KC BOB Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 just how it is you may be right no plant building trucks has matched kcap and never will f-150 has been there since 1961 for a good reason "quality" move the f-150 out of kcap and i will not buy another one and i may work for ford and not drive a ford quality products are not built in michigan or ohio top plants in north america are in missouri and kansas kcap and fairfax in 2011 i will vote for the company fuck you assholes playing into this whipsaw bullshit UAW Detroit is a suck city it sucks from the tax payers and returns nothing other than islamic nuts with bad underwear Amen Flip---If KCAP is closed I've bought my last Ford of any sort....In the 32 years I worked there the stupidest thing I was witness to was that segregated parking horseshit depending on what you drove....and to think the UAW came up with that while we had a kid in Iraq at the height of hostilities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 I am curious as to what the actual JPH is at DTP. I got told KCAP truck side is going to 70 jph. I was just wondering if DTP was too. 65-67 jph is what we run off the end every hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikem12 Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 DTP don't need a line speed increase we build what they want at the current line rate!!! Ok, that answered everything, last I heard DTP was at 45 JPH because they couldn't meet quality standards and having some 1400 jobs in the parking lot waiting to be repaired. I guess I heard wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted February 12, 2010 Share Posted February 12, 2010 You just told everyone something about DTP Lets see here DTP gets all the top quality parts Stamping,Frames,Transmissions etc This is Funny Quality Standards are the same on all parts shipped no matter where they go Fact is KCAP builds a better quality truck than DTP They want KCAP gone because KCAP sets the standard for assembly plants in North America You know anything about sheetmetal? Lets take hoods for example. There is not a day that goes by that someone with a grinder and sander at DSP has hacked up several racks full of hoods, they get set off again for us to try and repair again. There scraped before we can use them.You say quality standards are the same, your nieve. These are all the hoods DTP rejected, you think Ford will write these off, no way. They send them to us. We save there ass again. There not going to recycle them. We build the same product, is one better than the other? All I know is I have to feed my family as everyone else does, not one sole in any North American plant is better than the other, we all bust our asses to get it done. A plant closer affects everyone locally and nationwide. The job may be safe but the worker may not, no matter where you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) 65-67 jph is what we run off the end every hour BULLSHIT We know how many jobs per hour you build average is 45 jobs per hour line speed at 65 per hour They want to raise kcap to 65 jobs per hour now at 63 dtp is mass relief kcap has tag relief kcap averages 58 jobs per hour and the funny thing is we build one hell of alot of high end models and work overtime because dtp can't build what the company wants with 300 less heads per shift dtp is a show plant thats why the company moved trucks built at kcap to dtp to keep there lot full while people are touring during the auto shows kcap launch team is at dtp helping get the regular cab going last word from them was this plant is a mess dtp you will survive and when you get off your high horse and start listening to people that know how to build high quality trucks like kcap and ktp i still won't buy one thanks for trying to f****k us all Edited February 13, 2010 by flipuaw164 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 You know anything about sheetmetal? Lets take hoods for example. There is not a day that goes by that someone with a grinder and sander at DSP has hacked up several racks full of hoods, they get set off again for us to try and repair again. There scraped before we can use them.You say quality standards are the same, your nieve. These are all the hoods DTP rejected, you think Ford will write these off, no way. They send them to us. We save there ass again. There not going to recycle them. We build the same product, is one better than the other? All I know is I have to feed my family as everyone else does, not one sole in any North American plant is better than the other, we all bust our asses to get it done. A plant closer affects everyone locally and nationwide. The job may be safe but the worker may not, no matter where you are. kcap rejects shit everyday i know what your talking about like many parts that are within quality standards you need someone smart enough at the plant to use them and maintain high quality :shades: so please don't make dtp look any worse than they are.... stop pretending to work at kcap talk to someone honest at any assembly plant and they will tell you that the same thing goes on all the time point is if dtp needs perfect parts to build a truck we all know that perfect is impossible i'm not buying anything built there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allen proctor Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 You send your trucks up here to DTP so we can use them as test crash vehicles since DTP trucks are too good to crash up..... i guess your the first in line to be the crash test dummy too,face it man,you come on here every day for who knows how long,talking shit you can not back up with any form of sense,you need to get away from what ever desk your at 24 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4rd4life Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 kcap rejects shit everyday i know what your talking about like many parts that are within quality standards you need someone smart enough at the plant to use them and maintain high quality :shades: so please don't make dtp look any worse than they are.... stop pretending to work at kcap talk to someone honest at any assembly plant and they will tell you that the same thing goes on all the time point is if dtp needs perfect parts to build a truck we all know that perfect is impossible i'm not buying anything built there Flip, Kalu does work at KC on the truck side, he use to be a door fitter on 4 line in trim, but since they reduced the number of fitters he was moved back over to body and is now on hood deck. Don't know which dept. you work in but you could ask just about anyone down the chassis line maybe a few on 3 line nearly anyone one 4 line and a few out in 86 they could verify it since his screen name is not fictitious, it is actually the first 4 letters of his last name in which everyone calls him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 (edited) BULLSHIT We know how many jobs per hour you build average is 45 jobs per hour line speed at 65 per hour They want to raise kcap to 65 jobs per hour now at 63 dtp is mass relief kcap has tag relief kcap averages 58 jobs per hour and the funny thing is we build one hell of alot of high end models and work overtime because dtp can't build what the company wants with 300 less heads per shift dtp is a show plant thats why the company moved trucks built at kcap to dtp to keep there lot full while people are touring during the auto shows kcap launch team is at dtp helping get the regular cab going last word from them was this plant is a mess dtp you will survive and when you get off your high horse and start listening to people that know how to build high quality trucks like kcap and ktp i still won't buy one thanks for trying to f****k us all WHATEVER....I work on the end of chassis line 7! I drive them off everyday, all day! Call me a liar.....FUCK YOU! Between 65-67 units come off the end every hour! Sure we may bump or run a gap from time to time but on average were right on target! Funny thing I've not seen anyone from the kcap launch team???????? WEIRD! As far as building "QUALITY" trucks, I'm from NAP and f150's is all I've built for 16 yrs so don't try blowin smoke up my ass pal! Quailty vs $$$$$.............$$$$$$ will win everytime! Edited February 13, 2010 by Bigcountry 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messy marvin lang Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 WHATEVER....I work on the end of chassis line 7! I drive them off everyday, all day! Call me a liar.....FUCK YOU! Between 65-67 units come off the end every hour! Sure we may bump or run a gap from time to time but on average were right on target! Funny thing I've not seen anyone from the kcap launch team???????? WEIRD! As far as building "QUALITY" trucks, I'm from NAP and f150's is all I've built for 16 yrs so don't try blowin smoke up my ass pal! Quailty vs $$$$$.............$$$$$$ will win everytime! We build 65 an hour here at dtp...you guys a Kc have all these little myths about Dtp... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANTASTICFORD Posted February 13, 2010 Share Posted February 13, 2010 WHATEVER....I work on the end of chassis line 7! I drive them off everyday, all day! Call me a liar.....FUCK YOU! Between 65-67 units come off the end every hour! Sure we may bump or run a gap from time to time but on average were right on target! Funny thing I've not seen anyone from the kcap launch team???????? WEIRD! As far as building "QUALITY" trucks, I'm from NAP and f150's is all I've built for 16 yrs so don't try blowin smoke up my ass pal! Quailty vs $$$$$.............$$$$$$ will win everytime! BINGO $$$$$$ only! Ford doesn't care who's the best, they play us against one another and you guys fall right into their hands. We call ourselves brothers and sisters, what a Joke! I sure both plants are doing the best job that management allows us to do! No matter what happens, I hope all of us are winners at the end of the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted February 15, 2010 Share Posted February 15, 2010 Flip, Kalu does work at KC on the truck side, he use to be a door fitter on 4 line in trim, but since they reduced the number of fitters he was moved back over to body and is now on hood deck. Don't know which dept. you work in but you could ask just about anyone down the chassis line maybe a few on 3 line nearly anyone one 4 line and a few out in 86 they could verify it since his screen name is not fictitious, it is actually the first 4 letters of his last name in which everyone calls him. Thanks for the clarification 4rd4life. :hyper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 WHATEVER....I work on the end of chassis line 7! I drive them off everyday, all day! Call me a liar.....FUCK YOU! Between 65-67 units come off the end every hour! Sure we may bump or run a gap from time to time but on average were right on target! Funny thing I've not seen anyone from the kcap launch team???????? WEIRD! As far as building "QUALITY" trucks, I'm from NAP and f150's is all I've built for 16 yrs so don't try blowin smoke up my ass pal! Quailty vs $$$$$.............$$$$$$ will win everytime! I'm calling you a liar because I know your line speeds any moron with access to a company computer knows what is being built there So DTP get off your high horse and get real build quality instead of quanity and launch team members from KCAP are there trying to help get the regular cab going and I bought 3 trucks built in NAP and had no problems thank you NAP was closed do to its location sad but true I will not buy a truck built in a show plant lines run yeah and quality is poor So DTP go hump someone elses leg saying your the best when your not even playing in the same league "rookies" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 (edited) Thanks for the clarification 4rd4life. :hyper: wrong we have never had or do we now have door fitters in trim thats done in chassis only fitter we had in trim was tailgate fit that job has been gone since they put the striker machine in a couple of years ago Edited February 16, 2010 by flipuaw164 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4rd4life Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 wrong we have never had or do we now have door fitters in trim thats done in chassis only fitter we had in trim was tailgate fit that job has been gone since they put the striker machine in a couple of years ago Filp we have had door fitters on 4 line in trim since PN96, I know this because I use to be their relief man, I had 2 door fitters on the end of 4 line, ( until Tom Laneve eliminated them about 6 months ago) 2 on chassis by battery install, 1 hood and 1 tailgate fitter on the end of chassis, and 1 fit repair in dept. 86. until I took another job. As far as the tailgate fitter, Marvin hasn't been on the box line in trim since the launch of the 04. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted February 17, 2010 Share Posted February 17, 2010 I'm calling you a liar because I know your line speeds any moron with access to a company computer knows what is being built there So DTP get off your high horse and get real build quality instead of quanity and launch team members from KCAP are there trying to help get the regular cab going and I bought 3 trucks built in NAP and had no problems thank you NAP was closed do to its location sad but true I will not buy a truck built in a show plant lines run yeah and quality is poor ter So DTP go hump someone elses leg saying your the best when your not even playing in the same league "rookies" You are talking out your ass! If you know what our line speed is......then you know its 61 (NOT 45) units an hour....right, right! So stop tryin to stir up shit! High horse???????? From what I hear "your" launch team couldn't pull a greased string out of a hogs ass! Doesn't matter what "league" yer playin' in if the game is fixed! Don't feel bad I'm still bitter myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 You are talking out your ass! If you know what our line speed is......then you know its 61 (NOT 45) units an hour....right, right! So stop tryin to stir up shit! High horse???????? From what I hear "your" launch team couldn't pull a greased string out of a hogs ass! Doesn't matter what "league" yer playin' in if the game is fixed! Don't feel bad I'm still bitter myself! naw i'm going to stir it because everyone seems to hate kcap ? why ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipuaw164 Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 Filp we have had door fitters on 4 line in trim since PN96, I know this because I use to be their relief man, I had 2 door fitters on the end of 4 line, ( until Tom Laneve eliminated them about 6 months ago) 2 on chassis by battery install, 1 hood and 1 tailgate fitter on the end of chassis, and 1 fit repair in dept. 86. until I took another job. As far as the tailgate fitter, Marvin hasn't been on the box line in trim since the launch of the 04. i hired in on the box line in 1994 and was there until 2006 don't remember anyone named marvin on tailgate fit went to ho lo i do know the trim shop well and there was know fitters at the end of line 4 if inspection/repair was fitting i sure hate it because all i ever seen them old fucks do was sit and bitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted February 18, 2010 Share Posted February 18, 2010 naw i'm going to stir it because everyone seems to hate kcap ? why ? LOL, dude you crack me up! Who hates kcap? Hell, I love Kcap....Never been there but maybe one day I'll buzz through that state! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 i hired in on the box line in 1994 and was there until 2006 don't remember anyone named marvin on tailgate fit went to ho lo i do know the trim shop well and there was know fitters at the end of line 4 if inspection/repair was fitting i sure hate it because all i ever seen them old fucks do was sit and bitch Marvin still on tailgate fit right at end on chassis, hood fitter there also, name is Jammer. Johnson on LH door fit chassis, Attigliato on RH door fit chassis. 4 line fitters left 7 months ago, reduction . Maybe your memory is gone, sounds long term, may want to get it checked out. All these guys except Jammer, (came from SLAP) been there several years. Sure you work at KCAP? Damn this is really bothering you, 4rd4life set it straight, you still don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4rd4life Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 i hired in on the box line in 1994 and was there until 2006 don't remember anyone named marvin on tailgate fit went to ho lo i do know the trim shop well and there was know fitters at the end of line 4 if inspection/repair was fitting i sure hate it because all i ever seen them old fucks do was sit and bitch If your on a hi-lo ask your committeeman about door fitters on 4 line when he was driving and would get loaned out to trim he would stop by and see me if I was relieving the guys over there, after all we go way back I have known him for 41 years and the funny thing is thats how old he is also. LOL, dude you crack me up! Who hates kcap? Hell, I love Kcap....Never been there but maybe one day I'll buzz through that state! Bigcountry, if your ever in the area give me a holler I'm sure we could hook you up with a grand tour of KCAP, and I'm sure there will be some faces you'll recognize there from NAP and maybe a few you don't want to see but it's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalu Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 If your on a hi-lo ask your committeeman about door fitters on 4 line when he was driving and would get loaned out to trim he would stop by and see me if I was relieving the guys over there, after all we go way back I have known him for 41 years and the funny thing is thats how old he is also. 4rd4life, this guy is dense. :reading: Bigcountry, if your ever in the area give me a holler I'm sure we could hook you up with a grand tour of KCAP, and I'm sure there will be some faces you'll recognize there from NAP and maybe a few you don't want to see but it's all good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigcountry Posted February 19, 2010 Share Posted February 19, 2010 If your on a hi-lo ask your committeeman about door fitters on 4 line when he was driving and would get loaned out to trim he would stop by and see me if I was relieving the guys over there, after all we go way back I have known him for 41 years and the funny thing is thats how old he is also. Bigcountry, if your ever in the area give me a holler I'm sure we could hook you up with a grand tour of KCAP, and I'm sure there will be some faces you'll recognize there from NAP and maybe a few you don't want to see but it's all good. 10-4, It might be this summer...thinkin about road trippin' out to Montana! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtpworker1993 Posted February 20, 2010 Share Posted February 20, 2010 DTP builds nothing but high Quality trucks.....When the NAP people got to DTP we all showed them the correct way to build a F-150......Now we are all one big happy family who churns out The Best FORD F-150 Trucks!!!!! KCAP you guys could learn a thing or two if you would let us DTP employees come out to your plant and show you how to really build a truck!!! DTP Takes Pride in Every Truck Built!!!! General how bout you have a nice big cup of " Shut The F__k Up" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CourtJester Posted February 22, 2010 Share Posted February 22, 2010 Here's the deal- aren't you all sick of the fighting between the plants? All I see here is "DTP won't ever close because we are the chosen ones." Bull crap- if Ford sees fit, they will close DTP. KCAP, LAP and whoever they can to save a buck. No one is safe. My uncle works at the glass house in Detroit and he said, "if DTP has the best plant with the best equipment, let's bring the veteran workers from KCAP." In other words, he hopes to keep DTP open with KCAP workforce. That is a screwed up deal and NO ONE WINS. Move forward people and stop the bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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