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The Taurus had a great month as well!!! Do we know the number of regular Expy''s and EL Expy's Ford is selling? Cause a post above has listed Yukon and Yukon XL.

In a motorhome, fuel mileage decreases with speeds over 60. To achieve the best fuel mileage witha 6.8 V10, maintain speed between 55-60.

Hey man, Thanks for the response. I see your point with the 6.7 Diesel and fuel mileage at higher speeds. I don't understand how that problem can be solved since the faster you go, the more fuel the engine will consume. Not only that but if a 6.7 Diesel is put on the F53, then most RV manufactures will most likely add more weight to the chassis... hmeaning heavier frames, higher quality wood finishings, etc. Also, I would think the Diesel would call for a stronger chassis over the current 18,000 and 22,000lbs chassis that are currently used for the Class A gas motorhomes. Diesel maintenence also costs more and when one knows nothing about tending to a Diesel engine, such as myself, that would pose a problem. I'd like to see, as you orignally said, a new big block Gasoline engine for the gasser enthusiats and the 6.7 Diesel to please the Dieselers such as yourself. One of the main reasons I will never consider a Diesel engine is mainly because I know nothing about tending to a Diesel engine and after helping my dad when working on gasoline engines for several years, I started to learn about them. Plus the added maintenence cost of Diesels and the extra price. Plus, I'd put no more than 5,000 a year on my motorhome. Anything more than 5,000 a year then a gasser is not the way to go. If you purchase a diesel and put less than 5,000 a year, I would consider that a terrible investment. It all depends on what you can afford and how much you will use it. I saw a youtube video for MHSRV (Motorhome Specialist), the video was about a Coachmen Class C and one person asked if Coachmen RV is considering using the Transit chassis, much similar to the Sprinter chassis. The manager from Coachmen said that Ford has said the Transit chassis will only be 10,200 (I think that is right) where the current Sprinter chassis is 11,200 (I think that is right). So as of right now, the Eseries will continue for the Class C segment. So like you, I'm also wondering what Ford will do. I'd like to see them continue to be the leader in the Class C segment and Class A gas motorhomes, with introducing the Diesel for the Diesel enthusiats. As for the 6.2 growing into a 7.0 or 7.5, is Ford selling enough of the 6.2 in the F150 or Super Duty that would benefit them to continue further developing that engine? I wish there was a way to see how many 6.7's and 6.2's they sell. Thanks for the talk. I appreciate it.

Hello! The 6.7 Scorpion diesel, although a great engine, would defeat the purpose as it would drive the price up another $10,000-15,000 which is getting in the Diesel Pusher range (those are Cummins and Maxxforce Diesels). Plus, the gassers sell more and are more affordable. I understand what you are saying though... But on budget camping, I'd go for the gasoline powered coach and pocket the extra $$$$ to spend on more trips. Read post 31 and then some http://www.irv2.com/forums/f23/v10-maximum-size-of-rv-131699-3.html Back to what was discussed on the IRV2 forums, the 5.0 EB could benefit the Class A gas motorhome BUT someone stated that it would be under constant stress as 30 feet Class A gassers are 14,500-16,000 and the 37' gassers are nearly 19,000 lbs and a little more. I'd to see an attempt with the 5.0 and see what happens. If not a 5.0 EB, there has got to be away for Ford to do something with that 6.2 V8 to get the torque equal to or greater than the 6.8 V10. 6.2 in F150 411 hp and 434 lbs torque 6.2 in Super Duty 385 hp and 405 lbs torque 6.8 V10 362 hp and 457 lbs of torque The 6.2 in the F150 beats the 6.8 in power but does not equal the torque and in a motorhome with a huge heavy butt, you need all the torque you can get to climb that steep grade. Hope this post did not turn you away, I just love talking motorhomes... epesically with Ford engines!

I wonder what they will use in the F-53 chassis for the Class A gas motorhomes?

Hey Arizona Mike, I see what you are saying. Do you pull a toad? I like the Winnebago's but I'm not a fan of the Via/View... Those floor plans do not enlighten me, if you understand. Finding the right floor plan that fits your needs is the make or break deal with purchasing a motorhome or a trailer. But, I hope you can have a blue oval on the steering wheel in a few years

I think what you mean is gas vs. diesel. Not because it's as Sprinter, but because it's a diesel. The Transit will not perform well in the 32 foot Class C gas coaches since it's power train will not likely match the 305 hp and 420 lbs of torque. While for the Winnebago Via/View which is exclusively built on the Sprinter chassis, thats fine and the Transit can compete with that. However, such as the Aspect/Access, the power trains from the Transit will most likely not be enough to move them, as the Sprinter's power train is not. I'd like to see Ford stay in the larger Class C segment and the Class A gas, Ford is currently the only supplier of the gas chassis for the Class A and for the larger Class C.

I wonder what Forest River, Monaco, Holiday Rambler and the rest of the Class C gas motorhome manufacuers are going to do? As far as I know, the Transit's power trains will not match the E-series 6.8 V10 which produces 305 horsepower with an outstanding 420 pounds of torque which is what motorhomes need. What will Ford do? They can't just abandon that segment as they lead it and would probabley like to keep it. The 5.0 and 6.2 are not answers either.

If the MKT really stands for Town Car, then that pisses me off. I've seen an MKT limo and I thought it was ugly... But I'm biased because I think the MKT is an ugly car. The MKS would look good as a limo but the model is going to be replaced in 1.5-2 years and I don't think that would make sense from a buisness perspective to purchase it when you know a replacement is on the way, unless you are trying to save money.

I had a 1999 Ranger with the well respected 3.0 Vulcan V6. That was a good engine and it was well used throughout the Ford fleet such as in the Taurus/Sable, Aerostar, Windstar. This engine ended production in 2007 for the Taurus and 2008 for the Ranger. This left the aging and dirty 4.0 Cologne V6 and the aged 2.3 4 cylinder. Ford should have replaced all three engines in 2005 a updated 2.3 4 cylinder (The Ranger's 2.3 produced 143hp while the same engine produced 160 hp in the Fusion). Both V6's should have been replaced with the 3.0 V6 or two years later with the 3.5 V6. I think those would have boosted sales but the main problem was all the competion had larger compact trucks that were redesigned/updated. While the Ranger stayed true to it's class, it's competion did not and the Ranger suffered.

Have not seen a MKZ on the road yet but I did stop by our Mazda dealer to check out the Fusion based, Lincoln based Mazda 6. Would a sporty Fusion compete with Mazda 6?

One dealer by me has 19 MKZ's another dealer about 20 miles further has 17 MKZ's. I reckon it depends on where you live and which dealers place orders first.

Not impressed at all with the 2.0 in the Taurus? Do you expect it to be a sports car? The 2.0 ecoboost produces more torque than the 3.5 V6 and the main reason for the Ecoboost 4 cyl is for fuel economy. My dad and I test drove the Taurus and we thought it moved the vehicle really well. The 2.0 in the Taurus is no slouch, but it's not great... It doesn't need to be. Also, the same 2.0 ecoboost 4 cylinder is in the Explorer which weighs 500 pounds more than the Taurus.

Back up camras are nice on Class A and Class C motorhomes. Back up camras are nice on vehicles, a family friends 2013 Taurus has one. I have to strain my neck when I look behind me. More so now, I just use the mirrors. Also a plus for a back up camra is to make sure no one is behind you. My mom is only 4'9 and the rear of a F350 4x4 is taller than she is... Looking behind you with a mirror, you could not see her or a small child, or even the neighbors dog. Point being, back up camras are nice. I wish my 2009 Focus would have one, same for the 05 Five.

Well, realistically speaking, if you are in the market for a motorhome, fuel economy is the least of your worries. However, one thing that scares me about the ecoboost motors is that Ford says they are good for up to 10 years or 150,000 miles. Many gas coaches are well over 10-20 years old and some of them have 150,000+ on them. Is Ford only saying that dwindle any law suits if the engine underperforms and dies out at 175,000 miles? The 5.0 is a good motor and would benefit the Class A gas motorhome segment.

I would buy from MHSRV. I watch their youtube vids quite frequently and they seem friendly and willing to work. I would consider a Monaco LaPalma 30SBD or the Newmar BayStar 2901 floorplans. They don't have those models in stock but when I someday get in the RV market, I would most likely go for either floor plan as they are similar.

if you have noticed, more Class C motorhome manufactueres use the Ford E-series for their 32 foot RVs. http://coachmenrv.com/products/freelander.aspx?page=floorplans Notice how the larger 32 footers are on the Ford Chassis while the Chevrolet are not. That is because the Ford produces 305 hp and 420 lbs or torque while the Chevrolet produces 324 hp and only 373 lbs or torque. When climbing a steep grade, torque is what you need and the V10 handles the job better. While the Vortec does a good job, the V10 produces more torque for the job needed. Another reason is the Ford chassis is stronger than the Chevrolet.

I want to run him over with a 2013 Lincoln MKZ. His article is pointless and people like him should be nowhere near the auto industry.

Hi borg! I saw an MKT the other day in a parking lot and it was red. Got to admit, it looked pretty slick. The only thing I'm not a fan of with the MKT is how the 2nd row passenger doors and windows suddenly go up and back. I've not heard anything about a Lincoln Explorer but shortly before Ford announced Mercury's death, Mercury was supposed to get the 2012 Ford Focus which would be a Mercury Tracer... Since Mercury's death, I heard rumors about a Lincoln Focus... You hear something like that? I still think the MKS looks nicer than the MKZ but I'm biased towards full-size sedans.

Nice ride Borg. Did you ever consider the MKS or MKT?

We think alike... Smoked Quartz looks freakin' slick on a Lincoln... I hope they keep that color. Saw an MKTaurus in Smoked Quartz.... loved it!

Correct me if I am wrong.. The F-series chassis is the 18.5 and 22.5 series for the Class A gas motorhome homes and the boxed trucks?

hope the MKC comes with the Smoked Quartz color.

Noob question here. Do we know what powertrain options this vehicle will come with? I've heard the 2.0 Ecoboost.

Hey bud :D I can't wait to see the new Naviagor... I saw the current model on the road today and it's just blah.. It's not bad but it's not great either... It's just blah. I don't really know how to describe it other than saying blah. I loved the model it replaced and the original Navigator but the current one does not appeal to me. While the current MKX is a rebadged Edge, I do like the MKX's smoked quartz color. The MKS is nice looking but like the MKX, it resembles it's Ford counterpart. Lincoln hit a home run with the MKC and MKT because they are based on the Escape and Flex but look nothing like them.. A whole different vehicle... And lets hope they can continue that streak with the MKX and MKS.