ironhorse

There is no profit in the car for the dealer,and the programs are not competitive for the consumer. The Focus is a better deal for both dealer and consumer.

Niche sometimes works with very low volume cars...not mini-van replacements. Hopefully Ford will learn their lesson.

Polarizing and niche is code for... baboon ass ugly. That was the problem with the Flex from the start.

Those are some beauties..Along with these.......

The person that approves the wheel design for Ford should be fired on the spot. For has some of the ugliest looking wheels in the industry up and down the Fseries line.

NASCAR got toobig for their britches,got drunk with cash,and tried to gain more "fans" by alienating the true fans...now they are getting what they deserve.

They should have re-named the Focus... They are hesitant paying a premimum price for a "Focus"...the US consumer is very fickle that way.

With all due respect...you gotta be kidding me. The vehicle drives great,however the main problem with this vehicle is the look. It is Ford's Aztec. There is not enough lipstick to make this thing sell.

This is the conundrum that the majority of the dealers are in...The rental allowance reinbursement is very small,and does not include taxes...an Enterprise Lincoln loaner costs more than Ford is willing to reinburse....most dealers eat the difference if they can afford it.

How about Ford develop a budget sedan for Rural America?

A lot of rural dealers have not gotten their fair share of the vehicle. Many Fiestas have had LONG shipping delays.

Hey, sewer rat may tast like pumkin pie,but I'd never know cause I'd never eat the filthy Mother

it's like taking a pig,and putting lipstick on it and a designer dress,and giving it an ipad...it's still a pig.

This is NOT a Federal issue. There are laws already on the books for reckless driving ...why do we need more laws?

We've already have local laws that can be enforced to handle distracted drivers...it's called reckless driving. If you are in an accident and proven you were distracted by a cell phone,you can be held liable in civil court and in criminal court.....This is just another Federal Government over-reach not sanctioned by the U.S. Constitution.

You were stating that Ford was somehow disingenuous when they state that their resale value is as good or better than the imports...I personally think your Acura friend is shorting your car at least 2K to convience you that imports have better resale. The imports resale is on par or less than the domestics in today's environment.. Ford Vehicles resale is higher than most volume imports...that has been proven to you.

NADA Trade in comparo: (15,000 miles) 2010 Toyota Camry LE 4 cyl. $15,025 2010 Ford Fusion SE 4 cyl. $15,450 What's your point again? FWIW...a Fusion Hybrid's average auction value is many thousands more than the Camry Hybrid.

Two 427 Cobras in the same auction...WOW!

I liked the Messenger also.

Here is the catalogue. Link: http://viewer.zmags.com/publication/55b81963#/55b81963/1

Jack Kain is one of the best Ford dealers in the country. He's one of the guys in the business I really admire...if he tells you it's gonna rain,you better bring your umbrella.

I sold a milan with a cloth top a couple of weeks ago...I personally didn't like it,but the CUSTOMER did. :hyper:

Leases are risky things for the lessor...I have an in-house leasing company and it is always a fine line in being competitive in front, and losing your ass at lease-end. The Fseries has a long track record on residual value history,but with such volume the F-series has,if the residual is wrong just by a percent or 2,the losses could be huge at lease end. Ford will run some lease programs on Fseries models from time to time,but with inventory low,why should they? The Flex has no residual history,or sales volume to judge...but I predict the real residual values on the Flex in 36-48 months will justify my prediction.

Sometimes everyone lays an egg,Deanh...the Flex is a dud...the only thing that can get volume nationally is to rebate,and subsidize it to the point where we force the sale. I really don't know how much money it would take to move the Flex in any volume. "Lack of a lease program" is usually an excuse for an un-competitive vehicle. There is a reason there is not a program on the Flex...the residual value is too abysmal,to cover with a subsidy. There are niche buyers for the Flex. With all due respect,our attitude is great... I am just stating an honest opinion based on my experience.

Flex...too expensive and baboon ass ugly.