rawsonville

[factoryrat67]

Has anyone heard if rawsonv ille is getting the battery work, I thought there was going to be an announcement last fri and I havnt heard

[SU-FI]

Has anyone heard if rawsonv ille is getting the battery work, I thought there was going to be an announcement last fri and I havnt heard

 

I doubt it, chriper said rawsonville was closing

[toolmandano]

Has anyone heard if rawsonv ille is getting the battery work, I thought there was going to be an announcement last fri and I havnt heard

 

 

First I heard it was going to Michigan assembly, then early this week I heard it was given to Rawsonville. Good news if it is true, that is my home plant. Though I have never worked there I was transfered there and put in to jin the same day. Out of the 1000 jobs that product brings I would like to know how many trades and how many of each. My thoughts are they will fill those jobs with the $14 an hour people, hope I'm wrong.

[tool&dyin in monroe]

First I heard it was going to Michigan assembly, then early this week I heard it was given to Rawsonville. Good news if it is true, that is my home plant. Though I have never worked there I was transfered there and put in to jin the same day. Out of the 1000 jobs that product brings I would like to know how many trades and how many of each. My thoughts are they will fill those jobs with the $14 an hour people, hope I'm wrong.

 

 

Is Monroe in the mix for the battery opperation too???

[Pioneer]

Is Monroe in the mix for the battery opperation too???

 

 

It could be. The soil is so contaminated from the plating operations that it would be hard to sell it.

 

Although, I seriously doubt it will get it, I hope it does and the Union can get RTBU rights back to the members that had to leave there.

[jerrymaker]

Can't hire $14 an hour people til all ILO is placed......By the time the battery jobs come available,there could be people ILO since the Rouge is loosing the Frame plant and Gas Tank Line sometime this year!..

 

 

When the ILO'ed refuse to go to the line or relocate,then what? do we wait for them to make up there mind.

[louie]

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Edited January 28, 2010 by louie

[toolmandano]

Is Monroe in the mix for the battery opperation too???

 

 

Last I heard was Rawsonville is getting the work. I'm not sure about Monroe. Spreading the wealth is a good thing, however its slim pickings lately. My thoughts are that if Rawsonville is getting the job its doomed to fail right out of the gate. Rawsonville took all of Ypsilanti's money making jobs and ran them into the ground. Ypsilanti was a money making machine, tops in its class across the board and they still shut her down. Does Ford really want its North America operation? One thing for sure, they are trying to copy Chinas relationship towards their employees.

[milankid]

Once they refuse,they are no longer considered ILO,they are considered gone.....

 

Read in the det news yesterday cap is suppose to get 1200 and the first 600 r supposed to be given to the 600 on ilo, want happens if some of the 600 iloed ford workers dont take it thou???

[louie]

Read in the det news yesterday cap is suppose to get 1200 and the first 600 r supposed to be given to the 600 on ilo, want happens if some of the 600 iloed ford workers dont take it thou???

 

 

Zone wide seniority is implemented. The higher seniority ILO will Bump Low seniority working in zone. Thw bumped low seniority will go to Chicago or go to inactive status.

 

This is the way it was explained to me.

Edited January 28, 2010 by louie

[PFA]

Just how did Rawsonville run the jobs into the ground? and how would you know, you are not even there, or like you said have never really worked there! COP runs more quality parts than it did over at Ypsi, less rejects. Same with Starter. These are all JUNK machines brought over and we were told to run them and make them work better. PLEASE. These machines have never put out more quality parts!

 

Rawsonville took all of Ypsilanti's money making jobs and ran them into the ground.

[jerrymaker]

Last I heard was Rawsonville is getting the work. I'm not sure about Monroe. Spreading the wealth is a good thing, however its slim pickings lately. My thoughts are that if Rawsonville is getting the job its doomed to fail right out of the gate. Rawsonville took all of Ypsilanti's money making jobs and ran them into the ground. Ypsilanti was a money making machine, tops in its class across the board and they still shut her down. Does Ford really want its North America operation? One thing for sure, they are trying to copy Chinas relationship towards their employees.

 

 

This guy know some sh#*

[chriper]

Just how did Rawsonville run the jobs into the ground? and how would you know, you are not even there, or like you said have never really worked there! COP runs more quality parts than it did over at Ypsi, less rejects. Same with Starter. These are all JUNK machines brought over and we were told to run them and make them work better. PLEASE. These machines have never put out more quality parts!

 

 

 

 

but remember pfa ,,the people who came with that work were told raws was just a waiting point on the way to their final destination ,livonia,,,just walk in there and ask those who came with the work!,,,

[chriper]

I doubt it, chriper said rawsonville was closing

 

 

where is your old saviour joelly at?????remember his campain promise ,WE WEATHERED THE LAST STORM WE CAN THIS ONE TOOO!!!!!!!! only problem is... hes so busy getting his woman a sweet job with a vendor and setting him self up for myrtle beach condo action ,,,he doesnt have time for you and me,,folks i have never changed my tune,,i have always said joel didnt have our best interest at heart..he hasnt for years,,rawsonville was a great place to be,,but thats the past,the only one who is smiling here now is joel,,because he conned enough people into voting for him with his scary times platform,,truth is,, what will be,, will be,, no matter what god joel says and the future is as it may be,putting him back in as plant chair did nothing ,but give him and his bride a gravy train ride on us,,,half of us are farmed out acroos the region,but joelly still walks the plant floor saying all is good,,i cant figure out if he is mixing his viagra up with his reality pills,,cause his vision of empty floor space ,,sure is different than mine

[dukeofearl]

where is your old saviour joelly at?????remember his campain promise ,WE WEATHERED THE LAST STORM WE CAN THIS ONE TOOO!!!!!!!! only problem is... hes so busy getting his woman a sweet job with a vendor and setting him self up for myrtle beach condo action ,,,he doesnt have time for you and me,,folks i have never changed my tune,,i have always said joel didnt have our best interest at heart..he hasnt for years,,rawsonville was a great place to be,,but thats the past,the only one who is smiling here now is joel,,because he conned enough people into voting for him with his scary times platform,,truth is,, what will be,, will be,, no matter what god joel says and the future is as it may be,putting him back in as plant chair did nothing ,but give him and his bride a gravy train ride on us,,,half of us are farmed out acroos the region,but joelly still walks the plant floor saying all is good,,i cant figure out if he is mixing his viagra up with his reality pills,,cause his vision of empty floor space ,,sure is different than mine

What did i miss what vendor did she get a job with remember there are no jobs out there. Besides if the labor board was to find out a person would be in big trouble.You can't use that job in such a matter there are pages apon pages on the subject. It.s hard for me to believe that he don.t care about us anymore he is keeping the millwrights busy into converting the plant into a warehouse. Thats jobs for someone we have stuff from all over the country. They are almost done WHIPSAWING the battery job all over the place to see who will do what and at what price. IT will be like a awards show and the envelope please. This plant will do it at 14.00 and they will only use two trades MECH tech and electricians and the work rules well lets just say nothing comes without a price.So with that being said myrtle beach looks pretty damn good to me. This is not my FATHERS UAW anymore. I here tell of a local in ohio that said they would man the battery line with all displaced trades and they would fix it when it broke down just to get the work. The problem is the battery grant is in michigan not ohio or the envelope would be red and white. Well i guess we just need to wait and see its not over until its over

[Forever ford]

Just how did Rawsonville run the jobs into the ground? and how would you know, you are not even there, or like you said have never really worked there! COP runs more quality parts than it did over at Ypsi, less rejects. Same with Starter. These are all JUNK machines brought over and we were told to run them and make them work better. PLEASE. These machines have never put out more quality parts!

Yes and we all know rawsonville Reputation for Quality - tell me what happened to wiper motor ya I know big recall on those huh, oh well let that one go, know it a sore spot for all ya rottenvillers. What about die cast and Altenator ya you guy lost all those jobs all on your own Ypsi peeps had nothin to do with those. In fact if rottenville did get ypsi jobs you guys would have NONE! And as far as Coil on Plug for the amount you guys put out now is nothin compared to what we use to put out years ago remember coil on plug has been around for 10 yrs. or more oh wait you wouldn't know that either.

[leftski]

Yes and we all know rawsonville Reputation for Quality - tell me what happened to wiper motor ya I know big recall on those huh, oh well let that one go, know it a sore spot for all ya rottenvillers. What about die cast and Altenator ya you guy lost all those jobs all on your own Ypsi peeps had nothin to do with those. In fact if rottenville did get ypsi jobs you guys would have NONE! And as far as Coil on Plug for the amount you guys put out now is nothin compared to what we use to put out years ago remember coil on plug has been around for 10 yrs. or more oh wait you wouldn't know that either.

 

The recall that you talk about for wiper motors was not the fault of Rawsonville's union employees, it was a mangement decision to purchase a part from an outside vendor that was the problem. In an effort to save money they went with an untested part that failed. As for die cast and alternator, all of the equipment for that product was worn out for years. Management would not put any budget money into machinery repairs or updates. Our proud union employees did the best they could with what was given them to work with. Don't blame them, blame the people that allowed this to happen.

[Forever ford]

The recall that you talk about for wiper motors was not the fault of Rawsonville's union employees, it was a mangement decision to purchase a part from an outside vendor that was the problem. In an effort to save money they went with an untested part that failed. As for die cast and alternator, all of the equipment for that product was worn out for years. Management would not put any budget money into machinery repairs or updates. Our proud union employees did the best they could with what was given them to work with. Don't blame them, blame the people that allowed this to happen.

I was at Rawsonville wiper motor was not a vendor problem. It was an engineering problem with a grease, and they were told to run the parts anyway, ya maybe they could have should have but is toooo late now. As fas as blamin rawsonville, in no way do I blame rawsonville employees. I wish they could have kept there jobs cause I would still be there now. I'm just staten some facts. Ya there Products may have had age on them, But they lost them due to the fact they could make em cheap enough. And they were taken somewhere else. But I don't blame them. If they did the best job they could then they did! Ypsi people did the best they could to keep there jobs there too but it just wasn't enough. I think the books were stacked already.

[SU-FI]

I was at Rawsonville wiper motor was not a vendor problem. It was an engineering problem with a grease, and they were told to run the parts anyway, ya maybe they could have should have but is toooo late now. As fas as blamin rawsonville, in no way do I blame rawsonville employees. I wish they could have kept there jobs cause I would still be there now. I'm just staten some facts. Ya there Products may have had age on them, But they lost them due to the fact they could make em cheap enough. And they were taken somewhere else. But I don't blame them. If they did the best job they could then they did! Ypsi people did the best they could to keep there jobs there too but it just wasn't enough. I think the books were stacked already.

 

that was a different incident, i helped rebuild the 400k wiper motor covers that was referred to, the grease issue happend a long time after

[chriper]

I doubt it, chriper said rawsonville was closing

 

 

so now lets talk real,,,you all have read the news about aai,,,lap and others,,,joelly has us out on rolling tlo:s,,,we are screwed beyond belief ,,,stop and think ,,you must be on ilo to move,,,if everyone else places there people and we are just happy on tlo:S and then the ilo:s come we have no where to go,,,,last time i checked my paystub 39 weeks and starting to go down thanks joel,,,i know like you said ,,,,

[chriper]

I doubt it, chriper said rawsonville was closing

 

 

>so now lets talk real,,,you all have read the news about aai,,,lap and others,,,joelly has us out on rolling tlo:s,,,we are screwed beyond belief ,,,stop and think ,,you must be on ilo to move,,,if everyone else places there people and we are just happy on tlo: and then the ilo:s come we have no where to go,,,,last time i checked my paystub said; 39 weeks{sub} and starting to go down thanks joel,,,i know like you said ,,,,your are the last man out the door and thats all thats counts

[SU-FI]

>so now lets talk real,,,you all have read the news about aai,,,lap and others,,,joelly has us out on rolling tlo:s,,,we are screwed beyond belief ,,,stop and think ,,you must be on ilo to move,,,if everyone else places there people and we are just happy on tlo: and then the ilo:s come we have no where to go,,,,last time i checked my paystub said; 39 weeks{sub} and starting to go down thanks joel,,,i know like you said ,,,,your are the last man out the door and thats all thats counts

 

 

you'll have somewhere to go when you go on ILO, you'll take the spot of the lowest seniority in another plant when your sub runs out.

[ALEX4398]

you'll have somewhere to go when you go on ILO, you'll take the spot of the lowest seniority in another plant when your sub runs out.

 

SU-FI I am not sure what your local union told you but that is not the case. I was out that long and could bump no one from another plant. I finally was offered a temp posting at AAI but that to seems to be coming to an end.

[fordguy723]

you'll have somewhere to go when you go on ILO, you'll take the spot of the lowest seniority in another plant when your sub runs out.

The only way you can bump someone in zone is if you are forced to a job out of zone, then you can exercise your bumping rights and make the lowest senority person in your zone to take the out of zone job, then you take there job.

[Glow]

The only way you can bump someone in zone is if you are forced to a job out of zone, then you can exercise your bumping rights and make the lowest senority person in your zone to take the out of zone job, then you take there job.

 

 

See we gotta go through this ALL over again. I thought after the big layoffs in the 80's happened that was the end of the moving, and shoveling. I hope we get placed in MI.