passed along to us, the consumer,s in higher prices. Probably 1/2 of the price of everything we buy is induced by the government in one way or another. A drastic reduction in government would increase our buying power by over 100%. This would eliminate unemployment, and the need for over 90% of government and taxation. The government would never willingly give up that much of it's power. We, the people have to force it to, by electing people to office who see this.

You cannot compare Obama to the dictators preceeding WW2. The president has limited powers. This socialism thing the conservatives have going is nothing but a scare tactic for the uninformed. The republicans offer no new ideas, they just tell you what to be scared of.

Probably 1/2 the price of everything we buy is induced by the govt? Where did you come up with such a statement! How would a drastic reduction in govt eliminate unemployment? Wouldn't you be eliminating thousands of govt jobs? Reduce govt by 90% what would you cut?

You seem to be going back to tax breaks for the rich. It is a good idea but it relies on people to do the right thing and pass the money down the line.(spreading the wealth?) The problem is the rich don't do the right thing. The policies you think are so wonderful have been used throughout the Bush presidency. The exact policies that put us into this mess.

[Aces]

The Beck Factor at Fox: Staffers say comments taint their work

 

 

More than 200 companies have joined a boycott of Beck's program, making it difficult for Fox to sell ads. The time has instead been sold to smaller firms offering such products as Kaopectate, Carbonite, 1-800-PetMeds and Goldline International. A handful of advertisers, such as Apple, have abandoned Fox altogether. Network executives say they believe they could charge higher rates if the host were more widely acceptable to advertisers.....

 

But Beck has caused such anguish at Fox that some of its journalists celebrated the failure of last week's interview with embattled ex-congressman Eric Massa, which Beck pronounced a waste of time......

 

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/14/AR2010031402312_pf.html

 

 

Even the propaganda network has trouble with this liar.

[rn4]

The depression led to unscrupulous men becoming socialist dictators, promising to make things better for the people, when their real agenda was power. Sound familiar? The depression did not have to be as long and deep as it was. Government spending caused that. The spending could not be sustained, so they (all socialist countries) had to look outside their borders. There was protectionism. The Nazis blamed the Jews instead of their own socialist policies. The US was also guilty of protectionism at that time. Finally, this led to WWII.

 

The reason that we are in a similar situation to-day is because of government greed. The government is taking too much out of the economy to fund wasteful socialist programs. Taxing the "rich" taxes us all. The "rich" own the corporations. Any money they pay to the government is passed along to us, the consumer,s in higher prices. Probably 1/2 of the price of everything we buy is induced by the government in one way or another. A drastic reduction in government would increase our buying power by over 100%. This would eliminate unemployment, and the need for over 90% of government and taxation. The government would never willingly give up that much of it's power. We, the people have to force it to, by electing people to office who see this.

 

 

Here you go Trim some of the root causes of WW2

 

http://www.2worldwar2.com/causes-of-world-war-2.htm

[FiredMotorCompany]

It's not just Fox News...

 

Barack Obama threatens to withdraw support from wavering Democrats

 

It's from the UK, no less. Who'd thought they would be part of the "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy" crowd.

[Trimdingman]

You cannot compare Obama to the dictators preceeding WW2. The president has limited powers. This socialism thing the conservatives have going is nothing but a scare tactic for the uninformed. The republicans offer no new ideas, they just tell you what to be scared of.

Probably 1/2 the price of everything we buy is induced by the govt? Where did you come up with such a statement! How would a drastic reduction in govt eliminate unemployment? Wouldn't you be eliminating thousands of govt jobs? Reduce govt by 90% what would you cut?

You seem to be going back to tax breaks for the rich. It is a good idea but it relies on people to do the right thing and pass the money down the line.(spreading the wealth?) The problem is the rich don't do the right thing. The policies you think are so wonderful have been used throughout the Bush presidency. The exact policies that put us into this mess.

 

The president has limited powers, yes. The machine of government has near Totalitarian power now.

 

If you take the price of any product, and subtract the cost to the manufacturer of complying with government regulations and taxation, it would be 50%, easy. Then add to your take-home pay the amount of tax you pay to fund the beaurocracy to support this, plus the unemployment benefits to people who do not have jobs because of this. You are losing over 50% of your buying power.

 

Government jobs are non-productive. There is no willing demand for what they produce. Free up capital to the individual, and he will spend it on things he likes, and create real jobs producing real products, which, by the way, would also be exportable. Manufacturers would be free to come up with better and better products, and the economy would thrive. Instead of 10% and rising unemployment, there would be a shortage of labor. This would force wages even higher. At this point, the government's mouth would be watering for its share. Just say no, and reduce government. Social assistance, government pensions, and government health care would no longer be needed, so they could be scrapped. Government education (brainwashing) should also be scrapped. Anything the government does, the private sector can do twice as good. The Constitution was good enough for people 230 years ago, when they did not have the modern technology we have to-day. It is surely good enough for us. If they didn't need all of these government programs, we surely don't need them now.

 

Because of government meddling in private business, manufacturers are being driven to places like China. Now they are on the verge of replacing the US as the superpower. Pressure is building for a World War to prevent this. The US is essentually bankrupt. If the dollar was sold off by everybody holding them, it's value would go to zero. That is what the world wants to do; sell their American dollars, but they are stuck with them. Everybody is between the proverbial rock and a hard place. It would not take much to trigger a world-wide financial catastrophe. The root cause of this is too much government.

Edited March 17, 2010 by Trimdingman

[jerrymaker]

The Beck Factor at Fox: Staffers say comments taint their work

 

 

More than 200 companies have joined a boycott of Beck's program, making it difficult for Fox to sell ads. The time has instead been sold to smaller firms offering such products as Kaopectate, Carbonite, 1-800-PetMeds and Goldline International. A handful of advertisers, such as Apple, have abandoned Fox altogether. Network executives say they believe they could charge higher rates if the host were more widely acceptable to advertisers.....

 

But Beck has caused such anguish at Fox that some of its journalists celebrated the failure of last week's interview with embattled ex-congressman Eric Massa, which Beck pronounced a waste of time......

 

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/14/AR2010031402312_pf.html

 

 

 

 

Even the propaganda network has trouble with this liar.

 

 

could you check out those 200 companies, how many of them make products overseas (china) and how many gave $$$ to the dems and obama? just for the hell of it and report that info back.

Edited March 17, 2010 by jerrymaker

[Trimdingman]

Come on Trim....You aren't a US citizen....you think we had a President named Cyrus Harding .... and you insist on telling us what is wrong with OUR country...please give us a break.... why not express your opinions on something that effects you, and you understand....just my opinion

 

 

Sorry. His first name was Warren. Why is it that such a successful man is so obscure to-day? His methods were politically incorrect; that's why. He stopped a depression dead in it's tracks using "right wing" strategies that worked. Roosevelt is wrongly credited with ending the Great Depression. First off, he probably turned a normal small depression into the Great one, and secondly; it was the kind of thinking world-wide of trying to spend your way out of a depression, instead of being thrifty and saving, which led to protectionism and the Second World War. How could the scenario have been any worse? If a Republican had been at the helm during this catastrophe, he would be vilified to-day in the media. It would have been worse had we lost the war, but that is beside the point. We won the war because Hitler made some boneheaded moves, and we got the bomb before he did. It could have easily gone the other way. The whole Depression/War mess could have been avoided by using proven sensible economics, as was done by Harding, quickly ending the 1920 downturn.

 

There is nothing wrong with America that is not also wrong with Europe and Canada. Whatever the US does, greatly affects Canada. If Obama decides to go protectionist "buy American", we are screwed. We don't have the wherewithall to start a war over it, but maybe some larger countries could form an alliance and give it a go. I am fine with a black man in the White House. I don't want to see a Chinese there (Chinese-Americans excepted).

Edited March 17, 2010 by Trimdingman