jeff355

That may be true, but the original post asks about the 5.0L, not ecoboost or diesels. Thats a whole nother debate !

If you are thinking of a 5.0L Coyote , dont think twice- It is the best engine ever put in an F150 IMO and gets no marketing whatsoever. Ive had old 5.0s, 5.8s, 5.4s, 5.4 3valves and this engine is better, is good on fuel, revs like a chevy, and has a sound that an ecoboost just cant beat ! Twin turbo 6cyl in my truck ? Never. Let me know how that works out after your warranty is up. Trucks are supposed to have a v8.

I cant tell you what kind of profit they could make right now, but a redesign was overdue 10 years ago... Some of the profits since 1982 or 83 to present maybe should have paid for it. Im sure the tooling had paid for itself 100 times over. The point is they are making a mistake leaving a segment that they once owned and could again with some forethought.

Agreed ! The only reason the small pickup market has dried up is the selection sucks across the board. I guess Ford is ok with just handing the market to someone else like with the Freestar/Windstar or Crown Vic/ Lincoln. They've got enough customers and sales I guess..... IMO - going to another "station wagon" shaped vehicle is not an option for even compact truck customers. We just hold on to them longer. Crossover = todays station wagon, and quite frankly I wish someone would start to trend away from that look.

Is this the first shot over the bow for our 2012 caw negotiations? Its aimed at Chrysler, but Im sure Ford and GM will jump on the bandwagon... My link

Oh how I hope this happens... 2 years and counting on layoff !

Roggie, my best wishes go out to you and your brothers and sisters up in St Thomas. Im laid off(almost 2yrs) from EEP in windsor and know how it feels. I think some of you guys are right on the money saying WTF, we gotta ratify this deal and the next day, a billion in profits ? Thats fuc**d, what was the rush? Caw/Ford in bed on this for sure... Just hope we get some of this work promised in windsor this being the 3rd time we"ve had to vote to get the same work promised a couple years back. :finger:

For myself, I only get 3 weeks vacation. Since 2 are locked in for summer shutdown, I have to give up the only week I get to pick each year? Id also like many others rather have 2 tier, in STAP and at the Windsor site, with the amount of people on layoff, they wouldnt get to utilize it anyway. I see nothing positive in this for the Windsor site so unless Buzz lays a golden egg for us on Sunday, it will be a NO vote from me.

Anyone else but me think there pushing it through quickly so they can hire new employees for OAC under the new agreement? I know Im not giving up my 3 weeks vacation that my senior brothers and sisters fought hard for in the past without a fight! I wonder if 6 more months of bargaining could help us give up a little less...

Anyone know when Flex Job 1 is? When can we expect it in dealerships? I know you can order them now but when are we gonna see them on the lot? Its just my opinion but hopefully they dont stall it like the Edge launch. Alot of people are asking about them, myself included. In my opinion, I think its gonna be a winner anything outside of a "crossover" (stationwagon) will be a welcomed change. There all starting to look the same- something different will attract attention, and love it or hate it, at least it looks more like a truck.

I worked there, and we've been hearing since last shutdown that they were planning a 5L V8 in low volume for the plant. Originally it was just for the mustang, but lately the rumors are mustang first, starting with 1 shift, then a couple variations for the truck and maybe some australia engines for a second shift. (300/600) I can tell you this, they've been working in there and the v8 crank area is in the process of been retooled now. The Cncs had to be shipped out and returned for the new operations. Dont know the timeline but hopefully its soon. By the time its ready, the EAP will be closed and who knows how many - if any jobs will be gained. Im hoping some of us can get back to work. We'll see what happens Monday...

I have over 10 years and Im off, with this latest news, I may never be back. Unfortunatley many more brothers and sisters may join me. Sept 97 senority. PS: Global economy doesnt seem to be benefiting myself or any of us- Whose great idea was that? Sorry- just venting! :finger: to anyone who was a yes vote for free trade, worked out well didnt it?

Another hit for us Ford of Windsor workers. Please offer me another buyout package so I can take it this time. It looks like Im never going back to work for Ford.Windsor star

Id like to thank all employees of EEP for a job well done thoughout the years ! Im a Hot Test/Buyoff operator on the carousel and as I bought-off that last engine Friday at 2:25 pm - I couldnt help feeling sad that it has come to this point but greatful for all the good people and friends I met though the years and I wish all of you good luck in the future. Who knows, maybe Ford Motor Co. will wake up and realize that we workers are not why this plant is closed, its management not having the foresight to deliver new fresh product to the customers in a timely manner that got us here in the first place ! Maybe if we are lucky, one of the many new products that Ford Mo Co desperately needs to compete could be built here at EEP. I cant think of a better group of people who are up for the challenge of making a new and improved Ford Motor Co. Thanx again to all, sincerely, Jeff T. :shades:

Ok, dont get your panties in a knot. You may be right about it being an 8200lb pkg, I will look for my window sticker and see what it says. I know its got a heavy duty pkg and Ill post it for you to see and we will find out just how much of an EXPERT you are. Also the avalanche wasnt heavy duty enough for my needs. The F150 was more heavy duty and better suited to my new trailer. Also I thought, why not give one a try, the price was right. I forgot to say in 95 I bought a new Mustang GT and that car was good to me. In 2000 I bought a Taurus, it was OK too. Dont flap your gums cause I had a few NON FORD trucks, I still did my part what about you? Try to keep an open mind and go drive a couple of the other brands... To F250: its the pads causing the dust... Yeah pads along with the junk ROTORS, that why you have to replace the rotors with the pads when you do a brake job. You d know that if you ever tried to have Ford rotors turned.

All I know is if the F150 gets a diesel- I will get that truck. To be BOLD-- lets do it first before the GMs and Dodges do it.

Company still in the shitter, and we give this guy a million dollar reward ? For what? What in hell has he done? Lost more market share? Give him a bonus in a couple years IF we"re still around. The people running the show here are a bunch of clowns, that HAS GOT TO CHANGE !

I work at Essex engine plant, anyone hearing any rumors/rumblings as to whats happening? Im getting pretty tired of working 1 or 2 weeks a month. Hope there is some good news on the horizon, its getting depressing around here...

As for the seats, its more the material and overall shape that irks me. Try putting something on them(bag of fast food, grocery bag, cell phone etc) and turning a corner- your stuff flys off into the door jamb. Radio on low during test drive. Id rather listen for engine or drivetrain noises on a test drive- they are much more important then tunes, and as for the ride... I knew it was rough but thought I could live with it. I can for now because I use the truck to tow a 26' TT and then its much better with a load. Maybe they could soften the ride a bit. Thanx for the tip about the programmers, Ive been looking into the EDGE programmer to tweak shift points and stuff to my liking. I also may look into the ceramic pads. Im not ready to get rid of it yet, Ill give it some time and hopefully everything will work out as it breaks in. I work for Ford and expected a little much I guess.

Of course I test drove it. These are things you dont notice in a 1/2 hr test drive, just some observations after a few months of living with the vehicle. About the only thing I noticed right away was the lazy shifting. On a positive note, I love the steering feel and the quietness of the cab and it doesnt hurt it was the least expensive of the big three full size crew cab 4x4 trucks ! By the way GT40- if your Dads truck has no brake dust- he hasnt driven it since last time he washed it ! They ALL do it.

After driving Chevy trucks forever, and working for Ford for the last 11 years- I decided to give a Ford pickup a shot. I bought a 2006 F150 4x4 Super-Crew, 5.4 xlt, trailer tow, posi, 3.73 rear 6.5 box. I get all kinds of complements on my truck compared to my last few Chevs, last one being an 04 Avalanche. After having the truck for a few months, now I can honestly say I wish I had the Avalanche back. Before you guys jump all over me let me tell you some reasons why. Gas mileage, not as good, engine noisy,lacks power, transmission shifts lazily- too smooth, feels like it slipping until it drops into OD, seats in my XLT are cheap and flat-no support, I have the 9200lb payload pkg(heavy duty) and the truck rides like your stting in the back of a school bus, BRAKE DUST ! I know everyone here knows about this- what are they using for rotors recycled dodges? Even the radio stinks. Now I know what youre gonna say, your too fussy, those arent big deals its a truck not a car. Well I work for Ford and I expect better out of our products. Its sad to say but everyday I get in that truck, I wish I still had that Chevrolet. I tried to do the right thing for all of us, now I know this will probably be my last Ford truck. The great looks can only carry it so far. Cmon Ford- be bold give me a deisel in the F150 and I may consider another, if not I see another Chev in my near future.

Yeah, Ford F150 #1 in sales? I dont think so! I guess if you get technical... If you combine Chevy and Gmc truck sales they smoke Ford ! They are the same truck underneath. My next truck will be another Chev.