maginty

Yes, I'm still waiting for Ford to offer what the Global Ranger has had for 2 years, 4A transfer case, rear seat vents, and ventilated front seats. Colorado/Canyon offer rear seat vents on 8 trims, ventilated seats on 5 trims, 4A on 6 trims. Toyota offers ventilated seats on 5 trims. With the 2.7 N/A till summer, I'd guess it's a 2025 option, so hopefully Ford will include these 3 features from the start for 2025. They could also offer the auxiliary switches from the Ranger Raptor on XLT, Lariat. Again GM offers auxiliary switches on 6 trim levels. I have long sold my 2018 F150 Lariat and waiting for a midsize to offer features I enjoyed on my fullsize. I was forced to put a 1998 F150 on the road for those few times I actually need to do truck things. So I'll just wait enjoying the much higher interest rate return on my savings.

How times have changed. I ordered my first new vehicle in the fall of 1975, a 1976 F150 Ranger XLT. Base price was $4671.00, total options $4095.80, shipping $279.00 for a total $9045.80. Final assembly was San Jose and shipped by rail. My truck arrived at the rail yard January 6 1976. My dealer owner/salesman drove me in and I picked up my truck and drove back 50 miles to dealership for PDI. Was pretty exciting for a teenager back then.

Thanks, after 33 yrs of Ford only, I bought my first Charger SRT8 new in 2007. We took a road trip west coast to east coast, US side one way, Canada side the other. Was super comfortable, and we had people coming up at gas stations from 10-80yrs old commenting on the looks, some even asking what it was. We liked it so much we bought this new Charger SRT392 in 2015 and have had O problems with either one. I've had this one at the track, bone stock down to tire pressure and ran a 12.8 1/4 mile at 2292 ft elevation. My first one with the 6.1, I had up to 164mph and this one 172mph, just like the old days when vehicles were governed by your right foot. This one has active exhaust that sounds sweet, and enough room in the rear seat for 3 teenage grandkids.

Mine is fairly large and low.

My '18 F150 Lariat 2wd had the same thing. 8 bolts and removed for every winter, put back on in spring, over 4.5 years never damaged it.

I don't know, I do know the GM puts out more hp and torque than the 2.7 Bronco from idle to 4000 rpm, and Bronco has a bit more power than the Ranger. Until we know the tune in the Ranger, it's a guess, and the speed the Ranger rollout has been on, it could be quite awhile, or you know exactly when late availability is? Do you honestly think the Nano 2.7L ecoboost will outperform the Tacoma i-FORCE MAX? How long are you going to keep your head buried in the sand waving the Ford flag when the competition offers so much more than Ranger?

Ventilated seats, rear seat vents, 4 auto available on competitors and global Ranger + in dash pop out cupholders. Plus, GM announced on July 28/22 they were offering 430lbft on reg fuel, and Ford had 10 months knowing what # to beat and they come up with 400 lbft with late availability on the Ranger already 18 months behind. Ford has the Bronco 3.0 with 406hp/440lbft on reg fuel which would have had class leading specs before Tacoma announcement and would still outperform Tacoma with 80 hp advantage. Ford has all this, not something that has to be developed and they refuse to offer it, at least on Lariat trim, and it would be extra profit dollars which I would classify as " just good business"! After waiting too long for the new Ranger, in Nov, I turned to GM to order a '23 Canyon and was told they were building '22s till end of Dec, and '23s starting in Feb '23. The called me early Feb and I priced an AT4 which they said could start build right away, I said ok, then they called back and said the order was held up, unless I agreed to cancel the AT4 premium package, otherwise the build would be held up 5 months or change order to Denali that I initially wanted but it had an extra 1" lift over the standard 2" lift which I wasn't thrilled with to start. Among the many things in the AT4 premium package is heated steering wheel and ventilated seats. To keep my order and get a year old truck in Sept/Oct wasn't happening, so I decided to wait and see what Ranger and Tacoma would offer, and still have the option to order a '24 Canyon if necessary.

I have seen you post here that you would like to move to Ranger but would require a 6' bed. I am downsizing from F150 Lariat to midsize and want features I had on my F150 that only Tacoma and GM offer. Any F150 owner that wants to downsize but retain F150 features is not being accommodated by Ford Ranger and I sure as hell don't want a Bronco. Ford removing content available in global Ranger that would match competitors features here, in your mind is just good business ??

Tacoma, class leading hp and torque for '24. Exterior on Tacoma and Canyon nicer than Ranger. Global Ranger has ventilated seats, rear seat vents, in dash pop out cupholders, 4 auto, that all should be on NA Lariat. Tacoma has awesome power tailgate, compared to the $2.00 engineering for Ranger tailgate. Ford has cheaped out on the Ranger and raised prices, I'm guessing they feel ICE customers don't deserve nice features but want our money to prop up the EV class.

And if I'm reading correctly, you pay for navigation and it's only good for 3 yrs?

Yes, and they have a couple different output ratings, and here in NA the 3.0 in the Bronco has more hp and torque and that tune should be offered in the NA Ranger.

On July 28/22, media.chevrolet announced the midsize getting the 2.7 with 430 lbft, and already are stating best in class torque on reg fuel. Ford has the 3.0 in Bronco with 440 lbft, 406hp on reg fuel, which if they offered would be best in class hp and torque, something they like to brag on in the the F150, and super duty classes. Ford has known for 10 months the number to beat and have the engine, so it would seem a no brainer to offer it!

I'm hoping Ford has been holding back info on the '24 Ranger, to then release it with coil spring rear suspension to match '24 Tacoma. Powertrain wise, if they carry over the 2.3 as base, then offer the Bronco 3.0 w/406hp-440lbft on regular fuel. that would best Canyon 430lbft on reg fuel, and best in class hp even if '24 Tacoma IMAX gets to 360hp and 400lbft.

For those wanting a super cab, I see on the mediaford site for South Africa, on Jan 25/23 they started building reg cab and super cab Rangers. Who knows it could happen here.

Agreed, could Ford be holding back info and surprise everyone by introducing the 2024 Ranger to NA market with coil spring rear suspension, beating the Tacoma to it. I'd be a taker, much better ride and control especially on washboard roads.