Langston Hughes Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Because the questions are still unanswered, by the press or the administration. But, you don't care. Your "Give a damn" is broken. What questions are those? I didn't watch the link. could you find a transcript or copy it yourself? He could just find them here http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/world/house-armed-services-committee-report-on-benghazi-attacks/805/ or perhaps here. http://www.intelligence.senate.gov/benghazi2014/benghazi.pdf Other than discussing the attack as possibly coming from protests as the other attacks did, these reports basically dismiss the most egregious claims against former sect. Clinton and president Obama. I do like the very forceful section V. There was no "stand down order" issued..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr7g428 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 And now the smoking gun. Emails from with in the Whitehouse using the video as a cover up for failed policy. Read the latest set of emails here and see for your self: http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/1919_production-4-17-14/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Its not a coincidence that Susan Rice hit the news shows with a prepared statement that was clearly a lie and wrong then and now. Most politicians stretch the truth and others outright lie. It takes a special breed of low life/s to package a lie and launch it while the dead bodies of those affected were still warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Its not a coincidence that Susan Rice hit the news shows with a prepared statement that was clearly a lie and wrong then and now. Most politicians stretch the truth and others outright lie. It takes a special breed of low life/s to package a lie and launch it while the dead bodies of those affected were still warm. And its not a surprise she got promoted for carrying the water for the BHO white house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 And its not a surprise she got promoted for carrying the water for the BHO white house. Karma is a bitch and hopefully some people experience it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 That smoking gun just buried the progressives with everyone who is honestly an independent. I see a sunami coming, and it is heading straight towards Washington, with the senate as its target. Lets see if the progressives can blame global warming for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 That smoking gun just buried the progressives with everyone who is honestly an independent. I see a sunami coming, and it is heading straight towards Washington, with the senate as its target. Lets see if the progressives can blame global warming for this one. Still pretty questionable whether or not the Republicans can get the votes to take back the Senate. Surely they will win some seats, but some of the ones they absolutely need like Arkansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Georgia are all quite undecided so far, with a couple of them (Louisiana and Arkansas) still leaning pretty heavily toward the Democratic candidate in the latest polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted April 30, 2014 Share Posted April 30, 2014 Still pretty questionable whether or not the Republicans can get the votes to take back the Senate. Surely they will win some seats, but some of the ones they absolutely need like Arkansas, Louisiana, North Carolina, and Georgia are all quite undecided so far, with a couple of them (Louisiana and Arkansas) still leaning pretty heavily toward the Democratic candidate in the latest polls. That is because the republican primaries have just finished, or may still be going on in some cases. Wait a few weeks. From generic pols, the republican is in like Flint in Arkansas and North Carolina. Georgia, not so much. Alaska will go repub also, but that may be cancelled out by the backlash against Mconnell. Everyone; including myself, is suggesting that if the Tea Party person can't win the nomination, then in that particular race, they should vote for the democrat......even at the expense of losing the senate. Obama will just veto anything the house and senate pass if they are republican, and he has a phone and a pen, so they won't stop him either since they won't have the votes to over ride his veto, nor have the gonads to push against his edicts. It really sounds crazy to just purposely give up a seat in the senate, but truth be told these republicans aren't going to do much of anything. (a few yes, most, no) It is no surprise that both partys are just trying to solidify power in Washington, and anyone who trusts either of these two entities to fix something is crazy, unless they have a very strong leader. 14 is just a preliminary for 16, and yes the democrats will probably be stronger, but there is no sense in putting your word on the line, if you can't enforce it. Under these conditions, if you are against Obama, you can not win unless you impeach him, then you get Biden; and unleashing his incompetence upon America is a terrible idea. Putting all your eggs in one basket is always a bad idea, but even though the odds are against us statistically, 16 is a better plan; although winning the senate in 14 would be a nice caveat. Winning is a good thing, but winning with the right people from either party is an even better thing. I am still looking towards a meeting of the states to make this all a mute point. It is exactly why progressives are against it as much as they are, since republicans control more of the state legislators. Time will tell, but with Obysmal pushing in the low 40s, everything may come up roses. I won't count on it, but I would rather be on the opposing side of that rating, than on the side that has it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I can only imagine how well many of these Republicans would be polling if they actually had a cohesive message other than "we're not Obama". Okay then, what are you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 I can only imagine how well many of these Republicans would be polling if they actually had a cohesive message other than "we're not Obama". Okay then, what are you? "Anyone but Bush" got Obama elected....twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 "Anyone but Bush" got Obama elected....twice. It was a bit more than that. Obama ran on his own message. You may not have agreed with it, but "hope & change" was at least something consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 It was a bit more than that. Obama ran on his own message. You may not have agreed with it, but "hope & change" was at least something consistent. Actually, "Hope & Change" were vacant concepts built with intentionally vague connotations yet implying change from what existed at the moments prior without asserting anything to replace it. It was effective marketing. It promised exactly what the viewer's imagination desired. Without proposing anything concrete in the process. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imawhosure Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 And now the smoking gun. Emails from with in the Whitehouse using the video as a cover up for failed policy. Read the latest set of emails here and see for your self: http://www.judicialwatch.org/document-archive/1919_production-4-17-14/ XR, these e-mails are fascinating if you read the threads. Joke Carney can't pedal fast enough away from this, even though I seen he did try, while suggesting the reporter who was grilling him was tired, lol. It appears what they are attempting to do now, is a cover up, of a cover up. It isn't going to work, and I am quite positive that this is going to end up back in Hillys lap too. Her "what difference does it make" video is going to be used far and wide against her if she chooses to run for President, and I bet the 1st group to use it will be her fellow democratic candidates. If Elizabeth Warren doesn't confront her for the nomination now, she is dumber than a box of rocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Martha Stewart went to jail not for insider trading but lying to investigators. Bill Clinton got impeached / disbarred not because of getting a BJ at work but for lying about it, under oath. Watergate / no explanation needed. Sometimes its not the initial mistake or act that is the worst part, its the creative attempts to lie or cover it up that makes it far worse. Bush was far from being a good domestic president and his approval rating took a huge hit largely from the media constantly hammering him ( rightfully so on some issues but not all ). Obama has a crap approval rating with a very large segment of the media supporting him and NOT running stories negative to "their guy". They look the other way. You can only spin something so much and most people now know Obama is an incompetent , ineffective and weak president no matter how the media or supporters tries to prop him up. Clearlay mistakes were made in Benghazi but lying about it and the timeline only makes it worse. Four people already paid for it with their life. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 It was a bit more than that. Obama ran on his own message. You may not have agreed with it, but "hope & change" was at least something consistent. Hope and change was nothing but a slogan and not a message. The majority of the country bought into it twice but i was not fooled by this socialist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 I thought this pretty much sums it up. Well, it looks like Benghazi may finally be getting the attention that is deserves. New emails have popped up, and the left wing press may finally be noticing. My biggest question.....HOW do the people in charge look at themselves in the mirror . We are AMERICANS....the ones NOT to mess with, the ones who take care of our own, the ones who fight for what is right....and our leaders are far more interested in spin than in honor. The fact that they weren't protected is disgusting enough...But the fact that USMC FAST (A unit specifically trained for this type of fight) could have deployed in time to possibly join the fight, but were held back, is unconscionable. NO ONE has been held accountable. No one. Four of our own, left to die....and the ones responsible still live their privileged lives. Let's hope that someone will finally answer for this vomitous failure to keep our people safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I thought this pretty much sums it up. Yeah, because there's always accountability in government. I hope that whomever said that wants Bush administration officials held accountable for lying to congress and the people for the Iraq invasion and Pat Tillman otherwise it's just another bullshit hypocrite running it's mouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Actually, "Hope & Change" were vacant concepts built with intentionally vague connotations yet implying change from what existed at the moments prior without asserting anything to replace it. It was effective marketing. It promised exactly what the viewer's imagination desired. Without proposing anything concrete in the process. He ran on some specifics: more transparency, health care reform, getting us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Not saying he delivered well on any of them, but they were at least concrete positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Yeah, because there's always accountability in government. I hope that whomever said that wants Bush administration officials held accountable for lying to congress and the people for the Iraq invasion and Pat Tillman otherwise it's just another bullshit hypocrite running it's mouth. If illegal things occurred in those situations, they should be investigated. Otherwise, it's just more deflection on your part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 If illegal things occurred in those situations, they should be investigated. Otherwise, it's just more deflection on your part. Of course they should be but those calling for the heads of Obama administration officials are the same ones defending the Bush era liars. It's a political witch hunt and the crocodile tears over those four pale in comparison with the 4,000 dead in Iraq that they defend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Of course they should be but those calling for the heads of Obama administration officials are the same ones defending the Bush era liars. It's a political witch hunt and the crocodile tears over those four pale in comparison with the 4,000 dead in Iraq that they defend. Two entirely separate issues. Therefore, they should be addressed entirely separately. If there was enough political will and evidence to investigate the alleged misconduct, then by all means they should do it. Last I checked the Senate was still controlled by Democrats. If they wanted to investigate it, they certainly have the ability to. That they aren't suggests to me that their hands are likely just as dirty (or clean) in it as the Republicans'. Edited May 2, 2014 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 Two entirely separate issues. Therefore, they should be addressed entirely separately. If there was enough political will and evidence to investigate the alleged misconduct, then by all means they should do it. Last I checked the Senate was still controlled by Democrats. If they wanted to investigate it, they certainly have the ability to. That they aren't suggests to me that their hands are likely just as dirty (or clean) in it as the Republicans'. Both sides say things that are politically helpful, so i'm just calling out the hypocrisy of the conservatives here. Part of me believes it's all just an act, the hand wringing over what Obama said was the cause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 (edited) Of course they should be but those calling for the heads of Obama administration officials are the same ones defending the Bush era liars. It's a political witch hunt and the crocodile tears over those four pale in comparison with the 4,000 dead in Iraq that they defend.I call "Bullsh*t"!!!!!!I consider myself one of those calling for the heads of Obama Administration officials, but I challeng you to cite me defending Bush era liars. If anything, I have complained about Obama continuing what Bush was doing. Hardly defending Bush. You are painting with too broad of a brush. Edited May 2, 2014 by FiredMotorCompany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 I call "Bullsh*t"!!!!!! I consider myself one of those calling for the heads of Obama Administration officials, but I challeng you to cite me defending Bush era liars. If anything, I have complained about Obama continuing what Bush was doing. Hardly defending Bush. You are painting with too broad of a brush. I call bullshit on your bullshit. You've never offered any contempt for the IRAQ war and the lies that the admin used to trick America into it. I believe that you were on the ones to offer up the democrats voting for the authorization as a defense. I'm not going to travel back months into 50 different threads to find it, so either you can denounce the IRAQ war and the admin officials including Bush over it or my point is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted May 2, 2014 Author Share Posted May 2, 2014 I call bullshit on your bullshit. You've never offered any contempt for the IRAQ war and the lies that the admin used to trick America into it. I believe that you were on the ones to offer up the democrats voting for the authorization as a defense. I'm not going to travel back months into 50 different threads to find it, so either you can denounce the IRAQ war and the admin officials including Bush over it or my point is correct. Never offered any defense, as it was YOUR assertion. Don't try to squirm out of it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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