akirby Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 It still doesn't make sense that car mfrs would not recommend an early oil change if there was some chance that it could damage the engine, especially with today's longer powertrain warrantys. If it makes you feel better go for it but I think it's a waste of oil and money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Modern car engines are totally different than car engines 30 years ago and I'd bet your tractor is closer to a 30 yr old car engine than a modern one. Today's tolerances are small and the materials are different. They no longer even use a special break-in oil. Why would Ford NOT recommend an early oil change if it was necessary? Doesn't make sense. Right, it doesn't make sense, and i sure don't have the answer for it and can not speak on ford's behalf. I have however found fine metal shavings after dumping the oil the first time in my 2010 F150, which confirms my believe in earlier then recommended oil- change intervals. If nothing else, then at least the very first/second one. To expect no imidiate wear on any of the moving parts in a brand new engine without the possibility of any shavings whatsoever is nothing other then wishfull thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Right, it doesn't make sense, and i sure don't have the answer for it and can not speak on ford's behalf. I have however found fine metal shavings after dumping the oil the first time in my 2010 F150, which confirms my believe in earlier then recommended oil- change intervals. If nothing else, then at least the very first/second one. To expect no imidiate wear on any of the moving parts in a brand new engine without the possibility of any shavings whatsoever is nothing other then wishfull thinking. I didn't say there was no possibility of shavings - I said it wasn't necessary to change the oil early to prevent damage. I'm sure when Ford did the ecoboost torture test they waited until the recommended interval to do the first change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jammer136 Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I'm going to ask my dealer to throw in a half dozen of the Motorcraft filters when I take delivery on my new EB (if it ever arrives). How did your dealer respond? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesxpress Posted August 6, 2011 Share Posted August 6, 2011 Yiu guys are killing me. :hysterical: Just put the damn oil in it they tell you to and do it when the truck tells you to do it. Jeese.................. Motorcraft synthetic blend 5W-30. You can get it at Ya'll Mart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmo Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 First oil change was done at 2500. Second at 6000. My next will be done at 10000 and then after every 5000 miles. Dealer still puts a sticker in the window to change every 3000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesxpress Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 The dealer is getting allot of your hard earned $$$$ for something that is not required or reccomended by Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 The dealer is getting allot of your hard earned $$$$ for something that is not required or reccomended by Ford. The factory interval was 5000 on early Fusions so it may be following the recommended Ford interval. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmo Posted August 8, 2011 Share Posted August 8, 2011 Thanks for the concern. Now, if you could get our kids in Washington to be concerned about our hard earned $$$$...........well, you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikesxpress Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 The factory interval was 5000 on early Fusions so it may be following the recommended Ford interval. Not likely. The dealer is just ripping him off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmo Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Certain special operating conditions...every 5000 miles, oil and filter changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Not likely. The dealer is just ripping him off. The dealer was recommending 3K and of course that's a ripoff. ilmo was doing the 5K changes on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 9, 2011 Share Posted August 9, 2011 Certain special operating conditions...every 5000 miles, oil and filter changes. In other words - following the OM recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p38fln Posted August 10, 2011 Share Posted August 10, 2011 There are two circumstances where the OM says to not use the IOLM - 1. If the IOLM is accidentally reset (In which case, change oil at 7,500 miles) 2. Operating PRIMARILY in dusty conditions such as unpaved roads (Change oil at 5,000 miles) For all other driving styles (including patrol car use and extensive idling) follow the IOLM. Your dealer will try to twist the wording to convince you that you're in a dusty area (since extensive idling is no longer a reason for ignoring the meter). My favorite was the local dealer's "The salt on the road makes dust when it dries." Yeah, not every day of the year though, and certainly not more than 50% of the time I'm driving the truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmo Posted August 11, 2011 Share Posted August 11, 2011 (edited) Not likely. The dealer is just ripping him off. $1750 for Ecoboost? Edited August 11, 2011 by ilmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelpond Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 $1750 for Ecoboost? $750, dealer invoice is something like $623 if memory serves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilmo Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Not likely on this deal.....see window sticker. He is getting ripped off. http://services.forddirect.fordvehicles.com/inventory/WindowSticker.pdf?vin=1FTFX1ET5BFC45875 mikesxpress, on 09 August 2011 - 03:47 AM, said:Not likely. The dealer is just ripping him off. p38fln Posted 10 August 2011 - 12:57 PM There are two circumstances where the OM says to not use the IOLM - 1. If the IOLM is accidentally reset (In which case, change oil at 7,500 miles) 2. Operating PRIMARILY in dusty conditions such as unpaved roads (Change oil at 5,000 miles) My criteria for 5000 mile oil/filter changes. Thanks, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waloud Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Looks like the price is for the XLT package with the Ecoboost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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