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Is this the Lexus version of the Crown?

I pretty much only use my screen for CarPlay and google maps but even then I can’t imagine going from a 12” screen to phone and trying to look at the map. id like to see ford incorporate some of what slate is doing though. The plastic body panels seem like they would be a good fit for off-road vehicles like bronco. If it breaks, just take it off and replace it with another. That has to be much cheaper than metal panels. Also the ease of adding parts is nice. Just need a screw driver. Imagine changing your grille or the color of your interior by just screwing some new parts on.

I’m just not seeing the value. With all the cost cutting going on and this thing is still the same price as a maverick? I would have expected it to be much cheaper. If you de-contented the maverick to the same extent as the slate, I’m sure it would be closer to 20k, which is what I feel the slate should start at. At that price, after federal incentives, you'd have a truck for 13k, which at that price would be an instant hit.

I’ll be the first to say that this will fail just like most ev start ups do. A two door mini truck with hardly any creature comforts that most people are used to these days is going to be a hard sell. I don’t see too many buyers looking for roll up windows, no screens, no radio or speakers, and 150 mile range. Of course there’s the 240 mile ranger version, but I’m sure that pushes the price closer to 30k instead of the rumored 25k. It only comes in gray, which is the color of the composite body panels. If you want any other color, you can wrap it. Interesting approach. It saved the company millions by not needing a paint booth, but will customers go for that? Wraps are several thousand dollars right? The modularity is kinda cool and so is the fact that you can add on accessories like power windows or buttons on the steering wheel, all afterwards, but once you start adding up all of those accessories, you are probably getting close to price of a base Mach E (with incentives) which comes better equipped, has more range and looks better. I could see this being popular for businesses though. A bare bones vehicle like this seems right up their alley.

This is up there with the jaguar commercial as one of the dumbest things I’ve seen from an automotive company. Nobody is thinking about “wellness” when buying cars. Just build vehicles that look cool with the features that buyers want. The nautilus is a perfect example.

Thunder was a trim on the Ranger overseas. There’s already the Ranger MS-RT in Europe that looks pretty sweet.

Never seen one of these or their Toyota equivalents on the road. Don’t expect to see them any time soon either

I actually like this. The side profile is different, but in a good way. It will stand out from other SUVs for sure. Hood might be a bit long and the front could be tweaked a little but I don’t think it’s bad as is. I like the upright windshield. I think that works pretty well with the slanted rear.

I think this is much smaller than the maverick. I believe this is about the same size as a bronco sport. It even looks like a bronco sport turned into a truck. The BS is only slightly shorter than the 1st Gen ranger. My guess is this right around 175” give or take a few inches. Bronco Sport - 172.7” 1st Gen Ranger - 175.6” Maverick - 199.7”

This looks much smaller than even the maverick. Design is a bit odd too. As a single cab truck, the Alpha Wolf looks much better and more usable. Maybe this is geared towards fleets?

Eh, its ok. I just don’t like the shape of the grille on the 25’s. There’s something about it that seems off. I feel like the timberline was differentiated a bit more from the regular explorers than this is. Just give us the Everest tremor already!

The body looks like a rivian and a gladiator had a baby. It has a tough, modern military truck vibe. I don’t know what to say about the front. If it looked more like a traditional truck up front, I’m sure they would sell a ton. The interior is already light years ahead of most other midsize trucks. Kia pumps out those refreshes about 5x faster than ford does though so I’m sure that front end will get reworked in a year or two.

Yeah, it will probably be like the early 2000’s stx package that looked like a budget lightning without the flareside bed.

https://www.motor1.com/news/755898/kia-tasman-weekender-concept/ IMO this fixes most of my complaints about the production tasman. The front is still a bit busy but it’s much better. Side and rear look great.

Still such a dumb name

I like the wide body look this and the raptor have. If there was an appearance package on ranger that offered this without spending 60k for a raptor, I’d be all over it.

Also rear legroom in the escape with its sliding seat is a good selling point. Adults can fit back there comfortably. Makes it a good vehicle for families. Bronco sport is super cramped in the back. You might see singles or couples jumping to BS from the escape, but it’s a tough trade for families.

Keep the body the same, remove the snorkel and change the engine to the 2.7 and this is what the ranger tremor should be in my opinion.

The EV4 sedan is horrid and should have never been made for production, however the hatchback is much better looking and I could see it doing quite well. The EV2 is the best of the bunch though.

When I looked up other performance sedans, there wasn’t much out there besides top trims. I don’t think I could name one that isn’t a top trim. We’ve already seen articles where ford was benchmarking the Cadillac black wing, so that is who ford thinks the competition is. Now, they could come in drastically lower in price with a base model, but that’s a tough sell to shell out $45k on a sedan and not get all the bells and whistles. Especially with accord and Camry starting at 28k and fully loaded models are less than $40k. My guess is that ford won’t offer a base trim. I’m thinking the equivalent of the mustang coupe premium trim will be the lowest they go, but still offer both engines. With ford wanting to maximize profits and seeing what the competition is charging, I still don’t see this starting less than $50k. Hope I’m wrong!

if this is true, I really hope it looks something like the e tron GT. This would keep it looking more like a sports car and less like a sedan. A mustang face would look pretty good on that shape.

I don’t have anything against a mustang sedan, I just don’t get the point. Ford moved away from sedans for a reason. Most sport sedans seem to be souped up versions of “regular” sedans. They are also usually luxury vehicles because that’s really the only market that will pay big bucks for a sedan. More affordable sport sedans like the Kia stinger haven’t faired too well. I think you guys are way off on price too. The focus RS would be nearly $50k in today’s dollars. Here are some other sport sedan prices: Civic Type R - $46k CT5-V black wing - $99k CT4-V black wing - $64k integra type s -$54k tlx type s - $59k m3 - $77k Audi rs7 - $130k Corolla GR - $40k panamera - $105k elantra N - $35k I’m guessing starting price would be $50-55k and even higher with the v8. I don’t think there will be many buyers at those prices. I kinda hope Mach 4 doesn’t stand for 4 door. I hope it stands for 4wd and that this is the off road mustang we’ve heard rumors about. That one is even more pointless than the mustang sedan but it would be a lot cooler.

Didnt the Diesel Brothers do something with Nikola? I remember something like they bought the Badger or something like that. I always thought it was a nice looking truck.

Most of the big % changes can be explained. Bronco has the 25’s coming out and the 24’s have some good discounts on them. The Mach e had some pretty big rebates. Maverick has supply issues. Ranger had supply issues last year. The only two I can’t really figure out are the explorer and transit. Explorer just had a refresh with a much improved interior. Whats its issue? Transit with a 45% drop, what’s the deal there?

Are they talking about something crazy like the local motors rally fighter? Or something more sedated like the 911 Dakar?