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Penske should take over GM's position in NUMMI


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Roger Penske should approach "Motors Liquidation Corporation" about taking up their end of NUMMI with Toyota to continue with the collaboration of design that results in Pontiacs' Vibe and Toyotas' Matrix. One of the few bright spots in the defunct line up from Pontiac should continue on as a Saturn.

 

I am sure this would make Toyota breathe a sigh of relief and I would be willing to bet that Fremont California would willing to help make this happen also.

 

Thoughts??

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Would the "baggage" allow it to be worthwhile?

 

Plant in a high cost location

UAW contractual obligations

having to use a platform and design from a competitor

 

The big question - would it fit in with the the Penske plan for Saturn?

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Problem for the Pontiac Vibe as a Saturn, it would be competing in the Opel Astra hatchback's space. One would have to go. Granted, the Astra would get my vote to go.

 

The other problem is that PEnske would have to pay for a restyling of the vibe to better fit with the rest of Saturn. So, that's...

 

Pay to refresh the just refreshed Matrix

Pay to have the plant make the modifications to produce said matrix version

Pay the suppliers to modify their stuff.

Pay the Union to keep working

 

That's a lot of jack for a small margin car that's not likely to sell much better than the Astra.

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After seeing the lengths some organizations will go to save jobs and facilities...you don't think that the city of Fremont, the state of California, the UAW, and Toyota will bend over backwards to save this investment? Roger Penske would be hailed as a hero in California if he were to step in and save that plant from closure....it has the "bones" to become the new "Spring Hill" plant

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Some think Penske has trillions of dollars laying around to 'save plants' in Delaware and NUMMI. He said he really doesnt want to be involved in making cars, just selling rebadges of anything he can get from cheaper labor.

 

Also, I'd bet Toyota is actaully happy to get far away from the UAW.

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you don't think that the city of Fremont, the state of California,

 

The city of Fremont and the state of California don't have enough money to pay their utility bills at this point so dishing out more to a plant that no one wants to be in is probably out of the question. Toyota and whoever the other half might be would probably ask for a kings ransom to stay to make sure that they could leave that money-losing plant for good.

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Some think Penske has trillions of dollars laying around to 'save plants' in Delaware and NUMMI. He said he really doesnt want to be involved in making cars, just selling rebadges of anything he can get from cheaper labor.

 

Also, I'd bet Toyota is actaully happy to get far away from the UAW.

...sounds like someone has a problem with a Unionized workforce....Roger Penske needs good solid vehicles in his lineup...not cheap-o crap that would be sold at Wal-Mart....I am sure re-badges of the linked "crumple-mobile" would sell like hotcakes in your area....cheap cars for cheapskates...enjoy your ride to the morgue :hysterical:

 

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...sounds like someone has a problem with a Unionized workforce....Roger Penske needs good solid vehicles in his lineup...not cheap-o crap that would be sold at Wal-Mart....I am sure re-badges of the linked "crumple-mobile" would sell like hotcakes in your area....cheap cars for cheapskates...enjoy your ride to the morgue :hysterical:

 

 

If you want to rave against "crumple-mobiles," you probably shouldn't use the Pontiac Vibe as a counterargument.

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"Roger Penske needs good solid vehicles in his lineup...not cheap-o crap that would be sold at Wal-Mart.."

 

BUT, he is NOT getting into the manufacturing business and stated such. Look it up under "www.notgonnahappen.com" *

 

Anyone expecting some trillionare American 'savior' to save old GM or Mopar plants is living in the 'State of Denial'.

 

* Used many times by Autoextremist

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"Roger Penske needs good solid vehicles in his lineup...not cheap-o crap that would be sold at Wal-Mart.."

 

BUT, he is NOT getting into the manufacturing business and stated such. Look it up under "www.notgonnahappen.com" *

 

Anyone expecting some trillionare American 'savior' to save old GM or Mopar plants is living in the 'State of Denial'.

 

* Used many times by Autoextremist

630land....the only "flaw" in your argument is that NUMMI is not an old GM plant....rather a newer state of the art Toyota plant that just happened to manufacture GM cars as well....huge difference.....Toyota could still run the show...Penske could slot in as a "consumer" needing a product for his new Saturn line....it isn't Rogers' millions that will save that plant...it is the fact that he needs a reliable lineup and NUMMI could just fit that bill.

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