TomServo92 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Link First, Ford decided against asking for bailout loans. That turned out to be a P.R. coup, not only because it kept Henry Ford’s auto company away from the meddling hands of President Obama’s auto task force, but because it also sent a message to the American public that Ford was different -- a message that has gotten through in numerous public opinion polls. Increasingly, people don’t think of the Big Three; instead they lump GM and Chrysler together, and either think of Ford on its own or, even better, compare it to Toyota Motor Corp. and Honda Motor Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Except even Toyota (and I think Honda?) have received money from the Japanese government. Has Ford taken money yet from ANY government?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Except even Toyota (and I think Honda?) have received money from the Japanese government. Has Ford taken money yet from ANY government?? Pretty much all the German brands have either gotten bailouts or have at least asked for them too! I may be early in asking this, but here we go: Is it true to say that Ford is the only manufacturer that sells autos in the U.S. who hasn't asked for a bailout from a government from any country? If not, how long until that's true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Pretty much all the German brands have either gotten bailouts or have at least asked for them too! I may be early in asking this, but here we go: Is it true to say that Ford is the only manufacturer that sells autos in the U.S. who hasn't asked for a bailout from a government from any country? If not, how long until that's true? Has Koenigsegg gotten a loan from the Swedish government yet? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OHV 16V Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Has Koenigsegg gotten a loan from the Swedish government yet? :D :hysterical: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkoko Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 So Hyundai / Kia asked for bailouts ?? news to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 So Hyundai / Kia asked for bailouts ?? news to me. Always forget about those pesky Koreans. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Except even Toyota (and I think Honda?) have received money from the Japanese government. Has Ford taken money yet from ANY government?? Ford Credit has gotten some funding from (I think) the Federal Reserve, and they've applied for the DoE loans for plant renovations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 and they've applied for the DoE loans for plant renovations. Well, that's a whole 'nother ball of wax there. Programs like those would likely have existed on some level no matter what the economy was looking like, especially during a "green" administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 (edited) Regardless, Ford has certainly cut a different swath.... Was at the local Ford dealer last night, and they had a couple '10 Fusions among the '09s and the new model really makes the old model look....... old. No new Mustangs, but that doesn't really surprise me. I doubt a Ford dealership in the snowbelt would want their '10 allocation to start showing up in March. In fact, I think they only had one Mustang on the lot. Edited April 14, 2009 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 So Hyundai / Kia asked for bailouts ?? news to me. They're government controlled (South Korean). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Regardless, Ford has certainly cut a different swath.... Was at the local Ford dealer last night, and they had a couple '10 Fusions among the '09s and the new model really makes the old model look....... old. No new Mustangs, but that doesn't really surprise me. I doubt a Ford dealership in the snowbelt would want their '10 allocation to start showing up in March. In fact, I think they only had one Mustang on the lot. Maybe better to have only one parked on the showroom floor, that usually works as a good warm up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 If not, how long until that's true? As long as things don't get any worse with a possible bankruptcy of Chrysler or GM, and also assuming that things don't get any better with respect to sales, Ford will need some type of outside funding sometime during the first quarter of next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCSpeedster Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I also like what I see! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-150 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 So Hyundai / Kia asked for bailouts ?? news to me. depends if you consider currency manipulation and protectionist trade practices to be government bailout or not. Of course there are those multi-millions in state subsidies for new plants in the states. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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