Reigner92 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Is it time for the return of the notchback? If Ford makes this an option, I think that the Mustang might appeal to a lot more people. True it might hurt the Ford Taurus SHO sales but it could pull some possible Camaro, or Challenger buyers over to the mustang. What do you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigner92 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 no And do you have any reasoning as to why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 And do you have any reasoning as to why not? I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but that roofline just looks wrong. Look at the profile of the '65-'68 coupes. None had a quarter window that big. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigner92 Posted January 5, 2009 Author Share Posted January 5, 2009 I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but that roofline just looks wrong. Look at the profile of the '65-'68 coupes. None had a quarter window that big. Yeah, i thought it looked odd. Thanks. Here is a revised and edited one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplesituations Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Sorry but that looks extremely odd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89-Pony Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Is it time for the return of the notchback? If Ford makes this an option, I think that the Mustang might appeal to a lot more people. True it might hurt the Ford Taurus SHO sales but it could pull some possible Camaro, or Challenger buyers over to the mustang. What do you think? I don't like that particular design, but I like the idea. The back seat is almost uninhabitable as it stands now. The problems are both headroom and legroom. So a notchback would solve or at least greatly improve the headroom issue. Hey, I have 2 kids, they're growing, and I need the space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I don't like that particular design, but I like the idea. The back seat is almost uninhabitable as it stands now. The problems are both headroom and legroom. So a notchback would solve or at least greatly improve the headroom issue. Hey, I have 2 kids, they're growing, and I need the space. Is your Pony a 89? Ford did expand the leg room somewhat in 2005. It's hardly cavernous, but it will seat 4 NORMAL people OK. A friend of mine is 6'4"....and he's gotten in the back seat twice (why I don't know!). If they could make the seats thinner it would help. I have nothing against a coupe as it could spawn a Cougar. But it would require a LOT of different sheet metal changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 I just don't see the point of a "notchback" on the S197 at all, no matter what it looks like. It's not like the S197, or even the SN95's were true "fastbacks" to begin with anyway. The greenhouse was already extended rearward in an effort to make the back seat a bit more habitable compared to the Foxes while giving it a sporting look. Not to mention a notchback would probably kill the Mustang's already none-too-impressive airflow properties. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark B. Morrow Posted January 5, 2009 Share Posted January 5, 2009 Is your Pony a 89? Ford did expand the leg room somewhat in 2005. It's hardly cavernous, but it will seat 4 NORMAL people OK. A friend of mine is 6'4"....and he's gotten in the back seat twice (why I don't know!). If they could make the seats thinner it would help. I have nothing against a coupe as it could spawn a Cougar. But it would require a LOT of different sheet metal changes. That would make a great base for a Cougar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtion Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Is your Pony a 89? Ford did expand the leg room somewhat in 2005. It's hardly cavernous, but it will seat 4 NORMAL people OK. A friend of mine is 6'4"....and he's gotten in the back seat twice (why I don't know!). If they could make the seats thinner it would help. I have nothing against a coupe as it could spawn a Cougar. But it would require a LOT of different sheet metal changes. Rework that front end and it would be Cougar looking.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donzuchowski Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Is it time for the return of the notchback? If Ford makes this an option, I think that the Mustang might appeal to a lot more people. True it might hurt the Ford Taurus SHO sales but it could pull some possible Camaro, or Challenger buyers over to the mustang. What do you think? i say do a 4 and 5 door mustang like was rumored a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) i say do a 4 and 5 door mustang like was rumored a few years ago. Why is it you only show up when it comes to recommending new Mustang body styles? I can't possibly think of a WORSE idea for the Mustang than what you suggest. Even FWD would be more acceptable than to EVER see a Mustang station wagon. Edited January 6, 2009 by NickF1011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89-Pony Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Is your Pony a 89? Ford did expand the leg room somewhat in 2005. It's hardly cavernous, but it will seat 4 NORMAL people OK. A friend of mine is 6'4"....and he's gotten in the back seat twice (why I don't know!). If they could make the seats thinner it would help. I have nothing against a coupe as it could spawn a Cougar. But it would require a LOT of different sheet metal changes. Yeah, mine's an 89 LX 5.0 hatchback. In my 89, there is a lot more rear seat legroom than in the '05's & up. And I'm 6'1" so it's not like I have the driver's seat forward at all. When the driver's seat is placed where I am comfortable, there is some 5-6" between my seatback and the leading edge of the rear passenger cushion. When I do the same on an '05-08, there is barely 2". I had an 07 V6 rental Mustang, and a petite woman who was with us fit in the back seat with what looked to be plenty of spare room. I still don't get that. But my yardstick is whether or not I can fit in the back, as I often carry my kids or company visitors with me, and even my 13-year-old in squeezed back there. I guess it's just not the right car for my current position in life. :-( And that's sad because the Mustang is the only car that really makes my heart skip a beat. It's looking more and more like I may have to use my Pony as downpayment $$ on an Edge or Fusion. That may not be so bad, but I would really miss that car. I'm the original owner. Edited January 6, 2009 by 89-Pony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Yeah, mine's an 89 LX 5.0 hatchback. In my 89, there is a lot more rear seat legroom than in the '05's & up. And I'm 6'1" so it's not like I have the driver's seat forward at all. When the driver's seat is placed where I am comfortable, there is some 5-6" between my seatback and the leading edge of the rear passenger cushion. When I do the same on an '05-08, there is barely 2". I had an 07 V6 rental Mustang, and a petite woman who was with us fit in the back seat with what looked to be plenty of spare room. I still don't get that. But my yardstick is whether or not I can fit in the back, as I often carry my kids or company visitors with me, and even my 13-year-old in squeezed back there. I guess it's just not the right car for my current position in life. :-( And that's sad because the Mustang is the only car that really makes my heart skip a beat. It's looking more and more like I may have to use my Pony as downpayment $$ on an Edge or Fusion. That may not be so bad, but I would really miss that car. I'm the original owner. Why would you need to sell the 89 to buy something new? It's not like you would get much money for an '89 anyway on trade or private party sell and if it becomes a second vehicle, it probably wouldn't cost a thing to insure it. I kept my Cobra when I bought my Mazda6, and you know what? My overall insurance actually got CHEAPER to insure both of vehicles instead of just the Cobra as a primary. My Cobra now costs a grand total of $300 a year for comprehensive coverage. That way you get to keep your toy for when you want it and you get the more practical vehicle for when you need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89-Pony Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Why would you need to sell the 89 to buy something new? It's not like you would get much money for an '89 anyway on trade or private party sell and if it becomes a second vehicle, it probably wouldn't cost a thing to insure it. I kept my Cobra when I bought my Mazda6, and you know what? My overall insurance actually got CHEAPER to insure both of vehicles instead of just the Cobra as a primary. My Cobra now costs a grand total of $300 a year for comprehensive coverage. That way you get to keep your toy for when you want it and you get the more practical vehicle for when you need it. You mean my '89 won't fetch $12 grand?!? But it only has 150,000 miles on it! :-) I see your point. I insure mine for 7 months out of the year, and that costs me a whopping $350 through Allstate. I can insure it as classic through Heacock Classic for aroung $100/yr. My thought was, if I sold the Pony for $4k that should save me about $75 a month in car payments -- not insignificant. I may looked at a gently used Fusion to replace my beater (97 Altima, 164k miles). Those seem to be going for dirt cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 You mean my '89 won't fetch $12 grand?!? But it only has 150,000 miles on it! :-) I see your point. I insure mine for 7 months out of the year, and that costs me a whopping $350 through Allstate. I can insure it as classic through Heacock Classic for aroung $100/yr. My thought was, if I sold the Pony for $4k that should save me about $75 a month in car payments -- not insignificant. I may looked at a gently used Fusion to replace my beater (97 Altima, 164k miles). Those seem to be going for dirt cheap. Used Fusion sounds like a good solution. Didn't know you had the Altima also. Should trade that one instead and keep the Pony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89-Pony Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 (edited) Used Fusion sounds like a good solution. Didn't know you had the Altima also. Should trade that one instead and keep the Pony. Without a doubt, the Altima goes. It is my commuter car, I'm putting 20k miles/yr on it. It has 160,000 miles now and I don't see it lasting. It needs replaced. I wanted something bigger this time. Love the Edge, I'd really love one of those. We have an Escape for a family ride, love it too. Wouldn't mind having one for myself, leave the other one for the wife, gas mileage be damned. The only benefit to selling the Pony is that I reduce the payment on my new "necessary" car, and I then get to pull into / out of a warm dry garage every day (where the Pony sits now) -- I really hate scraping the Altima off in the snow. OK, I'm getting old. Edited January 6, 2009 by 89-Pony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Without a doubt, the Altima goes. It is my commuter, 20k miles/yr. It needs replaced. I wanted something bigger this time. Love the Edge. We have an Escape for a family ride, love it. The only benefit to selling the Pony is that I reduce the payment on my new "necessary" car, and I then get to pull into / out of a warm dry garage every day (where the Pony sits now) -- I really hate scraping the Altima off in the snow. OK, I'm getting old. Understand what you mean. I only have a 1-car garage, so the Cobra takes that up in my case too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Yeah, mine's an 89 LX 5.0 hatchback. In my 89, there is a lot more rear seat legroom than in the '05's & up. Nope I had a 90 Mustang convertible....and an 82 Capri 5.0 hatch. http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com...d-mustang-6.htm 90 Mustang: Covn. coupe, hatch Rear Head Room, in. 37.0 35.9 35.7 Max. Rear Leg Room, in. 30.7 30.7 30.7 2005 Mustang Conv, Coupe Rear Head Room, in. 36.3 35.0 Max. Rear Leg Room, in. 30.3 31.0 Granted, none of them have a LOT of rear seat head/leg room. But for what it is, it's OK as occasional use seating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 i say do a 4 and 5 door mustang like was rumored a few years ago. You say? I'm not about to do one....ever. What rumor? I never heard of it. There was talk of a 2 door kamback style "wagon". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timmm55 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Not more room in the front either. 05 Mustang: Max. Front Leg Room, in. 42.7 42.7 90 Max. Front Leg Room, in. 41.7 41.7 41.7 I will say the newer interior has a higher belt line and you have to sit closer to the higher dash, giving it a more closed-in feeling. The 79-93 is a lot more airy, sort of like a Prelude, while the newer 05+ is more like a Chrysler 300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89-Pony Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Nope I had a 90 Mustang convertible....and an 82 Capri 5.0 hatch. http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com...d-mustang-6.htm 90 Mustang: Covn. coupe, hatch Rear Head Room, in. 37.0 35.9 35.7 Max. Rear Leg Room, in. 30.7 30.7 30.7 2005 Mustang Conv, Coupe Rear Head Room, in. 36.3 35.0 Max. Rear Leg Room, in. 30.3 31.0 Granted, none of them have a LOT of rear seat head/leg room. But for what it is, it's OK as occasional use seating. Wow, a whopping 0.3" more. Now go and actually SIT in it and tell me what you think. Sometimes raw numbers don't tell the whole story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89-Pony Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Not more room in the front either. 05 Mustang: Max. Front Leg Room, in. 42.7 42.7 90 Max. Front Leg Room, in. 41.7 41.7 41.7 I will say the newer interior has a higher belt line and you have to sit closer to the higher dash, giving it a more closed-in feeling. The 79-93 is a lot more airy, sort of like a Prelude, while the newer 05+ is more like a Chrysler 300. I just loved the feel of the new one. My head bumps the headliner and the edge of the sun visor, so I feel a little closed in in my '89. That factory sunroof really cut down on headroom, because they have to lower the surrounding headliner. That's one option I'd leave off next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rmc523 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I'm not saying it couldn't be done, but that roofline just looks wrong. Look at the profile of the '65-'68 coupes. None had a quarter window that big. Yeah, I don't think that's working, either, but I suppose it could be done. Sorry but that looks extremely odd I unfortunately agree. Is your Pony a 89? Ford did expand the leg room somewhat in 2005. It's hardly cavernous, but it will seat 4 NORMAL people OK. A friend of mine is 6'4"....and he's gotten in the back seat twice (why I don't know!). If they could make the seats thinner it would help. I have nothing against a coupe as it could spawn a Cougar. But it would require a LOT of different sheet metal changes. See now something like that doesn't look too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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