MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 http://www.freep.com/article/20090817/BUSI...eam-meets-today Be sure to read the reader comments at the bottom of the page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damagedone37 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 http://www.freep.com/article/20090817/BUSI...eam-meets-today Be sure to read the reader comments at the bottom of the page. I like the guy that says we make 130k a year...wtf! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLINADAZEWORK Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I like the guy that says we make 130k a year...wtf! dont you remember we make $ 70.00 hr x 2000 hrs = $ 140000.00 year , now if Obama care takes over we can go back to making $ 28.00 hr x 2000 hrs = $ 56000.00 feel better :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rufus1272 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 I thought we already made 28.00 hr lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damagedone37 Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 dont you remember we make $ 70.00 hr x 2000 hrs = $ 140000.00 year , now if Obama care takes over we can go back to making $ 28.00 hr x 2000 hrs = $ 56000.00 feel better :reading: If you are talking about benefits that's one thing, but it sure doesn't say 70.000 in my base rate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-lo Saline Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 If you are talking about benefits that's one thing, but it sure doesn't say 70.000 in my base rate. Your base pay rate ,Plus benny's ,they claim is about $65-70 per hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordworker Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 they want another pay cut then we want this..all new cars built in the US including engine,trans,stamp and most suppliers.. and 5 years of full pay for any job outsourced to mexico or china.. so ford can either bring back the Fusion to LAP or Wixom and the block castings back to brook park or pay everyone 5 years or pay.... screw the concessions until the ford family gives up there fortune we aint giving up our pay.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEagle Posted August 17, 2009 Share Posted August 17, 2009 they want another pay cut then we want this..all new cars built in the US including engine,trans,stamp and most suppliers.. and 5 years of full pay for any job outsourced to mexico or china.. so ford can either bring back the Fusion to LAP or Wixom and the block castings back to brook park or pay everyone 5 years or pay.... screw the concessions until the ford family gives up there fortune we aint giving up our pay.... I talked to Jeff Terry today on the phone and he said that there is no meeting today but there is one next week. No details on even what they are meeting on. Jeff believes the committe will probably review the GM and Chrysler agreements to make sure Ford is competitive in the long term ( which Jeff believes we are). The only place he said we might be a little out of line, is on entry level employee language, we are not the same level on that i guess. He also said we should at least take a look at it so we dont screw ourselves out of new work. (I have to agree) "we can bargain ourselves out of jobs" New work would have to be in any conversation we have, otherwise why even talk? If Ford dont hire it is a mute point isnt it? I am glad our Pres understands where we are all at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted August 17, 2009 Author Share Posted August 17, 2009 The Detroit Free Press has corrected the story. They now say the meeting is next week. http://www.freep.com/article/20090817/BUSI...et-is-next-week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildosvt Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 The Detroit Free Press has corrected the story. They now say the meeting is next week. http://www.freep.com/article/20090817/BUSI...et-is-next-week Thanx. Goes to show, You can't always believe the media! :happy feet: Eat that grilled crow bitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Wahrheit Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 I talked to Jeff Terry today on the phone and he said that there is no meeting today but there is one next week. No details on even what they are meeting on. Jeff believes the committe will probably review the GM and Chrysler agreements to make sure Ford is competitive in the long term ( which Jeff believes we are). The only place he said we might be a little out of line, is on entry level employee language, we are not the same level on that i guess. He also said we should at least take a look at it so we dont screw ourselves out of new work. (I have to agree) "we can bargain ourselves out of jobs" New work would have to be in any conversation we have, otherwise why even talk? If Ford dont hire it is a mute point isnt it? I am glad our Pres understands where we are all at. Part of the talks is that Ford wants to close more assembly plants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordworker Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 Part of the talks is that Ford wants to close more assembly plants. fuck that.. we already got new work guarantees "TWICE" we dont need a 3rd promise... Ford is looking to put the Transit and Transit Connect in Mexico thats what I was told....if true then we need to strike now enough outsourcing already...that move would seal the closing of avon lake and KC plus stamping plants.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 18, 2009 Share Posted August 18, 2009 If you are talking about benefits that's one thing, but it sure doesn't say 70.000 in my base rate. Not even that equals $70/hr. They get that number by adding up our average base rate, price of benefits, the retirees pension payouts, retiree benefits, surviving spouse benefits, and anything else wage related and then dividing that number by ONLY the amount of ACTIVE employees. So with that number, we make around $70/hr....... It's just more sensationalist FOX News garbage meant to inflame rather than report accurate news......... The really sad part is that people are spoon-fed this sh!t by the anti-union crowd and they believe it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster6969 Posted August 21, 2009 Share Posted August 21, 2009 I talked to Jeff Terry today on the phone and he said that there is no meeting today but there is one next week. No details on even what they are meeting on. Jeff believes the committe will probably review the GM and Chrysler agreements to make sure Ford is competitive in the long term ( which Jeff believes we are). The only place he said we might be a little out of line, is on entry level employee language, we are not the same level on that i guess. He also said we should at least take a look at it so we dont screw ourselves out of new work. (I have to agree) "we can bargain ourselves out of jobs" New work would have to be in any conversation we have, otherwise why even talk? If Ford dont hire it is a mute point isnt it? I am glad our Pres understands where we are all at. Did they meet or what? National must not be on vacation!! WTF! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Not even that equals $70/hr. They get that number by adding up our average base rate, price of benefits, the retirees pension payouts, retiree benefits, surviving spouse benefits, and anything else wage related and then dividing that number by ONLY the amount of ACTIVE employees. So with that number, we make around $70/hr....... It's just more sensationalist FOX News garbage meant to inflame rather than report accurate news......... The really sad part is that people are spoon-fed this sh!t by the anti-union crowd and they believe it! How is it they arrive at the same numbers they did, before 2 concessionary contracts have been passed? No more Cost Of Living allowances, no more joint programs, no more JSP, Reductions in payed holidays, no more bonus incentives, no more Christmas bonuses, No, more Profit sharing/performance bonuses, liability for active employee's health care coverage shifted to the employees, Union takes on retiree health care liability legacy costs. We take all of these cuts, and somehow you still use the same false numbers, get f-cking real! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganTruck_Mafia Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 (edited) The meeting is today. Ford is to meet with UAW officials today to discuss Ford's UAW labor contract. Ford declined to comment Monday but has previously said the talks would center on the operating side of its labor agreement, which refers to the wages and benefits for hourly union workers. http://www.freep.com/article/20090825/BUSI...W-leaders-today Edited August 25, 2009 by MichiganTruck_Mafia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 The meeting is today. Thanks for pointing that out. GM's contract also established three main skilled-trades classifications: electrical, mechanical and tool and die I'm real leary of this. Hopefully Lev or Cap or someone in the know can keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 How is it they arrive at the same numbers they did, before 2 concessionary contracts have been passed? No more Cost Of Living allowances, no more joint programs, no more JSP, Reductions in payed holidays, no more bonus incentives, no more Christmas bonuses, No, more Profit sharing/performance bonuses, liability for active employee's health care coverage shifted to the employees, Union takes on retiree health care liability legacy costs. We take all of these cuts, and somehow you still use the same false numbers, get f-cking real! WHOA!!!! Easy there tiger!!!!! I'm not throwing these out as fact....... AND I'm not saying that I agree with this number, because I don't... I think it's complete bullshit, I'm just relating how these jagbags at FOX news and every other right wing POS "news" outlet get their numbers. We're on the same side here........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diecaster Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Was told today by a very reliable source that Uncle Ron was willing to agree to give up our left nuts, or ovaries and that in return he expected nothing but to let us be bent over and dry humped. Also we are going to have to start paying Ford instead of them paying us. ENOUGH IS FUCKING ENOUGH. CAN YOU HEAR THAT RONNY? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soupy Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 Was told today by a very reliable source that Uncle Ron was willing to agree to give up our left nuts, or ovaries and that in return he expected nothing but to let us be bent over and dry humped. Also we are going to have to start paying Ford instead of them paying us. ENOUGH IS FUCKING ENOUGH. CAN YOU HEAR THAT RONNY? ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The only thing more useless than reading that was replying to it. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 The only thing more useless than reading that was replying to it. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diecaster Posted August 26, 2009 Share Posted August 26, 2009 You fuckers know you love me, yes I said LOVE ME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecilmeyer Posted August 27, 2009 Share Posted August 27, 2009 I like the guy that says we make 130k a year...wtf!You do if you are an international rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400member Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 leave him alone he's worried about losing his ovaries!!!!! Rumor has it, that 20% of staff is going to get disappointed. You think they are worried about their ovaries??? Back to work on the floor. What do you supose is going on in their minds?? Hoping for a special election where ever they land I bet!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecilmeyer Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 How is it they arrive at the same numbers they did, before 2 concessionary contracts have been passed? No more Cost Of Living allowances, no more joint programs, no more JSP, Reductions in payed holidays, no more bonus incentives, no more Christmas bonuses, No, more Profit sharing/performance bonuses, liability for active employee's health care coverage shifted to the employees, Union takes on retiree health care liability legacy costs. We take all of these cuts, and somehow you still use the same false numbers, get f-cking real! I may be wrong but I think we still have profit sharing.It was the one thing the uaw did not give up.That being said I am sure they will find a way as usual to show they did not make a profit thereby not paying any out regardless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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