Bob Rosadini

And add the decision to not offer the 7.3 with an air brake option. Supposedly 7.3 is such a heat generator, air piping would be a problem. I would imagine the Ford Pro Division -or whatever the name "du jour" is-has a "director of excuses".

I forgot about that....back to the pre-2000 era???

Here it is;2023 Ford F-450 Super Duty Chassis Cab XLT_ Photos.html2023 Ford F-450 Super Duty Chassis Cab XLT_ Photos.html

Back to topic, Ford Authority today posts a shot of new 450 chassis test truck set up with heavy weight block. they continue to reference Super Duty .."all new cab". Huh? looks the same to me unless grill work or revised dash constitutes "new cab"?? I will say side glass looks a bit taller but that just may be an illusion. Like to see a new cab that 650-750 and E series could utilize but I'm sure that would not get Farley any good press vs more EV hype?

So much for thinking no. 1 vs no. 4 made sense. ?

AK, I hear you-but if I had to bet I would say his attitude has more to do with jobs-regardless of the ethnicity of those taking "our" jobs. But as my late wife would say...."why do you care???"

Did you see the WSJ article a few days ago? Many chip producers are now faced with a coming surplus??? Recognizing that not all chips are "equal".

Agree 100% that parent's HQ location should be key-but "final assembly" is also key. or should I say "made and assembled in USA" - that benefits far more Americans. But I recognize we live in a world economy and often "assembled in US of domestic and foreign components" is often a trade off. What really pisses me off most?..."Designed, Engineered in US, Made in China". I'm a stockholder in Irwin...they typically post that message on a lot of products..my reaction.." yeah designed here-like 30 years ago!" And I specifically cite "China" as I have no problem with goods for example made in Japan, EU, etc-countries that provide their citizens with the freedoms we enjoy. But China, no way and to say they can be trusted is a stretch IMO.

Uh AK..chill out! My "wokeness meter" is going off the scale... What am I missing? What did Joe '76 say that fit the definition of xenophobic? .....15 yards for unnecessary roughness in this old guys opinion?.....or education please as to what was xenophobic about the post which as I read it, bemoaned the supposed loss of what some deem to be "our" market. I go out of my way to buy "made in USA" for the sake of my grandkids future...does that make me xenophobic?

Hmnn.. assuming they owned the other site, might they be raising some cash to cover whatever the cost is to be an E dealer??..By the way still a single store operation? Same family? If so a vanishing breed.

How about this Ford ad from 1969. What a good idea! Of course today, that wouldn't happen because I'm sure the light truck marketing budget doesn't want any space given to 650/750? "those guys have their own budget"- or some other lame excuse. "One Ford" Big Al...I don't think anyone remembers that.

I'm afraid I would bet on Mr Toyoda rather than Farley. Perhaps he had in the back of his mind while we have this huge push to accelerate BEV's, China is building 30 plus coal fired power plants! Our crash effort will result in how much change vs China's "contribution". as I've said...in due time. PS. Winter in here ....everyone still loving their electric 150's?? Fire away! In my trench with helmet and flak jacket on?

Held up in one lane traffic yesterday as one of areas biggest utility contractors was doing work-probably gas piping.Two newer 450/550 with Utility bodies and 3 new Pete class 7's- 6/8yd dumps sitting there. My guess same axle combos you can get in a 750, 12/21 or 10/23. Good illustration how Ford misses an opportunity with 750. The issue I would say is the lack of an Allison and something other than a Power Stroke in a 750. These Petes will not run a lot of miles during the day-my guess? one is holding broken asphalt/concrete that was removed, one is holding clean excavated material that can go back in the excavation, and one might be holding bedding material for new line, and also two of them probably pulled a tag for the Backhoe and the roller- they sit there as a convenience to make sure the job goes quickly. Perfect job for a less costly 750 vs the high cost Petes. Should be one stop shopping when this contractor goes shopping for trucks, but Ford I guess doesn't meet that need Just an opinion/guess- I never worked for a utility or utility contractor How about it 7M-??

Uh, dual exhaust? The truck shown is NOT a raptor. I would say a high percentage of Gm's and Rams that I see around here have duals.

I'm sure you are correct on the competition-in particular with Hino back in the mix. Watching what goes on at Amazon, at least here in New England, all of a sudden heavy Transits (DRW) started showing up in the Prime delivery fleet. The other day I saw a new Hino-26,000 GVW I'm sure. Had a lift gate. Truck guy at my local Ford dealer does very well but his big bitch is availability. Could be a lot of supply constraints continue and KTP gets priority over OAP??? I continue to question their inability to offer air brakes on 7.3 powered 650/750. Would be a home run IMO given price advantage they would have. Not only price advantage but a lot of guys who buy class 6/7 want air when they are pulling a tag trailer. That I'm sure hurts Ford in many cases

Actually Rick, tankers are the least likely market IMO for the Tesla. Point I made in previous post regarding Pepsico. I would have to believe, the bulk of their 5 axle traffic is full load-either packaged drinks or tankers transporting the "syrup/sugar" that ends up as soda. As Pepsico owns Frito Lay, perhaps that is where the hundred Teslas that they have purchased will end up as that is "cube out" freight rather than "weighout" freight so the Teslas would be a better fit there....and by the way, if I had to bet, I would say the bulk of Frito Lays tractors in the old days were built at KTP. A heavy Louisville was not that big an issue.? As for petroleum for sure not a good fit for any heavy tractor. In round numbers, every 6lbs of tractor weight is one gallon less of gas. And as for tankers, their frontal area is minimal vs. a van freight so there is no fuel saving associated with drag there.

BZCAT, Teamstergrrl Guys, Not sure where you got your info, but I don't think a lot of operators who "cube out" before they "weigh out" are in the target group. For sure Pepsico is NOT one of those. I do believe most of the major beverage producers..note producers, need vehicles that can maximize weight. In the old days production/bottling/canning facilities were numerous and localized. Not so today. Production is done in fewer and larger facilities that feed the finished product distribution sites. And for sure I can't imagine the new Tesla class 8 tractor will be replacing single axle class 6 tractors. As I see it, at this point I view this as more "Green Hype" that corporate types like to display. As the Aussie that JPD referenced, it is BS when you do the hard math. I have wondered about battery weight-shocker if it is 5 tons heavier. Then add up grid charging issues and it will be a long time before battery powered class 8's make real sense. Not arguing about the benefits associated with eliminating transmissions, differentials, cooling systems, or converting a "north/south" driveline to a simple direct "east/west" driveline. Just saying.."In due time".

By the way, anyone know where F-600 sales counted.....? F series or Heavy Truck. Looking at those Heavy Truck numbers I hope 600 is in F totals.

If true, huge mistake IMO. There are plenty of buyers who would STILL buy a conventional cab to say nothing of those who clearly want a Supercab. It seems all the product planners at Ford, GM, Ram drink the same Kool-Aid. And I get it on cost of model proliferation but there is a point where you have to draw the Line. At my old age I've thought of a 150 short bed with a 5.0. My sons of course say I should at least get a supercab so I can haul their kids around?. I've been looking at at 22 Rangers but when I look at the 24 I say I've waited this long, I can wait for that. My 04 FX 4 Level II has been in family since new, always garaged. I have people lined up who want to buy it so....hopefully the '23 run will be a short one. BUT..no super cab?...maybe I'll go crazy and put a 347 crate in the 04!

And I think all the EV's in the world combined won't put a dent in GHG produced by China and India.

Hah-I'm sure you would have?

I'm aware of that. All the more reason why the Explorer launch was IMO a recipe for big problems. I should have said..."either situation runs the risk of problems. Put them together, and risk much greater". Perhaps the 150 conversion was a result of good management at all levels plus a workforce with a good attitude. Example, and a minor one for sure but I remember I had a new CV Sport on order to replace my old one. I did a post on the CV thread saying words to effect..."Hey guys at St Thomas. New CV on order. Build me a good one like last one I had." Immediately got a response.."Post your vin when you get it". I did and to my surprise I got several responses and a note written on inside of trunk lid! So when it came time to replace it, I had an SHO ordered so sent a similar message to "people at CAP".....crickets! On same note, my son had a new Bronco on order-had his hundred bucks in early. so I did a similar post. And guess who responded.."Fuzzy MM"! Employee involvement/concern on the line I'm sure is a tough thing to build in today's environment but it can be done.

A lot of truth here. And as for the new Explorer fiasco, while Joe (?) was the fall guy I remember watching video of the demo of CAP while introducing a completely new vehicle. I kept thinking, one or the other-complete new assembly process or completely new vehicle design --is a recipe for disaster.

Thx In any case you are always a good contributor.

'24? How about it Ice-Capades?