Fatso Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Ford Motor has a home for all displaced employees-----------------THE ROUGE--------------------------- and it aint pretty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trailfndr Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 AAI and OHAP were to get products in the October modification that was turned down. AAI and OHAP were in dire need of product. I am not a pro on the matter but i thought OHAP was committed product until 2013 and then new product would be identified. We were on the chopping block and the IUAW saved us bottom line. AAI is a happy place again. Thats pretty funny...I work at AAI, and have not heard one person say they liked this deal...You must be in manegement to think that AAI is a "Happy Place". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raws41900 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It will be very easy for the Company to invest somewhere else if the contract is voted down. And I expect that some of it will be gone--especially the work coming in from Mexico, China and Japan. So, AAI, REP, Rawsonville and others, kiss your work goodbye if it isn't ratified. That would definitely mean Romeo Engine and Rawsonville closed and probably AAI closed. It would hit other plants that supply them. hey dummy, it's always been "very easy" for the company to invest somewhere else, you think the big bad UAW could stop them? no. you think the work going to AAI is because of the UAW? fuck no it isnt, Ford needs more production for the US to build fusions, they already run the plant in mexico on 3 shifts, they need somewhere to build another shift worth of cars.. where the fuck are they going to do it? build another plant in mexico or china to ship cars to the US? what fucking sense would that make when they have a plant that can produce them in flat rock. your fucking dilusional if you think the $IUAW$ twisted $Fords$ arm into doing it. it makes sense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ktp1989 Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 hey dummy, it's always been "very easy" for the company to invest somewhere else, you think the big bad UAW could stop them? no. you think the work going to AAI is because of the UAW? fuck no it isnt, Ford needs more production for the US to build fusions, they already run the plant in mexico on 3 shifts, they need somewhere to build another shift worth of cars.. where the fuck are they going to do it? build another plant in mexico or china to ship cars to the US? what fucking sense would that make when they have a plant that can produce them in flat rock. your fucking dilusional if you think the $IUAW$ twisted $Fords$ arm into doing it. it makes sense. Bottom line is 78% of Fords operations are outside the US...so the company goes where they can make the most money with the cheapest labor. Now that the IUAW has given into the 2 tier wage it's actually cheaper for the company to bring work back to the US plants. The union has no say on that and if the company is gonna do it they let the union tell it's membership they secured these new jobs when Mullaly is telling everyone the past 3 weeks that they are bringing 7000 jobs back before the contract even was discussed. Bottom line is, at anytime, can state that the market changed and those promises will not be honored....and they will. Supposed to add 10k jobs last contract...cut 12K....but they said they would add jobs....so let's believe them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrIcecold Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 (edited) Assembly Plant Product AAI Will balance out of Mazda 6 production. A new fl exible assembly system to provide a second source for the next Generation Fusion (which is currently built exclusively in Mexico) will be installed and a second shift added. The plant also will receive the next generation Mustang. Total plant investment is $555M. Chicago Assembly Will continue with Explorer and Taurus, including adding a third shift of production and insourcing the police vehicles. Investment in the plant is $117M. Dearborn Truck The next generation of the industry leading F-Series truck will continue at DTP after $359M investment. Kansas City Assembly Plant The Kansas City Assembly plant will grow with the North American introduction of the Transit Commercial Van, being insourced from Europe. To support the growth, an integrated stamping plant is being added to the site. A second shift of F-series production is being added in 2012, and the next generation F-Series is awarded to the plant. Total investment on the site is over $1B. Kentucky Truck Enabling Fords Truck Leadership position is execution of the next generation Super Duty Truck and continuation of the Expedition and Navigator. The investment of $621M includes adding a press line. Louisville Assembly The launch of the all new Escape in 2012 will be followed by the introduction of an exciting new product. The popularity of the Escape and the addition of a new product will require a third shift of production. Total plant investment is $639M. Michigan Assembly Fords growth in the small car segment continues with the Focus Battery Electric Vehicle. The high mileage C-Max is being insourced from Europe and will feature both hybrid and plug-in hybrid powerpacks. As the ever-popular Focus continues, a third shift of production is being added to meet market demand. Total investment of $297M Ohio Assembly The commercial vehicle portfolio is enabled by the insourcing of the Medium Truck and the frame assembly from Mexico, along with the insourcing of the Motorhome Chassis. The E-Series cutaway rounds out the line-up. Total plant investment of $128M. Twin Cities As previously announced, the Twin Cities Assembly plant will close with the balance out of the Ranger at the end of 2011. Work in-sourced from Mexico, China and Japan $16 billion in investment and new products Your negotiating team has consistently heard our members demanding more job security because members understand that without product for our plants, our futures are not secure. Th is tentative agreement adds another 5,750 jobs. Th ese new UAW jobs mean more than 12,000 new jobs in total with jobs previously announced by Ford. Many of these jobs will be added by the end of 2012, and all will be added during the term of the new contract. Th ese new jobs will be added to communities across America where people have been struggling to recover from our nations economic turmoil. Th e UAW Ford proposed agreement also includes $16 billion of investment to produce new models and upgraded vehicles and components by 2015, of which, $6.3 billion will be invested directly into retooling and upgrading plants. Many of the product commitments in this agreement are from vehicle manufacturing re-sourced or in-sourced directly from other countries, including China, Japan and Mexico. Just as important as the investment commitment is new contract language that gives our members a better chance of competing for work with outside suppliers. Th e new language, which will be closely monitored by the UAW Ford Departments new Advanced Manufacturing and Sourcing team, strengthens our ability to compete for existing and new work. Your negotiators also insisted and won agreement that the current moratorium on outsourcing of work from Ford facilities be extended for the life of this proposed agreement. Th e following chart details the new product and plant investment that was secured in this tentative agreement. FORD HOURLY WORKERS 3 Powertrain Plant Product Dearborn Engine Plant In support of Fords leadership in fuel economy initiatives, incremental capacity will be added to the plant for the 2.0L I4 engine. The idled side of the plant will be reopened to add the newly insourced F-Series Vehicle Personalization Center as part of the $130M investment. Cleveland Engine Site The plant is awarded a new fl exible small displacement engine assembly line. The good news at the site continues with the announcement that a third shift of production is being added for the Duratec 3.5L/3.7L V6 engines. Total investment on the site is $278M. The 3.0L Duratec engine balances out at Cleveland Plant 2 after a solid 18 year run. Lima Engine Plant The popular Duratec 3.5/3.7L V6 continues and a new industry leading small V6 will be added to the plant at an investment of $400M. Romeo Engine Plant Truck leadership is requiring the continuation of the 6.2L V8, a key engine in Fordstruck lineup. The 5.4L Supercharged engine gets upgraded to a 5.8L. The machining of 5.0L blocks continues and 5.0L connecting rod machining is introduced. The 4.6L balances out after a very successful life cycle. Total investment is $50M. Livonia Transmission The 6R product lineup continues with a substantial capacity increase, while the 4R line balances out. Plant investment is $192M. Sharonville Transmission The Gear Center of Excellence sees plenty of growth as the 6F, 6F-mid and 6R all have increasing demand. The 6R140 transmission continues, and insources an application for the Medium Truck. Plant investment is $220M. The FN gears and the 5R110 balance out. Van Dyke Transmission The HF35 transmission, insourced from Japan, is the fi rst hybrid transmission produced at Ford. The 6F-mid and the 6F both will experience a capacity increase, and two new applications of the 6F-mid will be insourced. Total investment of $220M. Rawsonville The balance out of starters and coils enables the transformation of Rawsonville by the insourcing of several products, including the 6R140 oil pump from China, the HEV battery pack from Mexico, HF35 Kitting, and sequencing for MAP and DTP. The continuation of the existing 6F35/50 Kitting, Carbon Can/Air Induction Assembly is included in the $53M investment. Sterling The growth of Sterling business includes introduction of the rear drive unit used in the Edge, Escape, Fusion, MKZ, Flex, MKT and global products such as Kuga and Eco-Sport. The in-sourcing of the Transit axle assembly and gear manufacturing, subsequent Rear Drive Unit capacity increase, and F-150 E-Locker Differential Assembly provide incremental growth. The F-150, Super Duty, Mustang, Expedition and Navigator axles continue, the Ranger axle balances out. Total investment of $141M. Woodhaven Forge Woodhaven Forge is awarded the crankshaft for the small displacement V6 engine, and will continue to forge their current line-up of 3.5L/3.7/5.4L/6.8L cranks up to their max capacity. Total investment of $4M. 4 FORD HOURLY WORKERS Stamping Plant Product Buffalo Stamping In addition to the continuation of the Edge, MKX, Flex, and MKT stampings, the plant will receive incremental stampings in support of future product programs. A new Blanking line will also be installed, for a total investment of $136M. Chicago Stamping The stampings for the Taurus and Explorer continues. Incremental stampings will also be sourced to the plant. Total Investment of $86M. Dearborn Stamping/ Dearborn Diversifi ed Products The two Rouge plants will be vibrant and growing as they get an infl ux of new equipment, which includes four new press lines, three new blankers, and four new Hydroform lines with two new presses. This new equipment will be used to add incremental stampings and hydroforming to support the next generation F-Series. Total investment of $484M. Walton Hill Stamping The Walton Hills Stamping plant closes. Woodhaven Stamping The current F-Series, Expedition and Navigator stampings continue. I would ask my brothers and sisters at plants that have all of the job security now to support this agreement so we can also enjoy knowing our job will be there for us in the future. There are 20,000 of us that need this investment in our plants. Thank you UAW AAI is buzzing with happiness. Everyone here is excited and if any news media comes to AAI everyone of us will state how blessed we truly are here with this new investment I've been at AAI 25 yrs NO buzz at the plant today but the buzz on how we already knew of this info & how we will Vote NO not sure where your at? but most I know want our stuff back (like salary got) Sorry to be the one to let you know Not all everyone @ AAI feels the way your saying it is.... Edited October 5, 2011 by mrIcecold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrIcecold Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Well AAI and OHAP were on the chopping block so the UAW saved us......... As far as the rest, 6 billion is a hell of a good job of bargaining for our job security LOL... chopping Block I don't think so...fords been planning this for quite sometime ( us.. AAI getting new product ) most here knew something was coming not "IF" just what.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrIcecold Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 It will be very easy for the Company to invest somewhere else if the contract is voted down. And I expect that some of it will be gone--especially the work coming in from Mexico, China and Japan. So, AAI, REP, Rawsonville and others, kiss your work goodbye if it isn't ratified. That would definitely mean Romeo Engine and Rawsonville closed and probably AAI closed. It would hit other plants that supply them. still a NO Vote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrIcecold Posted October 5, 2011 Share Posted October 5, 2011 Thats pretty funny...I work at AAI, and have not heard one person say they liked this deal...You must be in manegement to think that AAI is a "Happy Place". I agree 100% been at AAI 25yrs I hear the same from most of the guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janeaubrey19 Posted October 6, 2011 Share Posted October 6, 2011 The one person said it perfectly their main goal was for 2nd tier workers. They really didn't do much for the exiesting members. Most people I talk to aren't happy w/ it either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenger Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The one person said it perfectly their main goal was for 2nd tier workers. They really didn't do much for the exiesting members. Most people I talk to aren't happy w/ it either. You guys must have a small circle. Most in my plant love this contract. It helps us all out. Work in the plants, great bonuses and help for the Entry Level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 You guys must have a small circle. Most in my plant love this contract. It helps us all out. Work in the plants, great bonuses and help for the Entry Level. Guess you aren't at WHSP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 (edited) I dont blame the UAW for the economic turmoil we have suffered since 2007. Those in Ohio may want to recall those republicans they voted in as to why the UAW could not stop Ford from closing Walton Start with kasich all of the problems start in the voting booth and the specific problematic party would republican Edited October 7, 2011 by Armstrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armstrong Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Assembly Plant Product AAI Will balance out of Mazda 6 production. A new fl exible assembly system to provide a second source for the next Generation Fusion (which is currently built exclusively in Mexico) will be installed and a second shift added. The plant also will receive the next generation Mustang. Total plant investment is $555M. Chicago Assembly Will continue with Explorer and Taurus, including adding a third shift of production and insourcing the police vehicles. Investment in the plant is $117M. Dearborn Truck The next generation of the industry leading F-Series truck will continue at DTP after $359M investment. Kansas City Assembly Plant The Kansas City Assembly plant will grow with the North American introduction of the Transit Commercial Van, being insourced from Europe. To support the growth, an integrated stamping plant is being added to the site. A second shift of F-series production is being added in 2012, and the next generation F-Series is awarded to the plant. Total investment on the site is over $1B. Kentucky Truck Enabling Ford’s Truck Leadership position is execution of the next generation Super Duty Truck and continuation of the Expedition and Navigator. The investment of $621M includes adding a press line. Louisville Assembly The launch of the all new Escape in 2012 will be followed by the introduction of an exciting new product. The popularity of the Escape and the addition of a new product will require a third shift of production. Total plant investment is $639M. Michigan Assembly Ford’s growth in the small car segment continues with the Focus Battery Electric Vehicle. The high mileage C-Max is being insourced from Europe and will feature both hybrid and plug-in hybrid powerpacks. As the ever-popular Focus continues, a third shift of production is being added to meet market demand. Total investment of $297M Ohio Assembly The commercial vehicle portfolio is enabled by the insourcing of the Medium Truck and the frame assembly from Mexico, along with the insourcing of the Motorhome Chassis. The E-Series cutaway rounds out the line-up. Total plant investment of $128M. Twin Cities As previously announced, the Twin Cities Assembly plant will close with the balance out of the Ranger at the end of 2011. Work in-sourced from Mexico, China and Japan $16 billion in investment and new products Your negotiating team has consistently heard our members demanding more job security because members understand that without product for our plants, our futures are not secure. Th is tentative agreement adds another 5,750 jobs. Th ese new UAW jobs mean more than 12,000 new jobs in total with jobs previously announced by Ford. Many of these jobs will be added by the end of 2012, and all will be added during the term of the new contract. Th ese new jobs will be added to communities across America where people have been struggling to recover from our nation’s economic turmoil. Th e UAW Ford proposed agreement also includes $16 billion of investment to produce new models and upgraded vehicles and components by 2015, of which, $6.3 billion will be invested directly into retooling and upgrading plants. Many of the product commitments in this agreement are from vehicle manufacturing re-sourced or in-sourced directly from other countries, including China, Japan and Mexico. Just as important as the investment commitment is new contract language that gives our members a better chance of competing for work with outside suppliers. Th e new language, which will be closely monitored by the UAW Ford Department’s new Advanced Manufacturing and Sourcing team, strengthens our ability to compete for existing and new work. Your negotiators also insisted and won agreement that the current moratorium on outsourcing of work from Ford facilities be extended for the life of this proposed agreement. Th e following chart details the new product and plant investment that was secured in this tentative agreement. FORD HOURLY WORKERS 3 Powertrain Plant Product Dearborn Engine Plant In support of Ford’s leadership in fuel economy initiatives, incremental capacity will be added to the plant for the 2.0L I4 engine. The idled side of the plant will be reopened to add the newly insourced F-Series Vehicle Personalization Center as part of the $130M investment. Cleveland Engine Site The plant is awarded a new fl exible small displacement engine assembly line. The good news at the site continues with the announcement that a third shift of production is being added for the Duratec 3.5L/3.7L V6 engines. Total investment on the site is $278M. The 3.0L Duratec engine balances out at Cleveland Plant 2 after a solid 18 year run. Lima Engine Plant The popular Duratec 3.5/3.7L V6 continues and a new industry leading small V6 will be added to the plant at an investment of $400M. Romeo Engine Plant Truck leadership is requiring the continuation of the 6.2L V8, a key engine in Ford’struck lineup. The 5.4L Supercharged engine gets upgraded to a 5.8L. The machining of 5.0L blocks continues and 5.0L connecting rod machining is introduced. The 4.6L balances out after a very successful life cycle. Total investment is $50M. Livonia Transmission The 6R product lineup continues with a substantial capacity increase, while the 4R line balances out. Plant investment is $192M. Sharonville Transmission The Gear Center of Excellence sees plenty of growth as the 6F, 6F-mid and 6R all have increasing demand. The 6R140 transmission continues, and insources an application for the Medium Truck. Plant investment is $220M. The FN gears and the 5R110 balance out. Van Dyke Transmission The HF35 transmission, insourced from Japan, is the fi rst hybrid transmission produced at Ford. The 6F-mid and the 6F both will experience a capacity increase, and two new applications of the 6F-mid will be insourced. Total investment of $220M. Rawsonville The balance out of starters and coils enables the transformation of Rawsonville by the insourcing of several products, including the 6R140 oil pump from China, the HEV battery pack from Mexico, HF35 Kitting, and sequencing for MAP and DTP. The continuation of the existing 6F35/50 Kitting, Carbon Can/Air Induction Assembly is included in the $53M investment. Sterling The growth of Sterling business includes introduction of the rear drive unit used in the Edge, Escape, Fusion, MKZ, Flex, MKT and global products such as Kuga and Eco-Sport. The in-sourcing of the Transit axle assembly and gear manufacturing, subsequent Rear Drive Unit capacity increase, and F-150 E-Locker Differential Assembly provide incremental growth. The F-150, Super Duty, Mustang, Expedition and Navigator axles continue, the Ranger axle balances out. Total investment of $141M. Woodhaven Forge Woodhaven Forge is awarded the crankshaft for the small displacement V6 engine, and will continue to forge their current line-up of 3.5L/3.7/5.4L/6.8L cranks up to their max capacity. Total investment of $4M. 4 FORD HOURLY WORKERS Stamping Plant Product Buffalo Stamping In addition to the continuation of the Edge, MKX, Flex, and MKT stampings, the plant will receive incremental stampings in support of future product programs. A new Blanking line will also be installed, for a total investment of $136M. Chicago Stamping The stampings for the Taurus and Explorer continues. Incremental stampings will also be sourced to the plant. Total Investment of $86M. Dearborn Stamping/ Dearborn Diversifi ed Products The two Rouge plants will be vibrant and growing as they get an infl ux of new equipment, which includes four new press lines, three new blankers, and four new Hydroform lines with two new presses. This new equipment will be used to add incremental stampings and hydroforming to support the next generation F-Series. Total investment of $484M. Walton Hill Stamping The Walton Hills Stamping plant closes. Woodhaven Stamping The current F-Series, Expedition and Navigator stampings continue. I would ask my brothers and sisters at plants that have all of the job security now to support this agreement so we can also enjoy knowing our job will be there for us in the future. There are 20,000 of us that need this investment in our plants. Thank you UAW AAI is buzzing with happiness. Everyone here is excited and if any news media comes to AAI everyone of us will state how blessed we truly are here with this new investment AAI is a in line for a good future Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 AAI is a in line for a good future "Thanks to the IUAW for negotiating a contract that gives "me" a secure future at the expense of WHSP." Enjoy riding your "jet-ski". You just sold-out your brothers and sisters at ANOTHER plant so you can have cash in your pocket. Maybe AAI will be named for closure in 2015? I'd sign that deal for $5000. How's that going to feel? In Solidarity!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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