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Someone needs to put gramps in a home already!

I guess the mullet will also be roaring back into fashion in 2008. Kidding...I really do like the new Camaro...good to see it back.

Sorry, I misunderstood your use of smilies. I thought they were implying "fanboy" with the cheerleading.

^^ Why hasn't this guy been banned yet? Ruel24 made a great, thoughtful post...and DaFool posts a third grader response. Members like that wouldn't last past five posts on other boards.

It does seem like Ford is doing the right thing by cutting fleet sales and increasing retail sales, but it still doesn't make the knife that Toyota is wielding any less dull. I probably should have seen it coming, but just the thought of Toyota surpassing Ford for July sales is depressing. Certain vehicles like the Fusion are doing great, but there is so much that Ford needs right now that it simply doesn't have. Besides the Edge, MKX, MKZ, and D3 refresh, Ford really doesn't have a whole lot coming in the near term. F-Series sales continue to slip, and the improved '07 Silverado and Sierra are just around the corner. They need small cars...and fast. With all the recent talk of continued losses and needing to re-evaluate their product plan AGAIN, it's really starting to make me skeptical whether the Way Fordward and Bold Moves are going to be effective. It's not very reassuring when Ford comes out with a press release a week ago saying they didn't anticipate the effect high gas prices would have on truck sales. Money spent toward the Explorer refresh, as nice as it is, should have been used elsewhere. The Ranger and Focus shouldn't have been let to wither like has been. And there should be a B-car here right now to be battling the Yaris, Fit, and Aveo. It's getting serious...Ford really needs to kick things into high gear.

Cool, but please don't let them carry over the styling from the Australian Fords. There's nothing "bold" about the sheet metal on the Falcon or Fairlane. Make it like the 427 and I'd buy one!

Ahh, gotcha. To the guy that said Ford has no cars and needs to be worried, have you looked at GM lately? GM is long overdue for a new platform to replace the aging W-body, not to mention in dire need of those 6-speed autos they helped co-develop. The Malibu has one of the worst interiors in the midsize market. GM has some great stuff right around the corner, but until then...they have a lot of catching up to do. Ford is positioned fairly well except that the Focus badly needs a refresh. The Fusion is hot, and the Five Hundred will do better once it gets the Duratec 35. The CV is on a limb, but hopefully they can hang on long enough to replace it with something. And then you have the Edge coming this fall...I'd say Ford is in really good shape.

Wait, so the Fusion/Milan/MKZ aren't getting any major refresh until 2012? That's six years away!

Glad I never visit VTEC...that website appears to be full of a bunch of tools.

540 hp?? I don't think so...try 340 hp, Mr. Patrolman.

Chrysler's styling has gone downhill since the LX cars. The Aspen, Jeep Commander, and now this look hideous. I liked Chrysler more back when the Pacifica, Crossfire, and 300 first came out. Everything that has come out / is coming out since then looks like a bad combination of styling cues that don't really belong. Do the ridges really need to be on EVERY Chrysler? The refreshed PT Cruiser looks like the last one, except it received a more feminine front end with two fried eggs for headlights. Now we're reading that Chrysler is dumping into fleets and trying to revive the Employee Discount gimmick. Chrysler is a mess, and Zetsche knows it...which is why he's now trying to put the German-engineering spin on things. This new Sebring is just like the old one...destined for the rental lots. It's not competitive, it looks ugly, gets poorer gas mileage, and has mediocre horsepower. Amazing how fast the story has changed at Chrysler.

In the order I thought of them: 1987-93 Mustang GT 2005-06 Mustang GT 1976-77 Lincoln Mark IV ASC McLaren Mercury Capris 1983-1988 Mercury Cougar / Ford Thunderbird 1967-69 Mercury Cougar Lincoln LS 1969 Boss 429 1961 Lincoln Continental 1974-76 Ford Elite 1986 Lincoln Mark VI LSC Edit: Forgot the Mercury 2003-2004 Mercury Marauder