Arnie declared California a state of emergency over the state's finances

[Ford Jellymoulds]

CNBC...By Jim Christie SAN FRANCISCO, July 28 (Reuters) - California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency over the state's finances on Wednesday, raising pressure on lawmakers to negotiate a state budget that is more than a month overdue and will need to close a $19 billion shortfall. The deficit is 22 percent of the $85 billion general fund budget the governor signed last July for the fiscal year that ended in June, highlighting how the steep drop in California's revenue due to recession, the housing slump, financial market turmoil and high unemployment have slashed its all-important personal income tax collection. In the declaration, Schwarzenegger ordered three days off without pay per month beginning in August for tens of thousands of state employees to preserve the state's cash to pay its debt, and for essential services. California's budget is five weeks overdue, joining New York among big states with spending plans yet to be approved, and Schwarzenegger and top lawmakers are at an impasse over how to balance the state's books. Analysts say it could be several more weeks before the Republican governor and leaders of the Democrat-led legislature reach an agreement, a delay that threatens to lower the state's already weak credit rating, now hovering just a few notches above "junk" status. "Without a budget in place that addresses our $19 billion budget deficit, every day of delay brings California closer to a fiscal meltdown," Schwarzenegger said in a statement.

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[BlackHorse]

What a shock, California and New York are both heavily liberal states and they are both flat broke. This is what happens when "progressives" run the show ladies and gentlemen. Meanwhile Texas is doing just fine, imagine that.

[Cocheese]

I was just going to echo that sediment BlackHorse.

 

For some reason I don't see Aces, partsisparts or Die making an appearance on this thread

[mustang2]

What a shock, California and New York are both heavily liberal states and they are both flat broke. This is what happens when "progressives" run the show ladies and gentlemen. Meanwhile Texas is doing just fine, imagine that.

Thanks for 8 years of Bush II. Richards had him pegged. The country should have listened to her.

[BlackHorse]

Thanks for 8 years of Bush II. Richards had him pegged. The country should have listened to her.

 

Whatever. W didn't have anything to do with California's economic failure. It's all on the libs that run that state.

[jpd80]

Big Arnie has been in power for almost seven years, maybe the buck (s) stop with him.

[mikem12]

Big Arnie has been in power for almost seven years, maybe the buck (s) stop with him.

 

Arnie doesn't propose the budget in CA, just like the Prez dosen't.

 

Hey maybe they can mortage CA to China like this admin has.

[BlackHorse]

Big Arnie has been in power for almost seven years, maybe the buck (s) stop with him.

 

Arnie ran on and got elected because he proposed balancing the state budget. The problem was that once elected he had to get a 2/3rds majority of the legislators to back a balanced budget proposal and the numerous libs and unions in the state blocked every effort to make it happen. The only thing the libs in California didn't block was the runaway deficit spending.

Edited July 29, 2010 by BlackHorse

[NLPRacing]

What a shock, California and New York are both heavily liberal states and they are both flat broke. This is what happens when "progressives" run the show ladies and gentlemen. Meanwhile Texas is doing just fine, imagine that.

 

How's Texas doing? Not as good as you think...

 

Star-Telegram Link: Texas budget shortfall widens to $18 billion

 

The so called "conservatives" in Texas like to spend money too. Rick Perry has done a lot of damage to this state since W left and it looks like we're going to give him 4 more years to do even more damage.

[BlackHorse]

How's Texas doing? Not as good as you think...

 

Star-Telegram Link: Texas budget shortfall widens to $18 billion

 

The so called "conservatives" in Texas like to spend money too. Rick Perry has done a lot of damage to this state since W left and it looks like we're going to give him 4 more years to do even more damage.

 

 

It doesn't matter because they aren't on the verge of going bankrupt like California and New York and since Texas isn't run by a bunch of liberals they will actually do something about the budget problems and take care of it rather than just spend themselves into oblivion.

[suv_guy_19]

California can't do anything about buget problems because of their initiative system.

[Ford Jellymoulds]

How are those poor pigs that have got caught red handed with their snouts in the trough Bell going to be cope with a pay cut ?

 

Bell city officials awarded themselves a $1800 to $100,000 pay rise almost overnight, now folk want them to take a pay cut, how are the poor little piggie wiggies going to cope?

 

Whats the problem these days in California can't they find some illegals that will run Bell for $500 and save the taxpayer some money, l bet they have used illegals to undermine keep everybody else's pay down low why can't illegals do the Bell officals job when they are capable of doing just about everybody else's jobs to keep pay low, what's good for the goose is good for the gander?

Edited July 30, 2010 by Ford Jellymoulds

[jpd80]

Arnie ran on and got elected because he proposed balancing the state budget. The problem was that once elected he had to get a 2/3rds majority of the legislators to back a balanced budget proposal and the numerous libs and unions in the state blocked every effort to make it happen. The only thing the libs in California didn't block was the runaway deficit spending.

 

So the governor is elected independently of other members of the government..

That must make for a complete farce when trying to run a balanced budget.

 

No wonder California is in a mess, strong medicine needed to fix that black hole....

[JW]

Runaway, irresponsible spending can (and does) occur regardless of party affiliation. Schwarzenegger ran on a platform of undoing the things that got Gray Davis recalled. Now at the end of his term, it's hard to tell a difference between the two.

 

When Jack Nicholson said in "Batman", "This town needs an enema," I'm pretty sure he was referring to both Sacramento and D.C.

[EdselBryantFord]

awww the republicanator cant balance the check book

[Cocheese]

awww the republicanator cant balance the check book

 

You should probably gain a better understanding of how government work.

 

Maybe if the lefties of this world had a clue about the government, they'd stop pushing for more of it

[BlackHorse]

You should probably gain a better understanding of how government work.

 

Maybe if the lefties of this world had a clue about the government, they'd stop pushing for more of it

 

 

Maybe. I think most of them truly believe that the way to a better society is through government involvement in every aspect of our lives no matter how small. Ironically that is excactly the way to an oppressive and tyranical society. The very thing that libs are trying so hard to avoid is exactly the thing they are running towards with great enthusiasm. That is how you end up with a government so overly invovled in the daily lives of citizens that they pass laws requiring childern in day care to have their teeth brushed every four hours. That's an actual law in Massachusetts. Thats how you end with law makers trying to ban toys in happy meals because it supposedly encourages children to buy unhealthy food. Nevermind that happy meals aren't bought by the actual kids but rather by the parents who made that decision for them. But remember that the mindset of your average liberal politician is that the masses (thats all of us people) are to stupid to think for themselves so they feel compelled to come up with ever more intrusive laws to requlate our behavior under the idea that it's "for our own good".

 

California is and has been a liberally run state for decades now, and it is an unabashed failure because of it. The governor doesn't control the purse strings Edsel, the legislators do. The governor can only try to work with them to fix their problems. Unfortunately the liberals in that state are not interested in balancing the budget or actually fixing the problems and the end result is that the state is now bankrupt. Own it libs. This is the end result of unchecked liberal policies.

 

 

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupididy may sometimes be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." --- C. S. Lewis

[suv_guy_19]

You should probably gain a better understanding of how government work.

 

Tell me, oh wise scholar, how exactly does government work?

[suv_guy_19]

Maybe. I think most of them truly believe that the way to a better society is through government involvement in every aspect of our lives no matter how small.

 

Oh, yes, we can't wait to get into your bedroom...no wait, that's conservatives.

 

Ironically that is excactly the way to an oppressive and tyranical society. The very thing that libs are trying so hard to avoid is exactly the thing they are running towards with great enthusiasm.

 

Oh really?

 

That is how you end up with a government so overly invovled in the daily lives of citizens that they pass laws requiring childern in day care to have their teeth brushed every four hours.

 

And? How exactly does that hurt you? You do realize that you're supposed to brush your teeth after every meal, right?

 

That's an actual law in Massachusetts. Thats how you end with law makers trying to ban toys in happy meals because it supposedly encourages children to buy unhealthy food. Nevermind that happy meals aren't bought by the actual kids but rather by the parents who made that decision for them.

 

Because kids have no say in what they eat.

 

California is and has been a liberally run state for decades now, and it is an unabashed failure because of it.

 

That is why is has the largest economy and population in the United States.

 

This is the end result of unchecked liberal policies.

 

No, it isn't. This is the result of a terrible system under which citizens get a direct vote on far too many things that they don't understand.

[JW]

This is the result of a terrible system under which citizens get a direct vote on far too many things that they don't understand.

 

At least you got this part right. Our ballots are so overloaded with initiatives and bond measures that it practically takes a degree in political science to figure it all out. As an unwavering rule, I vote against bond measures, and rarely vote for any of the other crap.

 

And, this conservative has NO interest in what's going on in your bedroom, but gets furious when liberals see fit to teach what goes on in everyone else's bedrooms in the schools...

[JW]

Oh, and BlackHorse's unchecked liberal policies (Medi-Cal, welfare fraud, willfully uncontrolled illegal immigration, unfettered sanctuary cities run by mayors who chase tail all day long, city leaders who overcharge on property taxes while they collect huge salaries at their residents' expense, and politicians that never worked a real job in their lives and have no respect for other people's money) are a HUGE part of the shit sandwich that is California.

[Cocheese]

Tell me, oh wise scholar, how exactly does government work?

 

I'll let Blackhorse answer this

 

California is and has been a liberally run state for decades now, and it is an unabashed failure because of it. The governor doesn't control the purse strings Edsel, the legislators do. The governor can only try to work with them to fix their problems. Unfortunately the liberals in that state are not interested in balancing the budget or actually fixing the problems and the end result is that the state is now bankrupt. Own it libs. This is the end result of unchecked liberal policies.

 

There is a belief amongst most of the left minded people out there that the Governor / President makes all the decisions, passes all the Bill / Laws, decides what to spend money on and how much.

 

From the tone of Edsel's comment, I took it to believe that he thought an unbalanced budget was the fault of a Republican Governor. When the reality is, the Governor of every State has their hands tied.

 

If Arnie doesn't have the support of the legislators, then he is nothing more than a lame duck

[Cocheese]

And? How exactly does that hurt you? You do realize that you're supposed to brush your teeth after every meal, right?

 

Yes, but I don't want Government wasting time passing laws telling someone they have to do this

 

Because kids have no say in what they eat.

 

Clearly you are not a parent (neither am I).

 

If my mom let me decide what I was going to eat, I would have never ate a vegetable, and every meal would have included french fries.

 

You are their parent, not their best friend.

 

That is why is has the largest economy and population in the United States.

 

Yes, because location, geography and weather had nothing to do with that.

 

No, it isn't. This is the result of a terrible system under which citizens get a direct vote on far too many things that they don't understand.

 

Exactly, and the less you educate the voters, the more likely they will vote for the left

[BlackHorse]

 

 

And, this conservative has NO interest in what's going on in your bedroom, but gets furious when liberals see fit to teach what goes on in everyone else's bedrooms in the schools...

 

I was wondering where SUV got that from myself. SUV we don't care what you or anyone else does in their own bedroom. That's your business. Also, we aren't the racist, bigotted, homophobes that liberals love to try and paint us as. That is just another liberal lie.

 

As for brushing after every meal.

 

1. Those kids have parents and it's the parents responsiblity to ensure they follow a good oral hygiene regimen, not the government.

 

2. Brushing after every meal in fact is not healthy, but I understand that you believe it is because someone in the government said so.

 

 

We grew up to the belief that brushing is essential for clean and healthy teeth. Brushing at least two times a day is a must to avoid plaque from accumulating on our gums and to remove food debris on our teeth—both of which can cause tooth decay. But should you really brush your teeth right after every meal?

 

If you had fruits, soda, wine or any food that contain acid, you need to wait about an hour before you should brush your teeth. The acids in many foods soften the tooth enamel, making them vulnerable to damage from brushing. Rinsing your mouth with water won’t speed up the process. An hour after meal is enough time for the acids to clear away and the enamel to re-harden

 

 

In addition, brushing your teeth excessively and brushing too long can also lead to gum disease and tooth decay as the enamel is brushed off. When the tooth enamel has worn away, there is no way to reverse the process.

 

According to Peter Heasman, a professor of periodontology at Newcastle University’s School of Dental Sciences, two minutes twice a day brushing with a pressure of 150 grams – equivalent to holding an orange – is correct practice.

 

 

 

Read more: http://healthmad.com/home-health/should-you-really-brush-your-teeth-right-after-meals/#ixzz0vCxY0lJK

 

 

By the way I presonally grew up brushing only twice a day and after 38 years, zero cavaties, perfectly straight teeth and no gum disease. Yet another example of how the government or conventional wisdom can be totally wrong.

 

As far as kids having a say in what they eat, the answer is yes and no. Again this comes back to the fact that parents are resposible for raising their kids, not the government. If you don't want your child eating unhealthy food, don't buy them happy meals at McDonalds. If the kid doesn't like that, too bad, you're the parent and you decide. That's pretty basic common sense, I don't understand how you think it's somehow all up to the child.

 

No, it isn't. This is the result of a terrible system under which citizens get a direct vote on far too many things that they don't understand.

 

Exactly. Direct Democracy was an idea invented by progressives and it doesn't work. That is why the founding fathers established a "republic" because they were well aware that the average person who is working and trying to provide for their family doesn't have the time to invest in all of the legislative actions of their respective states. That is why they have representative. Unfortunately, far too many elected representatives on both sides of the political spectrum are corrupt or flat out incompetent.

 

 

PS, by the way, Direct Democracy is how Bell California, a population of 37,000 with an average income of $30,000 a year ended up with a city manager getting paid nearly $800 thousand dollars a year and a police chief getting paid over $600 thousand a year. They slipped it in on an election ballot, used some legalesse jargan and the average citizen had no idea what they were voting for. Oh, and by the way, they were democrats, I believe. Have to check on that.

Edited July 30, 2010 by BlackHorse

[suv_guy_19]

 

There is a belief amongst most of the left minded people out there that the Governor / President makes all the decisions, passes all the Bill / Laws, decides what to spend money on and how much.

 

I know how the American system of government works.