CKNSLS

As I stated before-it's the styling. Those on here can make excuses all day long-but that thing isn't selling because of the way it looks. Even some of the more "polarizing"designs (Hyundai Kona, Palisades, etc.,) are selling. I predicted a free fall on sales for the Escape over two months ago.

My post was referring to Chinese badged vehicles.

I have no doubts if Geely (or any other Chinese auto manufacturer) started selling cars here-if they were priced right (much lower than people could buy a comparable "American" model). IMHO-that would have to be about $10,000.00.

The unique thing about the Telluride/Palisades is they are having conquest sales among a whole range of new CUV/SUV buyers. Those considering, Tahoe, Explorer, and some high end European marques. Especially among those who could care less about BOF and towing capabilities.

We do not know how profitable they are or are not. The fact is combining the Interceptor numbers in to retail numbers was done for a reason-because Ford purposely wanted to "cloud" the numbers.

Ford combining the Interceptor sales in to the regular models really doesn't help. Some would conclude they are trying to hide the "real numbers". As a matter of fact-many on here said that was indeed the case. I believe on another discussion-a member said "because the stand-alone-numbers were being used against them."

Gee...I remember the ad campaign for the Ford Escort when it came out. Ford advertised it as a "World Car". Because the car was around in one iteration or another in different markets.

The issue being is that if you dig deep enough you would probably find similar accusations from parts manufacturers located in China that are used in other brands of vehicles. So-be careful about casting stones.... It's part of doing business in China.

The "take rate" on manuals are less than 5% when they are/were even offered-so the numbers speak for themselves. A Corolla, or like automobile will sit for months next the exact same model with an automatic transmission.

The Escape is a better vehcile in many respects than the old one-except in looks. It's ugly.

I just paid $2.05/gal for gas. I know its even cheaper elsewhere-this is a tough road for all hybrids-with these cheap gas prices.

Nobody except those on a car forum wants a manual transmission-clutch or no clutch.

You could have easily referenced the 3 rd generation Taurus. "The oval disaster"....... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Taurus_(third_generation)#/media/File:96-97_Ford_Taurus.jpg

At the end of June Cars Direct reported there were barely 700 Tellurides listed for sale nationwide while there were over 20,000 Ford Explorers and 12,000 Honda Pilots on dealers’ lots. When the Telluride debuted in February 2019, Kia set an annual production capacity of 60,000 Tellurides at its only U.S. production facility in West Point, Georgia, where certain trims of the Sorento and Optima are made as well.. “We blew past that and ramped it to 100,000 units,” Bell told The Car Connection. Meeting demand “is going to be tight even at 100,000, but it’s the best we can do.” https://jalopnik.com/kia-vastly-underestimated-demand-for-the-telluride-suv-1844293702 I'm expecting the new Escape to go down in flames/sales wise. And with the Explorer we will never really know now the the Police Interceptor isn't broken out. But Kia has a good problem-if you are going to have problems.

Yep-and that's exactly what wrong with it. A vehicle made to appeal to at least two groups of previous car buyers....and it really doesn't do it well.

So-yes you are saying they are correct on the NVH. I'm going to say it now-the new Escape is a horrible vehicle....just horrible. Ford really messed up on this one. It's like the "Oval Taurus" of it's day...only arguably worse.

Let's see payload amounts before we get excited about towing figures. Will the "generator" lead to conquest sales-a few-but many already have the little Hondas and won''t buy a new truck over leaving the Honda Generator at home. What will be interesting is to see the package that includes the generator capability-will it be more than a small Honda generator? I'm thinking yes.... The RAM still has the nicer interior IMHO.

It's evolutionary for the faithful-nothing ground breaking for conquest sales........

Yea right. Look at Ford's March rental fleet sales and get back to me..........

Isn't this the third best selling CUV in it's segment? They are not all sub-prime buyers.

This is a valid point. The thing is that Toyota could make a big dent in the market if they wanted to. They are in a good position to lay as much "cash on the hood" as it takes-but they appear (for whatever reasons) not interested.

They are going to sell a ton of these if they remain in business...................

Maybe staying in the 5 passenger CUV segment means badge engineering the VW Atlas Sport!

It is a "rental grade interior" at least in this trim model. Exterior is uninspiring. Final verdict-a vehcile made to appeal to three product segments-that doesn't do an adequate job of appealing to one.