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Not a frickin' clue. Kinda like GM in 2006.

Just watched him race a mustang at Circuit de la Sarthe (LeMans) a couple years ago.

Is there an echo in here? 😎

With a manual tranny....

Somewhere else they said new nameplate.

Neither of those would fill up an entire factory - they could easily be added to MAP with or without a 3rd shift.

Guess we'll have to wait and see. No point continuing to argue.

But Ridgeline isn't a hybrid. And you're completely ignoring that it would be a new lighter, cheaper platform that would probably replace Maverick as well. The point here is the same as ce1. Cheaper to make, cheaper to sell, higher volume and higher margins.

2 big reasons that make perfect sense. Price and fuel economy. Throw $5k rebate on Ranger and sales would probably double. Price sells. Applying ce1 cost savings to a unibody ICE pickup could easily yield a $5k price reduction and likely higher margins to boot. It wouldn't be much bigger than Maverick just more rugged like bronco sport but with more capability than Maverick with more towing and payload and a larger engine option with the 2.3L plus a hybrid. Ranger hybrid would be lucky to see 26-28mpg. A lighter unibody would likely be in the 35-38 mpg range using the Maverick powertrain. So you'd have a bronco sport style pickup capable of towing 5k+ with a 1500 lb payload and a hybrid option getting 38 mpg starting at $32k with higher trims and bigger engines available. Keep Maverick on the low end but move it to the same platform. Keep Ranger too if the factory space isn't needed for Bronco for those who want BOF. And being unibody this would essentially be c3 for ICE crossovers too. I just think the potential cost savings of this new platform is the ticket for Ford to increase volume with more affordable vehicles and increase margins at the same time. Same thing they're doing with CE1. May not happen but you can't say it's a bad strategy.

They sold 155k Mavericks vs 71k Rangers last year. I think Ranger is tapped out as far as sales at a reasonable profit margin. But a unibody ranger that can be sold for $5K less and at a higher margin and double the volume makes all the sense in the world if they can pull it off. Nothing else makes sense to me for a "new affordable pickup"

iI thought they already revealed the RTR Mustang

That's already happening with the demise of the supercab. If they aren't expanding Bronco sales then they'll probably keep Ranger. But if the new affordable pickup is a unibody that's $5k cheaper then it's expendable.

It will keep you from having a flat on the side of the road and ruining your wheel. Last I checked you can't check your pressure with a gauge going 70.

I give them a a pass to a certain point because governments around the world including ours were threatening and planning to make ICE illegal within a very short timeframe. There were screwups in the execution of those plans and they are responsible for that.

Agreed. I think they're still on two shifts.

Per JD Power Toyota has 162 problems per 100 vehicles in the first 3 years for 2022 models. That's more than 1.5 per vehicle. Ford is at 2 per vehicle (tied with Honda). That means 1 or 2 dealer visits for both. Toyota's quality is not what it used to be and others have improved dramatically. There isn't much difference outside of the top 2 and bottom 2.

But but I thought GM's EV plan was perfect and Ford was the only one that screwed up?

Hey Robert - local auto museum has a shelby exhibit. Pretty cool stuff. 1966 Shelby Mustang GT350 Fastback, On loan from The American Muscle Car Museum 1966 Shelby AC Cobra MKIII 427 Roadster, On loan from The American Muscle Car Museum 1967 Shelby Mustang GT500, On loan from The American Muscle Car Museum 1983 Dodge Shelby Charger, On loan from The American Muscle Car Museum 1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS, On loan from Larry and Rachelle Weymouth 1989 Dodge Shelby Dakota Pickup, On loan from The American Muscle Car Museum 1999 Shelby Series 1 Roadster, On loan from The American Muscle Car Museum 2013 Ford Mustang Shelby GT 500 Super Snake Coupe, On loan from Rickey & Pat Stone Collection, Calhoun, GA 2022 Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 Heritage Edition, On loan from The American Muscle Car Museum

MCM?

You can keep Maverick's styling but on a new cheaper platform and make a different top hat with bolder more truck like styling with more power,payload and towing to replace Ranger.

Pretty much. I think you can keep Maverick styling as a street truck but have a more aggressive design for more hardcore truck buyers.

Of course they do. Remember all the folks they hired from tesla, apple, google, etc? This and gigacasting should easily be adapted to ICE.

I'm not saying a unibody Ranger replacement would do everything, just that it would do enough for 80% of buyers. I could easily see a 5k lb tow rating compared to 7k for ranger. And it only makes sense to kill ranger if they have new bronco variants that would at least replace Ranger volume.

That's exactly what I said.

Possible but I think a 4wd dakar rally inspired mustang with a Predator blown v8 is more likely and matches the sillouette shown earlier.