Supreme Court Strikes Down D.C. Gun Ban, Upholds Individual Right to Keep and Bear Arms

[suv_guy_19]

They must be charging too much money for stamps. I can send e-mails for free. How can they compete against that? If they are profitable, it is because they are gouging the tax-payers. If I were shipping something fragile or valuable, I would not use the government postal service. The government has no business being in any business competing against its own citizens.

 

Email is no good for many official letters. Canada Post is not only in the mail business, but the bill payment and money transfer business. That is where a large portion of their profit comes from. That profit is put into government coffers and as a result your tax bill isn't quite as high as it would be.

 

I have received 3 computers through the mail. There is no other service in this area. As for your private companies. FedEx is good, but only serves major areas, UPS sucks completely, they have lost things 4 times out of the 5 that I used them. The best of the 3 is Purolator, and it is a nearly wholly owned subsidiary of Canada Post. You really don't have a clue. Here, just to infuriate you:

 

 

Canada Post unveils new facility design

 

Updated: July 3 at 01:49 PM CDT

 

Canada Post has unveiled design plans for its new airport mail sorting facility that is going to cost an estimated $100 million to build and outfit.

 

Moya Greene, president and CEO of Canada Post Corporation, said "This is the largest investment Canada Post has made in a city's postal operation in the last 20 years."

 

 

The contract to design and build a new state-of-the-art mail processing plant has been awarded to Caspian Projects Inc./Aecon Buildings, a division of Aecon Construction Group Inc.

 

The building has a planned opening date of 2010 and is going to be built to LEED (Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design) certification.

 

The current building at 266 Graham Avenue is now for sale. After it's sold, Canada Post officials have said they will work with the new owner to explore the potential for a continued presence there for its regional staff.

 

Canada Post is also about to begin demolition of the former Midway Chrysler car dealership site at 730 Portage Ave. and will build a new letter-carrier depot at that site.

Edited July 6, 2008 by suv_guy_19

[Trimdingman]

Email is no good for many official letters. Canada Post is not only in the mail business, but the bill payment and money transfer business. That is where a large portion of their profit comes from. That profit is put into government coffers and as a result your tax bill isn't quite as high as it would be.

 

I have received 3 computers through the mail. There is no other service in this area. As for your private companies. FedEx is good, but only serves major areas, UPS sucks completely, they have lost things 4 times out of the 5 that I used them. The best of the 3 is Purolator, and it is a nearly wholly owned subsidiary of Canada Post. You really don't have a clue. Here, just to infuriate you:

 

 

I have also heard Michael Moore brag about Cuba's great health care. Bullshit. The Post Office is an example of Communism. If every industry was taken over by the government, that is what we would have. Government makes more profit from the auto industry than the auto makers do. Communism? We are getting there slowly but surely.

Edited July 6, 2008 by Trimdingman

[Edstock]

I have also heard Michael Moore brag about Cuba's great health care. Bullshit.

You're entitled to your opinion. No facts, so it's just an opinion. Compared to the level of development in the Batista-era, since 1959, the Cubans have built a very good medical system, exporting doctors to poor countries where people can't afford private health care.

 

The Post Office is an example of Communism.

Again, you're entitled to your opinion. It sure took a long time for communism to catch up.

 

England had the first post office, started by the Red Tudor:

 

The Royal Mail traces its history back to 1516, when Henry VIII established a "Master of the Posts", a post which eventually evolved into the office of the Postmaster General. The Royal Mail service was first made available to the public by Charles I on July 31, 1635, with postage being paid by the recipient, and the General Post Office (GPO) was officially established by Charles II in 1660.

 

Between 1719 and 1763, Ralph Allen, Postmaster at Bath, signed a series of contracts with the post office to develop and expand Britain's postal network. He organised mail coaches which were provided by both Wilson & Company of London and Williams & Company of Bath. The early Royal Mail Coaches were similar to ordinary family coaches but with Post Office livery.

Then, with the arrival of the Penny Black in 1840, this government organization grew and grew to service the rapidly growing private enterprise that was the Industrial Revolution. The partnership continues to this day.

 

On a lighter note:

 

 

Edited July 7, 2008 by Edstock

[Trimdingman]

You're entitled to your opinion. No facts, so it's just an opinion. Compared to the level of development in the Batista-era, since 1959, the Cubans have built a very good medical system, exporting doctors to poor countries where people can't afford private health care.

 

 

Again, you're entitled to your opinion. It sure took a long time for communism to catch up.

 

England had the first post office, started by the Red Tudor:

 

Then, with the arrival of the Penny Black in 1840, this government organization grew and grew to service the rapidly growing private enterprise that was the Industrial Revolution. The partnership continues to this day.

 

On a lighter note:

 

 

 

 

Back in the 1700s and 1800s, there wasn't the technology that we had to-day, so having someone hand-deliver correspondences was about the best they could do. Hell-o... we have telephone, fax, e-mail to-day. Hand delivery is inefficient and a waste of labor. If it can be done profitably, let private business do it. I would say the same for re-cycling and every other government enterprise. How do I know that I am getting bang for my tax buck if the government is running it? I have no choice but to pay, even if I do not want or use the service.

 

Cubans are slaves. They pay virtually 100% tax. Nothing is free for them. The peasants that you do not see get no health care. The ones who complain rot in prison. They do not even get fed, let alone get health care. You think that is better than the Batista era? Go to Miami and talk to some Cuban exiles. The people in Cuba can't give you the true facts because they will end up in the gulag. Yes, it is a wonderful system. If more people think like you, it will soon be here.

Edited July 8, 2008 by Trimdingman

[suv_guy_19]

Back in the 1700s and 1800s, there wasn't the technology that we had to-day, so having someone hand-deliver correspondences was about the best they could do. Hell-o... we have telephone, fax, e-mail to-day. Hand delivery is inefficient and a waste of labor. If it can be done profitably, let private business do it. I would say the same for re-cycling and every other government enterprise. How do I know that I am getting bang for my tax buck if the government is running it? I have no choice but to pay, even if I do not want or use the service.

 

 

Ok, this time actually read.

 

1. Canada post IS profitable. That helps to offset your tax bill.

 

2. Some things require letters. Phone and Email is not a safe form of many types of official communications.

 

3. Private companies do deliver packages and will soon be able to deliver mail.

 

4. You get bang for your buck because it makes money, meaning it gives money and doesn't take it. Your not paying for anything if you don't use it.

[mettech]

You're entitled to your opinion. No facts, so it's just an opinion. Compared to the level of development in the Batista-era, since 1959, the Cubans have built a very good medical system, exporting doctors to poor countries where people can't afford private health care.

 

 

Again, you're entitled to your opinion. It sure took a long time for communism to catch up.

 

England had the first post office, started by the Red Tudor:

 

Then, with the arrival of the Penny Black in 1840, this government organization grew and grew to service the rapidly growing private enterprise that was the Industrial Revolution. The partnership continues to this day.

 

On a lighter note:

 

 

 

After reading this... I just had to look at your profile

 

I bet you are a hoot at home and work.

 

P.S.... please add more info in your profile..

[Trimdingman]

Ok, this time actually read.

 

1. Canada post IS profitable. That helps to offset your tax bill.

 

2. Some things require letters. Phone and Email is not a safe form of many types of official communications.

 

3. Private companies do deliver packages and will soon be able to deliver mail.

 

4. You get bang for your buck because it makes money, meaning it gives money and doesn't take it. Your not paying for anything if you don't use it.

 

 

The post office is profitable to who? Their profits are my taxes. All they do is pay salaries and wages to people doing unnecessary work who could be doing something worthwhile. If the government taxed you to make a video of people digging holes and then filling them back in, forcing you to buy it at a price higher than it cost to make, it would make a profit too.

[Edstock]

The post office is profitable to who? Their profits are my taxes. All they do is pay salaries and wages to people doing unnecessary work who could be doing something worthwhile. If the government taxed you to make a video of people digging holes and then filling them back in, forcing you to buy it at a price higher than it cost to make, it would make a profit too.

It doesn't matter whether the mail service is privately-owned, or publicly-owned, the work is necessary, and worthwhile. E-mail and faxes are not sufficient for many business transactions, plus people buy things, and those things get delivered.

 

As it is, if you don't use it, the post office costs you nothing, but many others seem to find that paying for its services is an effective way to send whatever.

[goinbroke2]

Wow, whole lot of confusion here! I must admit I didn't know this until two years ago when my wife started working for Canada post...it's NOT government owned/run. It is a private corporation which is DIRECTED BY THE CROWN. In other words, there is a federal mandate for the operation of cp but it is a PRIVATE company.

 

I can't say much more or explain it any better, but I can get the wife to explain if you really care.

[BlackHorse]

You're entitled to your opinion. No facts, so it's just an opinion. Compared to the level of development in the Batista-era, since 1959, the Cubans have built a very good medical system, exporting doctors to poor countries where people can't afford private health care.

 

Well I couldn't just let the bit of blatant marxist propaganda slip without telling the other side of the story.

 

Cuba never tires of boasting it has more doctors per capita than almost any country in the world, one for every 172 people. But while the number of doctors may be large, their salaries are small -- so small, in fact, that an average porter in a tourist hotel, who earns tips in dollars, makes four or five times more than a medical professional, who's paid in Cuban pesos.

 

Cuban Doctors Seeking Opportunities Abroad Due to Low Wages at Home

 

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0007/09/sm.08.html

 

 

Last summer the Bush administration announced that any Cuban medical professional sent abroad by the communist regime was eligible for political asylum in the United States.

 

As a result, dozens of Cuban healthcare workers sent to Venezuela sneaked across the border into Colombia, hoping to start a new life in America.

 

Cuban Doctors in Limbo Seek Asylum in U.S.

 

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/ic/200...12/151534.shtml

 

 

You take a good long look at your "very good" cuban medial system Edstock because I know you're just a doggon tool spouting out on behalf of your other marxist brethren Michael Moore.

 

 

 

Take a good look.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, state of the muther f***in art. Moronic tool.

 

 

 

 

 

By the way SUV-GUY, anytime a socialist government such as yours tells you that everything is going well, doing fine, the postal service is in making money or what not. That's sure inidicator that someone is lying. Socialism is an abject failure. It never has been and never will be an efficient system of government.

[Edstock]

You take a good long look at your "very good" cuban medial system Edstock because I know you're just a doggon tool spouting out on behalf of your other marxist brethren Michael Moore.

Lighten up, dude.

 

Sure, Cuban doctors are under-paid, and sure, socialism is an inefficient way of doing things.

 

But, the Cubans have gone a long way to provide basic health care where none was available and exporting doctors to places in the 3rd world that need them. This was in reply to Trimdingman's simple-minded declaration that the Cuban medical system is "bullshit". Well, it's not bullshit, however much you and Trimdingman want to rail otherwise. The Cuban system has flaws, but it has produced doctors where there were none before, in the Batista-era, when Cuba was a 3rd-world hell-hole.

 

Sure, private enterprise is the most efficient way of producing most goods and services, but not all. For example, the US federal government built the Hoover dam, which brought energy to the South-West, and was a project that somehow, private enterprise couldn't get organized, so it took the gawddam commies in the US government to get it done while rich American investors did nothing.

 

Perhaps a little less knee-jerk and fewer epithets, and a little more thought would be good.

[NickF1011]

Sure, private enterprise is the most efficient way of producing most goods and services, but not all. For example, the US federal government built the Hoover dam, which brought energy to the South-West, and was a project that somehow, private enterprise couldn't get organized, so it took the gawddam commies in the US government to get it done while rich American investors did nothing.

 

It was the middle of the Great Depression. Private enterprise wasn't doing much of anything then.

[suv_guy_19]

Wow, whole lot of confusion here! I must admit I didn't know this until two years ago when my wife started working for Canada post...it's NOT government owned/run. It is a private corporation which is DIRECTED BY THE CROWN. In other words, there is a federal mandate for the operation of cp but it is a PRIVATE company.

 

I can't say much more or explain it any better, but I can get the wife to explain if you really care.

 

 

Actually, its a postal authority operated as a crown corporation, so it really is government.

[suv_guy_19]

By the way SUV-GUY, anytime a socialist government such as yours tells you that everything is going well, doing fine, the postal service is in making money or what not. That's sure inidicator that someone is lying. Socialism is an abject failure. It never has been and never will be an efficient system of government.

 

The post office is doing fine. Things like that really can't be lied about. I never said though, that socialism was the answer, you said that I did. A mix of all different philosophies and policies are what allows a country to run. There have been failings on the other side as well though. Look at the way the lack of banking and corporate regulation is affecting the US system. Europe and Canada had the regulations in place and its allowing them to feel much less of a blow from it.

 

You seem to think that I believe that there are no problems here. That's not the case. Some medical waits are too long. Our highway infrastructure needs work. Ontario is in a little bit of trouble as a result of the US downturn. Right about now, we need a different government or at the least a better opposition from the centre. There are many other things I could point out that are wrong. The thing is though, that I know there are far more things right than there are wrong. Most of the population of the Earth doesn't enjoy the things that we do in the western world. I know that the problems will be overcome and the system put back on track. Its all a matter of how you look at things. In my lifetime, I've seen things get better here, and yet others have seen them go down hill. I would maybe be bothered by that and I might be forced to agree with them if it weren't for the fact that statistics are on my side. I am an optimist and I see nothing wrong with it. There are enough other people to point out the negatives.

[Trimdingman]

The post office is doing fine. Things like that really can't be lied about. I never said though, that socialism was the answer, you said that I did. A mix of all different philosophies and policies are what allows a country to run. There have been failings on the other side as well though. Look at the way the lack of banking and corporate regulation is affecting the US system. Europe and Canada had the regulations in place and its allowing them to feel much less of a blow from it.

 

You seem to think that I believe that there are no problems here. That's not the case. Some medical waits are too long. Our highway infrastructure needs work. Ontario is in a little bit of trouble as a result of the US downturn. Right about now, we need a different government or at the least a better opposition from the centre. There are many other things I could point out that are wrong. The thing is though, that I know there are far more things right than there are wrong. Most of the population of the Earth doesn't enjoy the things that we do in the western world. I know that the problems will be overcome and the system put back on track. Its all a matter of how you look at things. In my lifetime, I've seen things get better here, and yet others have seen them go down hill. I would maybe be bothered by that and I might be forced to agree with them if it weren't for the fact that statistics are on my side. I am an optimist and I see nothing wrong with it. There are enough other people to point out the negatives.

 

 

Socialism is great for people who are stupid or weak or without ambition. Those are not the kind of people who came over here in the beginning and built this country. Those are the types who came to take advantage of what other people did. Now there are more of the latter. They believe that if they just keep shifting things around, somehow there will magically be more. Wealth has to be created by people who are willing to work hard. With the government waiting like a vulture to take anything that you produce, the incentive is not there. Useless beaurocrats who produce nothing are sucking the life-blood out of the country.

 

Our socialist health care system is a shambles. People are being mis-diagnosed and treated for cancer. Hospitals are infecting people with untreatable viruses. We really have no health care. It is a gamble going to a hospital and the odds are against you. I stay away. I hope that I stay healthy.

 

Enjoy your next trip to Cuba. The dollars that you pay into the Communist system will help pay for more gulags. Have sex with some 15 year old for $10 so that she can feed her family. I have never been to Cuba and I will never give one dime to Communist dictators.

Edited July 9, 2008 by Trimdingman

[suv_guy_19]

Socialism is great for people who are stupid or weak or without ambition. Those are not the kind of people who came over here in the beginning and built this country. Those are the types who came to take advantage of what other people did. Now there are more of the latter. They believe that if they just keep shifting things around, somehow there will magically be more. Wealth has to be created by people who are willing to work hard. With the government waiting like a vulture to take anything that you produce, the incentive is not there. Useless beaurocrats who produce nothing are sucking the life-blood out of the country.

 

Our socialist health care system is a shambles. People are being mis-diagnosed and treated for cancer. Hospitals are infecting people with untreatable viruses. We really have no health care. It is a gamble going to a hospital and the odds are against you. I stay away. I hope that I stay healthy.

 

Enjoy your next trip to Cuba. The dollars that you pay into the Communist system will help pay for more gulags. Have sex with some 15 year old for $10 so that she can feed her family. I have never been to Cuba and I will never give one dime to Communist dictators.

 

I've never been to Cuba. I can also see by what you posted that you didn't read a word I said. I also really don't care what you think of anything, as you seem to have the worst ideas I've ever encountered.

[matthewq4b]

Our socialist health care system is a shambles. People are being mis-diagnosed and treated for cancer. Hospitals are infecting people with untreatable viruses. We really have no health care. It is a gamble going to a hospital and the odds are against you. I stay away. I hope that I stay healthy.

 

 

If that is the case about not for profit universal system. What does that say about for the profit U.S system?

As we out perform them in almost all categories.

We have a lower rate of misdiagnosis. Better survivability rates for all diseases and illnesses. Lower rates of post op complications. Plus lower over cost to the tax payer.

 

 

 

 

 

You complain about having to pay to use hyways in one sentence just as you do for private roads. Then bitch about the fact the government is using your tax dollars for infrastructure. You complain when you have to pay taxes for any service you choose not to use but then turn around and complain when you do have to pay for services that you do use. You're the one that wants a free ride. You bitch about people not paying their way but you typify that very thing you rally against. Your issue is your a greedy self centered SOB. If it costs you money you want nothing to do with it ,if it does not directly benefit you. Typical Liberal crybaby givme attitude.

 

 

As much as you wanna bitch about Canada and the more socialistic tendency's of our Govt if it so flawed then why are we surpassing the U.S in basically all measurable standards of living ? From Gross income to overall happiness ?

 

 

Maybe you should travel to Cuba ad the hell out and travel around the world then maybe you would appreciate what you have here. Or maybe you have and do realize it ad refuse to admit it. Cause you sure as the hell are not making any moves to a country that fits your wants.

 

You are the farthest thing from a conservative cause apparently you hove no clue what it means to be a conservative in this country. Your whining and carrying on is more typical of the average Liberal NDP'er than any conservative I know. I believe me I know conservative, as we are the conservative anchor for the whole nation.

 

 

Matthew

Edited July 9, 2008 by matthewq4b

[Trimdingman]

If that is the case about not for profit universal system. What does that say about for the profit U.S system?

As we out perform them in almost all categories.

We have a lower rate of misdiagnosis. Better survivability rates for all diseases and illnesses. Lower rates of post op complications. Plus lower over cost to the tax payer.

 

 

 

 

 

You complain about having to pay to use hyways in one sentence just as you do for private roads. Then bitch about the fact the government is using your tax dollars for infrastructure. You complain when you have to pay taxes for any service you choose not to use but then turn around and complain when you do have to pay for services that you do use. You're the one that wants a free ride. You bitch about people not paying their way but you typify that very thing you rally against. Your issue is your a greedy self centered SOB. If it costs you money you want nothing to do with it ,if it does not directly benefit you. Typical Liberal crybaby givme attitude.

 

 

As much as you wanna bitch about Canada and the more socialistic tendency's of our Govt if it so flawed then why are we surpassing the U.S in basically all measurable standards of living ? From Gross income to overall happiness ?

 

 

Maybe you should travel to Cuba ad the hell out and travel around the world then maybe you would appreciate what you have here. Or maybe you have and do realize it ad refuse to admit it. Cause you sure as the hell are not making any moves to a country that fits your wants.

 

You are the farthest thing from a conservative cause apparently you hove no clue what it means to be a conservative in this country. Your whining and carrying on is more typical of the average Liberal NDP'er than any conservative I know. I believe me I know conservative, as we are the conservative anchor for the whole nation.

 

 

Matthew

 

 

The only thing that I want from the government is for them to stay away from me and leave me alone. Between myself and my wife, we paid around $100,000 in total taxes last year. I don't think that I am getting a free ride. I think that I am carrying a lot of useless sobs on my back. That is what I think.

[mettech]

Well, at least the useless jobs employ people and gives them a place to go each day...

 

Anyway, I still think that the Supreme Court made a good ruling on the gun law.

 

I'm not sure that Cuba cares about the ruling. :shades:

[suv_guy_19]

Anyway, I still think that the Supreme Court made a good ruling on the gun law.

 

Oh, is that what this was about ?

[Trimdingman]

Well, at least the useless jobs employ people and gives them a place to go each day...

 

Anyway, I still think that the Supreme Court made a good ruling on the gun law.

 

I'm not sure that Cuba cares about the ruling. :shades:

 

 

Before the Totalitarians take over, they ban guns. I bet that most Cubans never touched a gun. I wonder what the penalty would be in Cuba for carrying a gun. They don't have laws per se in Cuba. Breathing is against the law if the dictator says so. Cubans know if somebody has broken a rule when he disappears.

 

I don't care if people do useless jobs just as long as it is not my money paying them.

[BlackHorse]

The only thing that I want from the government is for them to stay away from me and leave me alone. Between myself and my wife, we paid around $100,000 in total taxes last year. I don't think that I am getting a free ride. I think that I am carrying a lot of useless sobs on my back. That is what I think.

 

 

Because that is exactly what they want you to think Trim. The truth is most of that money went right into the pockets of some rich SOB. How many times do I have to say it before you guys learn one simple phrase.

 

Politicians take our money, and give it to their rich friends.

[suv_guy_19]

nothing

Edited July 11, 2008 by suv_guy_19

[Trimdingman]

Because that is exactly what they want you to think Trim. The truth is most of that money went right into the pockets of some rich SOB. How many times do I have to say it before you guys learn one simple phrase.

 

Politicians take our money, and give it to their rich friends.

 

They are playing the rich against the poor. It is the rich who create jobs so that there is less poverty. The government taxes the hell out of the rich and gives a bit of money to the poor. The lion's share of the tax money goes to administrators of useless programs. These programs pretend to help the poor, but are actually in place to ensure a large poverty voter base. People who are now dependent on these programs pay no taxes and vote for any left wing party which will increase taxes to the rich and increase benefits to themselves. They do not realize that they would benefit more if they just eliminated the government middle-man. This system gives the government tremendous power, bordering on Totalitarianism, and enslaves both rich and poor; the poor to a greater extent. The poor are then wrongly led to believe that they have less because the rich have more. They are poor because that is the way the government wants it. It makes them easier to control.

[suv_guy_19]

They are playing the rich against the poor. It is the rich who create jobs so that there is less poverty. The government taxes the hell out of the rich and gives a bit of money to the poor. The lion's share of the tax money goes to administrators of useless programs. These programs pretend to help the poor, but are actually in place to ensure a large poverty voter base. People who are now dependent on these programs pay no taxes and vote for any left wing party which will increase taxes to the rich and increase benefits to themselves. They do not realize that they would benefit more if they just eliminated the government middle-man. This system gives the government tremendous power, bordering on Totalitarianism, and enslaves both rich and poor; the poor to a greater extent. The poor are then wrongly led to believe that they have less because the rich have more. They are poor because that is the way the government wants it. It makes them easier to control.

 

 

Are you sure we live in the same country? I'm starting to doubt it.