rockford Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Any signs of air ride suspensions? Is the frame, axles, etc pretty close to that of the 2005's & 06's? Any hint of a 6 speed auto? No Air Susp as of right now, frame, axle, etc are essentially the same. Not sure about the 6-speed. The grill now raises with the hood, the tailgate has Super Duty stamped into it, the interior under went a complete make-over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FRdesign Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 Hows the engine. Know any stats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isellford Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 The 2007 SD will be the same style as what we at KTP are building now. The new design will start production in Jan of 2007 and will be considered the 2008 model. I was told that the availability of a newly formulated diesel fuel that the 6.4L would run more efficiently on is what has pushed the production back. The oil companies were not able to get this to market in order for the 6.4L to launch in Oct of 2006 for the 2007MY.This info was from some engineers at KTP and is probably subject to change. I have been told the same thing by our Commercial Truck manager at Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBear Posted January 18, 2006 Share Posted January 18, 2006 (edited) The concept is not that bad if it was toned down a bit. I hope they do drop a different looking cab on the SD's than the one that is on the current model and the test mules that have been spotted. I like the Brinks truck look where there is less window and more door, kinda like the 300M. I hate that look- and it's been a source of some controversy in the F150. It feels OK once you're inside, but that stoopid deep bed design is a side effect of the look. Universally hated by guys that actually use the truck as a truck- even six-footers have trouble reaching in and dragging stuff out without dropping the tailgate. First and foremost, it's a truck- designers need to remember that. Edited January 18, 2006 by PolarBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuperCrew Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I'm not a fan of the tall side, small window style. If I wanted to feel like I was driving a 300C, I'd get one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I hate that look- and it's been a source of some controversy in the F150. It feels OK once you're inside, but that stoopid deep bed design is a side effect of the look. Universally hated by guys that actually use the truck as a truck- even six-footers have trouble reaching in and dragging stuff out without dropping the tailgate. First and foremost, it's a truck- designers need to remember that. I hate tall bed sides, too. My 01 F150 is a pain in the ass to get anything out of, especially since it's a 4x4. My 96 F150 had the perfect height sides. Sometimes I wonder why I ever sold my 96, it was perfect... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBear Posted January 19, 2006 Share Posted January 19, 2006 I hate tall bed sides, too. My 01 F150 is a pain in the ass to get anything out of, especially since it's a 4x4. My 96 F150 had the perfect height sides. Sometimes I wonder why I ever sold my 96, it was perfect... I couldn't bear to part with my '93..... so I just gave it to my kid. 203,000 and still running strong. The best vehicle of any kind that we've ever owned. I still have to go out, give it a good wash, and scratch it behind the mirrors every once in awhile. Come to think of it, I haven't felt that way about a car.... any car..... in a long, long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT40 2 Posted January 29, 2006 Author Share Posted January 29, 2006 does the 2007 SD look anything like the new expedition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmiles63 Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 Does anybody know when we'll be able to order an '07? It looks like 2007 will start production on May 15th, also have heard that the new engine and body style will be out as 2008 model in January 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorBob Posted February 1, 2006 Share Posted February 1, 2006 It looks like 2007 will start production on May 15th, also have heard that the new engine and body style will be out as 2008 model in January 2007 May 16 of 2006 or 2007? Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
range Posted February 2, 2006 Share Posted February 2, 2006 sounds like the 2007 will be basically the same as the 06, then the new design will launch early next year as an 08 if I'm understanding the post correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
95CobraR Posted February 3, 2006 Share Posted February 3, 2006 The 2007 SD will be the same style as what we at KTP are building now. The new design will start production in Jan of 2007 and will be considered the 2008 model. That works perfectly for me although I am not interested in the diesel. You can just put another V-10 in my '08 SD. Thanks for the updates. I'll be watching for more of your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzltech1 Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 That works perfectly for me although I am not interested in the diesel. You can just put another V-10 in my '08 SD. Thanks for the updates. I'll be watching for more of your posts. no more v-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 Any of you KTP boys see anything that might suggest a cab structure better suited to a class 6,7 or 8 truck? Keep in mind the no compete expires soon. So if they are going to get back in, I would assume they would do it gradually. Any commonality of cabs as long as they were engineered properly would be a big cost saver. If the current 650/750 has any negative press, some guys bitch about the low seating position. what it needs is more greenhouse that would lead to elevated seating and improved visibility. In any case, I'm with you guys who don't like the big door/small glass look. It's a truck! It should be functional. And as for the bed height, the 150 sure as hell sets a poor example. For those fleets that have a significant number, I bet at some point in time the workers comp claims associated with back strains will start to tell a story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awysocki Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 The 2007 SD will be the same style as what we at KTP are building now. The new design will start production in Jan of 2007 and will be considered the 2008 model. I was told that the availability of a newly formulated diesel fuel that the 6.4L would run more efficiently on is what has pushed the production back. The oil companies were not able to get this to market in order for the 6.4L to launch in Oct of 2006 for the 2007MY.This info was from some engineers at KTP and is probably subject to change. Are you talking about the low sulfer diesel fuel? I heard the oil companies received a one year delay on the deadline from the EPA. Wonder how well the 6.4 will run on the high sulfer fuel out there now since I doubt it will be universally available for a couple of years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarBear Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 no more v-10 Aaack! Tell me it ain't so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLPRacing Posted February 6, 2006 Share Posted February 6, 2006 no more v-10 What do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportscraft Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 Any more on the rumor that the F450's will be offered with a pickup bed from the factory? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT40 2 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 any thing new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_fairmont_wagon Posted February 20, 2006 Share Posted February 20, 2006 Just taking a guess here, from another thread, it appears that the V-10 will be pushed to the side for a new larger displacement V-8. Though, someone else in that same thread stated that Ford was testing VCT on the current 3V v-10 heads (as they apparently do not have the VCT that the 5.4 and 4.6L heads do). Take that for what its worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 In a few years ford will be able to compete in the heavy truck market? I like the way the Ford trucks look now, and that concept I was was terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT40 2 Posted March 7, 2006 Author Share Posted March 7, 2006 any thing new? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isellford Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I attended the National Truck Equipment Show last week in Atlanta. We had several sessions with the head engineer for trucks. The 2007 is a carry over vehicle with a few package and trim enhancements. The big change will be in January when the new emissions for diesels kicks in and the truck will undergo both a sheet metal and engine/exhaust changes. They did NOT go into any detail on the sheet metal and the only emissions we talked about was the exhaust, extra cooling, etc that will be required. No cost estimaters were given but in one of the meetings with the GM head engineer, he stated that they anticipate costs to go up $3500 to $5000 on their HD trucks. IH was there as well and did not give ideas on their increases on their med duty trucks. The concensus was that a lot of potential customers will pull ahead their buying to avoid the 07 emissions and increased cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Rosadini Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 I attended the National Truck Equipment Show last week in Atlanta. We had several sessions with the head engineer for trucks. The 2007 is a carry over vehicle with a few package and trim enhancements.The big change will be in January when the new emissions for diesels kicks in and the truck will undergo both a sheet metal and engine/exhaust changes. They did NOT go into any detail on the sheet metal and the only emissions we talked about was the exhaust, extra cooling, etc that will be required. No cost estimaters were given but in one of the meetings with the GM head engineer, he stated that they anticipate costs to go up $3500 to $5000 on their HD trucks. IH was there as well and did not give ideas on their increases on their med duty trucks. The concensus was that a lot of potential customers will pull ahead their buying to avoid the 07 emissions and increased cost. Ed, Did he drop any hints on 650/750 or the tandem issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isellford Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 (edited) Ed, Did he drop any hints on 650/750 or the tandem issue? The only 08 F650/750 info we got is that the 6.4L powerstroke will not be available and that the Cummins will increase from a 5.9L to a 6.4L. Of course after 1/1/07 the whole emissions, fuel, diesel oil changes so no one could say how much the trucks would increase. Edited March 9, 2006 by isellford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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