Ckr01 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hello all; I took the buyout in 03-08, and thanks to the economy tanking, and me not being as ready as I should have, I am in deep doo doo, and find that I am in need of a decent paying job.If the opportunity occurs, can retiree's return to the MAP / Wayne ISA to work? I can't find a job around here, it's either my age, 55, or because I'm a union man ?? I go to plenty of interviews, but no callbacks..... Thanks Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condor Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hello all; I took the buyout in 03-08, and thanks to the economy tanking, and me not being as ready as I should have, I am in deep doo doo, and find that I am in need of a decent paying job.If the opportunity occurs, can retiree's return to the MAP / Wayne ISA to work? I can't find a job around here, it's either my age, 55, or because I'm a union man ?? I go to plenty of interviews, but no callbacks..... Thanks Don I think you may be fucked. Good luck to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400member Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hello all; I took the buyout in 03-08, and thanks to the economy tanking, and me not being as ready as I should have, I am in deep doo doo, and find that I am in need of a decent paying job.If the opportunity occurs, can retiree's return to the MAP / Wayne ISA to work? I can't find a job around here, it's either my age, 55, or because I'm a union man ?? I go to plenty of interviews, but no callbacks..... Thanks Don Don, Don't let this condor fellow get you down. go out and get some retraining money from the state and add some skills. NO worker left behind, grants. Invest in yourself. What about classes at your local? Get your Local to sponsor some, that is what the UaW is about, in my mind!! there are jobs out there. 55 does not mean dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condor Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Don, Don't let this condor fellow get you down. go out and get some retraining money from the state and add some skills. NO worker left behind, grants. Invest in yourself. What about classes at your local? Get your Local to sponsor some, that is what the UaW is about, in my mind!! there are jobs out there. 55 does not mean dead. I'm not trying to get him down Lenny, I just think he's not going to be able to return to the plant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmpp Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I believe you can come back only if openings are available, like anybody else on the street and you will be hired in at a second tier wager for pay. I'm sure you can find many other jobs for that pay. I swould suggest take something your good at and take advantage of the programs available out there and get a certifiable skill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 I believe you can come back only if openings are available, like anybody else on the street and you will be hired in at a second tier wager for pay. I'm sure you can find many other jobs for that pay. I swould suggest take something your good at and take advantage of the programs available out there and get a certifiable skill. He can not come back as a Ford employee, law prohibits it, if he is collecting a pension from Ford, he can not work for Ford. Do not want to give anyone false hope!! There are however opportunities to be retrained.....I would suggest taking advantage of some training that Granholm has given us Michiganders!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forddaughter Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 He can not come back as a Ford employee, law prohibits it, if he is collecting a pension from Ford, he can not work for Ford. Do not want to give anyone false hope!! There are however opportunities to be retrained.....I would suggest taking advantage of some training that Granholm has given us Michiganders!! Not down here in Ohio. My dad could return to Sandusky ACH as a Millwright even though he retired from Ford 3 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Not down here in Ohio. My dad could return to Sandusky ACH as a Millwright even though he retired from Ford 3 years ago. As a Ford employee though ? or through another contractor/supplier ? I know for sure there are plenty that have taken buy outs or retirement and then got a job with the contractors, hell one of the ACH plant's Chairman/President is a retiree that hired back in as a outsourced/ACH employee heh. Not saying it is impossible but that would all depend on how many are left on ILO, do not forget if Ford is able to sell some of the ACH facilities expect it to be impossible once all those on loans to those plants will need to be re filtered back into Ford facilities first before they go out and get entry level employees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glow Posted January 2, 2010 Share Posted January 2, 2010 Hello all; I took the buyout in 03-08, and thanks to the economy tanking, and me not being as ready as I should have, I am in deep doo doo, and find that I am in need of a decent paying job.If the opportunity occurs, can retiree's return to the MAP / Wayne ISA to work? I can't find a job around here, it's either my age, 55, or because I'm a union man ?? I go to plenty of interviews, but no callbacks..... Thanks Don Don....... GM is about to hire the $14 folks in MI. go to the MESC or Mich Works. Good Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldFordJim Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I retired in 2000. Just before I left, I was told Ibetter be sure because once you're gone, there's no going back. No changing your mind, you're done. Now salaried is different. In the late 90's, Livonia Trans called back some supervisors that had retired a few months earlier. They were back for like a 6 month run and were paid pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
182 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Livonia trans is calling back supervisors again to run the 4R until it goes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fordtpworker1993 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 He can not come back as a Ford employee, law prohibits it, What law is that? salaried folks come back all the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Not down here in Ohio. My dad could return to Sandusky ACH as a Millwright even though he retired from Ford 3 years ago. That is because he retired from Ford, and is now working for ACH under the Visteon contract. Two separate companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 What law is that? salaried folks come back all the time... Either their pension payouts stop or they come back to work as a consultant through a different company. Ford pays company "B" and company "B" pays the employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbldbxorntnap Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Either their pension payouts stop or they come back to work as a consultant through a different company. Ford pays company "B" and company "B" pays the employee. Your right, we had a QC guy for incoming metal from the stamping plants that retired from NAP, and he got a job as a Liason consultant from one of the stamping plants to work with metal issues at NAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michigander Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 We are all laid off next week at WAP,ISA and, looks like we are going to be off one week a month for awile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Not down here in Ohio. My dad could return to Sandusky ACH as a Millwright even though he retired from Ford 3 years ago. He is not a Ford worker, he is a Visteon Temp worker loaned to ACH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400member Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 I'm not trying to get him down Lenny, I just think he's not going to be able to return to the plant. Lenny?? I don't disagree with you, but my intent was to let Dn getinto some training. But, let's look at another iss since you brought it up.. tony and other presidents may have set a precedent by retiring nad reamining in office inder special agreements made with ford by some UAW staff and allowed by some intl officers. As retire member, the same as some local officers, you should petition the Intl UAW and Ford for equal application of the contract(the clause is in the national CBA), or contracts. Even the side agreeemnets that we now know, are there, allowing retirees to have a relationship with the company. the flood gates have been opened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nextup Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Livonia trans is calling back supervisors again to run the 4R until it goes out. And they will get paid very, very handsomely just ask them you will surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 And they will get paid very, very handsomely just ask them you will surprised. only through an agency!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400member Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 only through an agency!! so how do we sign up???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rn4 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 so how do we sign up???? If you had kissed the right ass, no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
400member Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 If you had kissed the right ass, no problem. Now we know the cap'n isn't gonna tell us that...! If he has the right way to go, he'll tell us. and if he doesn't know he'll tell us.. right Cap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain723 Posted January 4, 2010 Share Posted January 4, 2010 so how do we sign up???? Take a buy out and I will tell you :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ckr01 Posted January 4, 2010 Author Share Posted January 4, 2010 Take a buy out and I will tell you :shades: I took the buyout...SO TELL ME !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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