Stunning: Half of Ford's blue collar workers take buyout

[Bowie]

Think of all the money Ford could save if they could have just let their low performing and unneeded employees go without these huge buyout package.

 

It's just another example of having to pay people to not work. Completely counterintuitive to an outside observer.

 

 

Outside observers have no idea about what is really happening in Ford plants.Only what the media shows or rumors.

[AAISkinsFan]

Oh dear. I do hope that you took the educational buyout package. It is sadly obvious that you must have slept through your elementary and high school classes.

 

Bravo Messr. usa1mac for speaking the truth about the situation at Ford Motor Company. I find it highly offensive that while my investments in the company continue to decline we are forced to pay an obscene amount of money to ner-do-wells that should have been dismissed quite some time ago.

 

Perhaps a little due dilligence on your part might have avoided your poor investment choice...

[MelanieHasA Mustang]

i just skimmed through all your posts that you made here an i have come to the conclusion that you are a very unhappy sour pussied bitch. also, you hold stock in ford and general motors so how the fuck do i work for you bitch? in everyone one of your posts you are either man bashing or calling somebody uneducated. i just love the one post you made where you claim that your support of ford enables all of us to go to walmart and buy our beer. lol! you are a fucking idiot you dumb bitch, lmao! get some class and stfu!

 

My dear little man. It is not worth my while to respond to your rants especially since it is painfully obvious that you are the stereotypical union worker that feels some sort of entitlement. Which is so sad as there are many union individuals out there who work hard, do a good job but whose reputations are soiled by the likes of you.

 

And to clarify as to your employment status, I did not notice that you are currently laid off. However, if you are to return to your job at some point you will indeed be working for me, the shareholder and the consumer who buys many of the products you help create.

 

Now shouldn't you be out looking for a job instead of sitting on the computer during the day?

 

Perhaps a little due dilligence on your part might have avoided your poor investment choice...

 

The majority of my investments were made in the mid 1990's. I was advised to sell quite some time ago but was hopeful that the company would turn around and ignored my broker's advice. Now that I see that Ford is addressing the labor situation at both the blue and white collar levels I am hopeful that I was correct.

[wildosvt]

Oh dear. I do hope that you took the educational buyout package. It is sadly obvious that you must have slept through your elementary and high school classes.

 

Bravo Messr. usa1mac for speaking the truth about the situation at Ford Motor Company. I find it highly offensive that while my investments in the company continue to decline we are forced to pay an obscene amount of money to ner-do-wells that should have been dismissed quite some time ago.

 

 

So Hitman, Are you saying its ok to fly Markie home every weekend at 50K a pop?

[dark270]

My dear little man. It is not worth my while to respond to your rants especially since it is painfully obvious that you are the stereotypical union worker that feels some sort of entitlement. Which is so sad as there are many union individuals out there who work hard, do a good job but whose reputations are soiled by the likes of you.

 

And to clarify as to your employment status, I did not notice that you are currently laid off. However, if you are to return to your job at some point you will indeed be working for me, the shareholder and the consumer who buys many of the products you help create.

 

Now shouldn't you be out looking for a job instead of sitting on the computer during the day?

The majority of my investments were made in the mid 1990's. I was advised to sell quite some time ago but was hopeful that the company would turn around and ignored my broker's advice. Now that I see that Ford is addressing the labor situation at both the blue and white collar levels I am hopeful that I was correct.

 

 

you say one thing and do another, typical woman! you SAY it is not worth your while to respond, YET you do respond!

this comes from a person who EXPECTS child payments and abuses the legal system ?

[coconut]

Oh good grief. It seems people can't even voice an opinion without getting their heads chewed off. Does anyone stop and think that maybe some people took the buyout to better their lives? Or that the so-called lazy ones will be the very ones to stick around for 30+ years?! After all, why leave if you've got it so good, right?

 

I am a proud former-employee of Ford. I took the educational buyout in June and I am extremely happy with my decision. I am still concerned about the welfare of the company: after all, I do own quite a bit of Ford stock and a lot of my friends are still gainfully employed there. Furthermore ,I am just concerned for the working people of this country in general- someone has to look out for us.

 

I spent my 7+ years working at Ford and I'm not ashamed to say I benefited greatly from the experience. However I also have had my fair share of Ford 'souvenirs': a torn rotator cuff, a concussion, tendonitis, impingement syndrome, the list goes on. Not all at once of course!!! But enough to know my body was taking some hits.

 

My family life also suffered. I have two growing sons and it hurt me and them that mommy always worked night shift and had minimal time with them. The mandatory 58-hour weeks didn't make it any better. Financially, I was in a great place. Emotionally, I wasn't.

 

Now I'm not here to tell you that everyone should quit Ford and take a buyout for a more body and family-friendly career. That's not my place. I am only saying that for me and my family it was the only choice that made sense. Do I have to be more frugal now? Absolutely. Do I miss the money that just seemed to flow like a river? Of course. But I am finally able to raise my OWN kids instead of paying someone else to fill in. I get to send them to school, see them when they get home, feed them dinner and tuck them in at night. I laugh a lot more and hurt a lot less. I am content and fulfilled and I wouldn't change it for the world.

 

I guess the point of all my rambling is to tell you that everyone who opts for a buyout is not the same. When I was at Ford I worked everyday and I worked damn hard. I hardly ever had an AWOL and had never been disciplined. I had only been on medical twice- concussions and rotator cuffs can do that to ya. Do I deserve a medal? Hardly. That's what being an adult is all about. But if my company offers me a golden parachute that is best for me and my family- you better believe I'm taking it, and laughing all the way down.

 

I say good luck to everybody who takes a chance at a better life- I hope your dreams come true. And good luck to those of you who are in it for the long haul. I hope the rockiest days are behind you.

Edited November 29, 2006 by coconut

[davdog]

think of all the bandwidth that would have been saved if you saved that bullshit ass comment you idiot. you are just pissed and jealous because because you would love to be a ford employee. it's dumb bitches like you that block themselves from happiness. instead of being worried on how ford employees are gonna spend their buyout money you need to look in the mirror and tell the demon inside you to leave. this is just a jealous comment you made because you spent so much time thinking about how you'd spend the money and hoping that we wouldn't get a buyout.

 

hate is a disease, come back here when you get well!!!!!!!!! :slap:

 

 

You're kidding right? You're saying that Ford shouldn't get rid of slack asses?

 

The number of people that would be jealous of a 65k check and no job is minimal, I'll assume most of them live in trailers.

 

That would make up the difference in pay between new jobs and the old job at ford for what, maybe 2 or 3 years? Now if you got the check and were able to keep working at Ford that would be something to be jealous of.

[Hard Driver]

Oh, my dear Mr. Man, so it all comes down to "I have a penis and you don't!

 

You mean you don't have one! I think that's called some sort of envy

Edited November 30, 2006 by Hard Driver

[allyric]

Oh good grief. It seems people can't even voice an opinion without getting their heads chewed off. Does anyone stop and think that maybe some people took the buyout to better their lives? Or that the so-called lazy ones will be the very ones to stick around for 30+ years?! After all, why leave if you've got it so good, right?

 

I am a proud former-employee of Ford. I took the educational buyout in June and I am extremely happy with my decision. I am still concerned about the welfare of the company: after all, I do own quite a bit of Ford stock and a lot of my friends are still gainfully employed there. Furthermore ,I am just concerned for the working people of this country in general- someone has to look out for us.

 

I spent my 7+ years working at Ford and I'm not ashamed to say I benefited greatly from the experience. However I also have had my fair share of Ford 'souvenirs': a torn rotator cuff, a concussion, tendonitis, impingement syndrome, the list goes on. Not all at once of course!!! But enough to know my body was taking some hits.

 

My family life also suffered. I have two growing sons and it hurt me and them that mommy always worked night shift and had minimal time with them. The mandatory 58-hour weeks didn't make it any better. Financially, I was in a great place. Emotionally, I wasn't.

 

Now I'm not here to tell you that everyone should quit Ford and take a buyout for a more body and family-friendly career. That's not my place. I am only saying that for me and my family it was the only choice that made sense. Do I have to be more frugal now? Absolutely. Do I miss the money that just seemed to flow like a river? Of course. But I am finally able to raise my OWN kids instead of paying someone else to fill in. I get to send them to school, see them when they get home, feed them dinner and tuck them in at night. I laugh a lot more and hurt a lot less. I am content and fulfilled and I wouldn't change it for the world.

 

I guess the point of all my rambling is to tell you that everyone who opts for a buyout is not the same. When I was at Ford I worked everyday and I worked damn hard. I hardly ever had an AWOL and had never been disciplined. I had only been on medical twice- concussions and rotator cuffs can do that to ya. Do I deserve a medal? Hardly. That's what being an adult is all about. But if my company offers me a golden parachute that is best for me and my family- you better believe I'm taking it, and laughing all the way down.

 

I say good luck to everybody who takes a chance at a better life- I hope your dreams come true. And good luck to those of you who are in it for the long haul. I hope the rockiest days are behind you.

 

 

Hey Coconut, you said you took the educational buyout. How much of a yearly sum do you get with that buyout. I know it's 50%, but what does that come to after taxes.

[Coachbelch]

No, when you come into work everyday, do your job, maybe go home with a few aching muscles, and see people perfectly able to do jobs, work the system, get FMLA's, restrictions, go homes etc. it is not BULLSHIT!. If Ford Motor Company and the Union did their job and got rid of the dead wood, and layarounds, maybe Ford would not be in the trouble they are today.And I am wondering how many of the "Happy People" will be "happy" when reality sets in, there are no jobs, and no medical insurance. Don't be so quick to jump the gun. Not everyone is jealous!

 

 

wow nice outlook. I guess the rest of the country that does not work at Ford is on wellfare. It's a good job but it is possible to find another with just as much pay if you apply yourself. There this thing called college. You should try it.

[Pit stop]

wow nice outlook. I guess the rest of the country that does not work at Ford is on wellfare. It's a good job but it is possible to find another with just as much pay if you apply yourself. There this thing called college. You should try it.

The reason Ford is in the financial shape they are in is because of the Problems the had with the Crown Victoria Exploding, Problems with the escort, The Big Tire Scandel, Zero % Financing etc etc etc etc

[Pit stop]

Oh good grief. It seems people can't even voice an opinion without getting their heads chewed off. Does anyone stop and think that maybe some people took the buyout to better their lives? Or that the so-called lazy ones will be the very ones to stick around for 30+ years?! After all, why leave if you've got it so good, right?

 

I am a proud former-employee of Ford. I took the educational buyout in June and I am extremely happy with my decision. I am still concerned about the welfare of the company: after all, I do own quite a bit of Ford stock and a lot of my friends are still gainfully employed there. Furthermore ,I am just concerned for the working people of this country in general- someone has to look out for us.

 

I spent my 7+ years working at Ford and I'm not ashamed to say I benefited greatly from the experience. However I also have had my fair share of Ford 'souvenirs': a torn rotator cuff, a concussion, tendonitis, impingement syndrome, the list goes on. Not all at once of course!!! But enough to know my body was taking some hits.

 

My family life also suffered. I have two growing sons and it hurt me and them that mommy always worked night shift and had minimal time with them. The mandatory 58-hour weeks didn't make it any better. Financially, I was in a great place. Emotionally, I wasn't.

 

Now I'm not here to tell you that everyone should quit Ford and take a buyout for a more body and family-friendly career. That's not my place. I am only saying that for me and my family it was the only choice that made sense. Do I have to be more frugal now? Absolutely. Do I miss the money that just seemed to flow like a river? Of course. But I am finally able to raise my OWN kids instead of paying someone else to fill in. I get to send them to school, see them when they get home, feed them dinner and tuck them in at night. I laugh a lot more and hurt a lot less. I am content and fulfilled and I wouldn't change it for the world.

 

I guess the point of all my rambling is to tell you that everyone who opts for a buyout is not the same. When I was at Ford I worked everyday and I worked damn hard. I hardly ever had an AWOL and had never been disciplined. I had only been on medical twice- concussions and rotator cuffs can do that to ya. Do I deserve a medal? Hardly. That's what being an adult is all about. But if my company offers me a golden parachute that is best for me and my family- you better believe I'm taking it, and laughing all the way down.

 

I say good luck to everybody who takes a chance at a better life- I hope your dreams come true. And good luck to those of you who are in it for the long haul. I hope the rockiest days are behind you.

Great Post, 20 years and I too have opted out..... for alot of the same reasons. There are lots of negative people out there and they do not hesitate to let ya know how stupid taking a buyout package is. But I think that some people hate change, are unwilling to take a chance...even on themselves, or they are financially nowhere near being set up enough to leave at this time. I look forward to working part time, making some pocket change and enjoying what I am doing. I hope things work out as well for me as they seem to be for you and I wish you the best of luck

[WASN'T ME]

The reason Ford is in the financial shape they are in is because of the Problems the had with the Crown Victoria Exploding, Problems with the escort, The Big Tire Scandel, Zero % Financing etc etc etc etc

 

 

tire scandle my ass , jack nassar screwed this company up ,plain and simple .

[Pit stop]

tire scandle my ass , jack nassar screwed this company up ,plain and simple .

Yeh.... But who hired Jack to begin with?????????????

[tcap for now]

My dear little man. It is not worth my while to respond to your rants especially since it is painfully obvious that you are the stereotypical union worker that feels some sort of entitlement. Which is so sad as there are many union individuals out there who work hard, do a good job but whose reputations are soiled by the likes of you.

 

And to clarify as to your employment status, I did not notice that you are currently laid off. However, if you are to return to your job at some point you will indeed be working for me, the shareholder and the consumer who buys many of the products you help create.

 

Now shouldn't you be out looking for a job instead of sitting on the computer during the day?

The majority of my investments were made in the mid 1990's. I was advised to sell quite some time ago but was hopeful that the company would turn around and ignored my broker's advice. Now that I see that Ford is addressing the labor situation at both the blue and white collar levels I am hopeful that I was correct.

 

 

we do not work for you. as a shareholder you profit from our work while doing nothing other than investing your money. while shareholders influence ford they do not have total control, the ford family still does. so indeed he will not work for you and neither will i.

we do not work for consumers. we work to provide the consumer a product. while one can say no consumers no jobs, most consumers do not spend enough with one auto maker per year to pay a salary. we still do not work for them. when all goes as planned we make a product to bring the consumers to us.

 

now if im laid off and i get a job, i loose money. i will loose what i make. which is pointless. under a temporary layoff we are not required to look for work nor would we have a reason too.

i will be out of work when i get my buyout. so here i am online, looking for a job. its a very usefull resource for finding jobs and learning about careers.

 

deadbeats are a problem, but a very minor one. id say they are like a missing hood ornament. you notice them but they do not affect operation. i in no way believe there are enough deadbeats with ford to bring the company to the position its in now. there have been deadbeats since the beginning, and not long ago ford was making big money. i agree that in some cases its gotten out of hand, and needs to be addressed.

 

in my opinion the biggest problem is fords decision making lately. the taurus was left to die. the ranger, econoline, crown vic and the freestar are being left to die. the focus and escape are aging. and the new superduty is finally getting an update after 8 years.

 

ford put all their money into the mustang, explorer, expedition, f-150 and fusion. which aside from being made in mexico is a winner so far. but in 5 years with no redesigns it will be a dud also. they had absolutely no clue gas prices would rise. and they were not prepared for anything other than how much profit they make per suv. they invested very little in plants and design to insure a future. they just looked at how much was coming in and how little they were spending. if i do nothing to my house for 10 years but live in it, then it wont be worth anything either.

 

 

now with aging models, slipping sales and a list minute plan for the future they need to cut costs. in 2000 if someone said legacy costs, everyone would say whats that. its a term created to cover a bigger mistake. they are looking to cut from anywhere but their own pockets. mullalys salary alone would probably almost cover a major refreshing of one model. there is hype over union labor costs. but nothing over how much the top makes. hell i bet mark fields salary could cover one shift in a stamping plant. we have too many levels of management that costs money and slows the flow of info and efficiency.

 

and im not saying all management is to blame either, just most of the decision makers at the top.

 

and they all lived happily ever after. the end.

[ford14]

Think of all the money Ford could save if they could have just let their low performing and unneeded employees go without these huge buyout package.

 

It's just another example of having to pay people to not work. Completely counterintuitive to an outside observer.

 

I know one person who wanted to take the buyout and was denied because they say she has been on medical too long, and they also will not allow her to come back to work either till she has fewer restrictions. She has tried several times to come back to work, and they keep telling her she has too many restrictions. She can't even sit for long periods of time. So she will continue sitting home and getting medical pay, and all her benefits, even though at this point she is serving absolutely no use to the company. And from what I hear her injury was not job related. There are several other people on medical as well in similar situations, they were also denied when they requested to take the buyout. Now these are the people who should have been allowed, even encouraged, to take the buyout, not just the ones who come to work on a regular basis.

Edited November 30, 2006 by ford14

[Imawhosure]

I know one person who wanted to take the buyout and was denied because they say she has been on medical too long, and they also will not allow her to come back to work either till she has fewer restrictions. She has tried several times to come back to work, and they keep telling her she has too many restrictions. She can't even sit for long periods of time. So she will continue sitting home and getting medical pay, and all her benefits, even though at this point she is serving absolutely no use to the company. And from what I hear her injury was not job related. There are several other people on medical as well in similar situations, they were also denied when they requested to take the buyout. Now these are the people who should have been allowed, even encouraged, to take the buyout, not just the ones who come to work on a regular basis.

 

That is probably because Ford already knows what CLAUSE in the next contract is going to allow them to say, bye, bye, to these people without giving them a thing.

 

If it is a personal injury, there is a thing called welfare, and not CORPORATE WELFARE, to sustain them.

 

While I feel for those who are really hurt, (or I perceive to be actually hurt) I will do the right thing for them, and contribute to a fund to help them. Those I perceive to be pulling the typical phoney, forget it.

 

Since it is MY money, it will be my perception of need on who to give some to.

 

That is fair, and that's my story, and I am sticking to it, as should we all, instead of forcing an employer to do it..................which means it actually is coming out of YOUR pocket, even if you know for a fact, someone is scamming the system.

[Pit stop]

Oh good grief. It seems people can't even voice an opinion without getting their heads chewed off. Does anyone stop and think that maybe some people took the buyout to better their lives? Or that the so-called lazy ones will be the very ones to stick around for 30+ years?! After all, why leave if you've got it so good, right?

 

I am a proud former-employee of Ford. I took the educational buyout in June and I am extremely happy with my decision. I am still concerned about the welfare of the company: after all, I do own quite a bit of Ford stock and a lot of my friends are still gainfully employed there. Furthermore ,I am just concerned for the working people of this country in general- someone has to look out for us.

 

I spent my 7+ years working at Ford and I'm not ashamed to say I benefited greatly from the experience. However I also have had my fair share of Ford 'souvenirs': a torn rotator cuff, a concussion, tendonitis, impingement syndrome, the list goes on. Not all at once of course!!! But enough to know my body was taking some hits.

 

My family life also suffered. I have two growing sons and it hurt me and them that mommy always worked night shift and had minimal time with them. The mandatory 58-hour weeks didn't make it any better. Financially, I was in a great place. Emotionally, I wasn't.

 

Now I'm not here to tell you that everyone should quit Ford and take a buyout for a more body and family-friendly career. That's not my place. I am only saying that for me and my family it was the only choice that made sense. Do I have to be more frugal now? Absolutely. Do I miss the money that just seemed to flow like a river? Of course. But I am finally able to raise my OWN kids instead of paying someone else to fill in. I get to send them to school, see them when they get home, feed them dinner and tuck them in at night. I laugh a lot more and hurt a lot less. I am content and fulfilled and I wouldn't change it for the world.

 

I guess the point of all my rambling is to tell you that everyone who opts for a buyout is not the same. When I was at Ford I worked everyday and I worked damn hard. I hardly ever had an AWOL and had never been disciplined. I had only been on medical twice- concussions and rotator cuffs can do that to ya. Do I deserve a medal? Hardly. That's what being an adult is all about. But if my company offers me a golden parachute that is best for me and my family- you better believe I'm taking it, and laughing all the way down.

 

I say good luck to everybody who takes a chance at a better life- I hope your dreams come true. And good luck to those of you who are in it for the long haul. I hope the rockiest days are behind you.

It is just amazing how much discord is on the shop floor right now. Hourly people should be wishing each other well, no matter if their final decision is to stay or to go.

This is a such a strange time for all of us. I wish that all people who wish to leave could do so. I also wish that all people who choose to stay and finish a career at FoMoCo get the chance.

Honestly I do not know why there is so much animosity or where it is coming from but to me it looks like the company wins AGAIN due to our lack of support for one another.

This has been one of the most stressful and difficult decisions in alot of our lifes.

There are people that wish you well and intend to keep in contact after you're gone. They are the ones who are truly happy that there is something new for you on the horizon

I have friends and a spouse staying and sincerely hope FoMoCo pulls their recovery off for everyones sake.

Best of Luck to everyone involved and Happy Holidays