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The Mach E is roughly the same price in the UK and the EU as it is in NA market. The new Explorer EV starting price is even more. Ford is a NA centric manufacture. BMW and Mercedes would get taken down a notch or two in the cache dept once people realized that the stripper models are used as Taxis in Germany and other countries.

More then likely another plant will be consolidated here with its product down the road. I'm also guessing that EV versions of ICE products like the Bronco will move here next decade

I've seen 2 crowns, but it was down in VA on 95. Don't recall seeing any of them locally.

I'm going to assume Canadian workers are cheaper then UAW employees in the payroll dept too.

From what I understand it’s on sale in Europe already. The Fiat 500 is DOA in North America, since the gas version never sold either. Smallest product in the US that would sell is something a little bigger then the Bolt-like Trax or Trailblazer which are short C or large B products.

From what I recall Ford pays a portion of pay and the rest of it is made up by unemployment, but this is based on US workers. Plus skilled trades will still be working at the plant also.

Having a cheaper product wouldn't effect Ford nearly as much-they don't have much under the Escape product wise and they have ICE/HEV products to offset profits from other EV products. Can see the Model 2 making a dent in 3 sales in other parts of the world where smaller cars are more popular.

Getting it right and making money on it are two different things. Apparently the new benchmark is EVs have to be profitable after a year of production, going by Fords comments. Given how the economy and market demand is, to launch a product early just for it flounder in the marketplace isn't the best course of action. I get your in a shitty position, but blowing up about it in every single post isn't going to fix or change it.

The annoying thing I've been experiencing in my area is people who have zero patience when a light turn greens. I'll be at a light with 2-3 cars in front of me, The light changes green and I hear someone honking from behind me when the people haven't even gotten their foot off their brakes to start going in front of me. I'm blaming the people who come from NYC for that, but we've always had immigration from that area, but its something that just started happening after COVID started.

We already argued that point...that information is being collected by the OBFCM https://green-driving.jrc.ec.europa.eu/JRCmatics_Monitoring_Fuel_Consumption_from_OBD Which collects the following: It doesn't matter if its being driven 250 or 50 miles because it is still showing a large difference between what it should be getting going by testing. If someone isn't plugging in their car or as much as they should, the total use of fuel will be higher.

I'm not sure that would have been a wise idea, given how Rivian has performed. Not sure a Lincoln version of the current products they offer would have really moved the needle for Lincoln.

What are you talking about? https://climate.ec.europa.eu/document/download/b644dafe-1385-4b56-98d9-21e7e9f3601b_en?filename=report.pdf It just seems like that peoples biases are coming through without actually reading what the report says and the information in it.

Your the one introjecting your political view into this...all it is showing is that PHEVs aren't showing in the real world as big of an improvement as they should when it comes to reducing CO2 emissions from vehicles. When then begs the reason, why spend extra on PHEV if your not going to use it?

My brother in law and former sister in law used to own a Nissan Quest that was called Millennium Falcon

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/a30173251/ford-mustang-shelby-gt500-acceleration-testing/ Faster 0-60 and off .4 second and 18 MPH in 1/4 mile

They don't-I was taking issue with adding a hybrid to large truck would automatically make it so much more efficient when things like the F-150 powerboost show it really doesn't make a huge impact like it does in other products that are smaller/lighter and use a CVT. Its the application of scale-larger vehicles are going to need a bigger motor and larger batteries, which in turn add more weight, which impacts performance and FE, amoung other things. I also think if it made that big of an improvement. manufactures in the HD market would be rolling it out sooner then later.

https://nypost.com/2024/04/08/business/teslas-cybertrucks-were-rushed-out-are-malfunctioning-at-astounding-rate/

That is a bit of a leap there The market in general has many different issue, with the biggest being pricing and interest rates along with the general feeling of uncertainty with the economy. With inflation cutting into peoples buying power, people are finally making more prudent purchasing decisions. Plunging Pickup Truck Sales Threaten Detroit’s Profit Engine Then add in the uncertainty with consumers and EVs, the early adaptors won't have an issue, but people who are on the fence are going to be harder to convince, are you going to buy something that might have a 300-400 mile range in 20 minutes 2-3 years after you buy one? The EV market needs to mature more before people become comfortable in buying them. Hopefully the charging infrastructure still grows even as EV demand softens over the next few years to help mitigate that issue.

the US is more or less energy independent from the rest of the world at this point.

The problem is that you have all that extra weight in the engine block that isn't necessary for gas engine due to the lower compression ratios. I'd also venture to guess that the setup for the heads for a Diesel and Gas engine could be quite different also, depending on what they use.

CVT don't work for towing applications like this engine would be required to be doing...that is my response to that. It might work in a light duty application, but it won't for vehicle that needs to tow or haul things.

I'm guessing the "headlights" are the tall light bars on the side of the fascia? It looks weird.

Given the fact that hybrids don't really improve gas mileage in larger engines, I don't think that is going to happen anyways.

Because the data being collected actually shows when the vehicle is actually charged https://green-driving.jrc.ec.europa.eu/JRCmatics_Monitoring_Fuel_Consumption_from_OBD