tincup2b Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Looks like Ford is going to give another round of bonuses to all employees again even though they did not make a profit. Although I would love to receive this bonus I don't think any of us should get it. This includes salary and hourly. Once we make a profit as a company again I am all for sharing the wealth through the profit sharing program again. But to reward everyone for trying but in the end failing again doesn't seem right to me. I think we all know why Ford is going to be giving bonuses to all employees again. In my opinion if they just were to give the bonuses to the upper management the union would cry foul, as well they should. By offering the bonuses to all employees this takes some of the sting out of the huge salary bonuses. Of course not all of salary will get the big paychecks like the upper management but never the less they will still get more than the union employees. If they are going to hand these bonuses out I think the amount should be the same across the board regardless of the job title you hold with the company. I know that some of you out there are going to rip me for this opinion but I'm sure it will be the ones from the management side that disagree. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...1014/BUSINESS01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrballsonya Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Although I would love to receive this bonus I don't think any of us should get it. This includes salary and hourly. Once we make a profit as a company again I am all for sharing the wealth through the profit sharing program again. But to reward everyone for trying but in the end failing again doesn't seem right to me. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...1014/BUSINESS01 I agree 100%. I thought last years welfare checks were ridiculous, but to do it 2 years in a row is just insane. If we as a Company are not making any money, then why should anyone get a performance bonus? Performance bonuses should reward GOOD PERFORMANCE. Losing 10% market share in 7 years and not making any profit since 2004 don't indicate that we as a company have PERFORMED WELL. This is obviously a thinly veiled bribe to the average UAW worker. A simple pittance to pacify the angst of the average grunt as the Board gives the top 200 officers unjustified bonuses. Let us all celebrate, once we start making products that are irresistible to the average consumer. When Ford becomes a contender again, let us all enjoy the spoils of victory. But for now, rewarding incompetence does nothing, other than to create a weak facade that we're better than we actually are. I think Mullaly has done a much better job than Jr. , but I don't agree with this portion of "Team Building". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtprubberrat Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) more like a bone-us! Edited February 22, 2008 by mtprubberrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Looks like Ford is going to give another round of bonuses to all employees again even though they did not make a profit. Although I would love to receive this bonus I don't think any of us should get it. This includes salary and hourly. Once we make a profit as a company again I am all for sharing the wealth through the profit sharing program again. But to reward everyone for trying but in the end failing again doesn't seem right to me. I wonder if you would change your mind about recieving a bonus if it wre around say, 20,000.00 or so? Like upper management.Like the guys that don't really need it. Although I'm sure a guy could always need to buy a bigger boat or two! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattack Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Looks like Ford is going to give another round of bonuses to all employees again even though they did not make a profit. Although I would love to receive this bonus I don't think any of us should get it. This includes salary and hourly. Once we make a profit as a company again I am all for sharing the wealth through the profit sharing program again. But to reward everyone for trying but in the end failing again doesn't seem right to me. I think we all know why Ford is going to be giving bonuses to all employees again. In my opinion if they just were to give the bonuses to the upper management the union would cry foul, as well they should. By offering the bonuses to all employees this takes some of the sting out of the huge salary bonuses. Of course not all of salary will get the big paychecks like the upper management but never the less they will still get more than the union employees. If they are going to hand these bonuses out I think the amount should be the same across the board regardless of the job title you hold with the company. I know that some of you out there are going to rip me for this opinion but I'm sure it will be the ones from the management side that disagree. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...1014/BUSINESS01 i agree 100%.......bonus' with no profit make no sense. leave it to ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlh225 Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Upper Management just wants to line their own pockets. They are just using this as a ploy to be able to do that. If they were serious about team work, then everyone would receive the same amount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FANTASTICFORD Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 (edited) Looks like Ford is going to give another round of bonuses to all employees again even though they did not make a profit. Although I would love to receive this bonus I don't think any of us should get it. This includes salary and hourly. Once we make a profit as a company again I am all for sharing the wealth through the profit sharing program again. But to reward everyone for trying but in the end failing again doesn't seem right to me. I think we all know why Ford is going to be giving bonuses to all employees again. In my opinion if they just were to give the bonuses to the upper management the union would cry foul, as well they should. By offering the bonuses to all employees this takes some of the sting out of the huge salary bonuses. Of course not all of salary will get the big paychecks like the upper management but never the less they will still get more than the union employees. If they are going to hand these bonuses out I think the amount should be the same across the board regardless of the job title you hold with the company. I know that some of you out there are going to rip me for this opinion but I'm sure it will be the ones from the management side that disagree. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...1014/BUSINESS01 You are I'm glad they are sharing the wealth with me. Top management will always get bonuses, so while they are passing checks out, I'll take one too. SAVE YOUR MONEY! Edited February 22, 2008 by FANTASTICFORD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 You are I'm glad they are sharing the wealth with me. Top management will always get bonuses, so while they are passing checks out, I'll take one too. SAVE YOUR MONEY! They were supposed to lose 500mil and instead only lose 200mil...therfore they made a profit, because it was based on a budget of 1bil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SU-FI Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 i agree and while we're at it since the company isnt making money we should all take a 10 dollar pay cut to help them out it's no different the the government giving us a bonus next month, it helps stimulate the economy but maybe we shouldnt get those either because of the deficit the country already has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Racin' Rick Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 more like a bone-us! ...same trash as before...management gets their fat check and the line worker gets crumbs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FordTrucklover Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 ...same trash as before...management gets their fat check and the line worker gets crumbs... [/qu EXACTLY!.. this company is wayyyyyyy in the red and profitability is when?..'09? ...all speculation.... if not profitable by '09 bankruptcy may be the only way.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ktpworker69 Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 ...same trash as before...management gets their fat check and the line worker gets crumbs... EXACTLY!.. this company is wayyyyyyy in the red and profitability is when?..'09? ...all speculation.... if not profitable by '09 bankruptcy may be the only way.......... i work in trim on b-crew at ktp. if you dont want your crumbs, i'll take it. enough crums will make a meal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pissedoffworker Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Do you think the temps. at the ach plants will get the bonus too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monroe Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 Do you think the temps. at the ach plants will get the bonus too NO. We did not get it last year, so we probably will not get it this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daydreamer Posted February 27, 2008 Share Posted February 27, 2008 People just like last year at our plant the hourly people got a average of 300 to 500 dollars. Most of the upper managment people recived 20000 dollars really close to the same between hourly and salary. And they wonder why the uaw and ford are having a hard time getting along that is a real kick the face to the people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tincup2b Posted February 29, 2008 Author Share Posted February 29, 2008 Now there is an article on Detroit Free Press (dated Feb. 21st) stating there was an error in reporting the original article on the 20th. I tried to open the article to read it but you have to be a member and if you are not a member they want you to purchase a membership. If anyone is a member or has access to the article from the 21st on this topic can you please post the content. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see what it sais. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
010300 Posted February 29, 2008 Share Posted February 29, 2008 Now there is an article on Detroit Free Press (dated Feb. 21st) stating there was an error in reporting the original article on the 20th. I tried to open the article to read it but you have to be a member and if you are not a member they want you to purchase a membership. If anyone is a member or has access to the article from the 21st on this topic can you please post the content. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would like to see what it sais. Thanks. The error was just the length of service of the guy they had interviewed about the bonus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raw1635 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Looks like Ford is going to give another round of bonuses to all employees again even though they did not make a profit. Although I would love to receive this bonus I don't think any of us should get it. This includes salary and hourly. Once we make a profit as a company again I am all for sharing the wealth through the profit sharing program again. But to reward everyone for trying but in the end failing again doesn't seem right to me. I think we all know why Ford is going to be giving bonuses to all employees again. In my opinion if they just were to give the bonuses to the upper management the union would cry foul, as well they should. By offering the bonuses to all employees this takes some of the sting out of the huge salary bonuses. Of course not all of salary will get the big paychecks like the upper management but never the less they will still get more than the union employees. If they are going to hand these bonuses out I think the amount should be the same across the board regardless of the job title you hold with the company. I know that some of you out there are going to rip me for this opinion but I'm sure it will be the ones from the management side that disagree. http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...1014/BUSINESS01 Inter Office Labor Affairs March 6, 2008 Division/Operations Human Resources Managers Division/Operations Labor Relations Managers Plant Human Resources Managers and Labor Relations Supervisors Persons Designated by the Above Subject: Special Lump Sum Performance Award For 2007 Eligible hourly employees will receive the Special Lump Sum Performance Award for 2007 of $1,000 on Thursday, March 13, 2008. This memo outlines the eligibility requirements, pay practices, and procedures for this payment. Please share these guidelines with your local Union leadership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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