louie Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 UAW's King: Collective bargaining critical for America Bob King The United Auto Workers union recently reached agreements with both Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. that will create thousands of good jobs for American workers. Working with the UAW, these companies agreed to bring production jobs back from Mexico, China, Japan and other nations — welcome news for communities from Tennessee to Indiana, Missouri to Michigan. These agreements illustrate the critical and positive role that collective bargaining plays in strengthening our middle class. When the UAW bargaining teams sat down with management, their primary goal was jobs — to protect the jobs of our members; bring jobs back to the United States; and create new jobs. These agreements call for the creation of 6,400 more jobs at GM and 12,000 jobs at Ford. Since each auto manufacturing job creates or supports another 10 jobs in other businesses, the two agreements at Ford and GM are helping to create nearly 170,000 jobs for Americans. The new investments in American plants and the transfer of work from factories abroad to our own communities will lift local economies during these difficult times. In recent years, the right wing has demonized the process of collective bargaining. While targeting public sector workers, they have also attacked the right of private sector workers to organize and bargain. The right wing view is that bargaining is destructive to our economy or even un-American. Nothing could be further from the truth. Collective bargaining created the American middle class in the first place, and if we are to restore our middle class, it will be through expanding bargaining throughout our economy. Collective bargaining is the vehicle through which working people have a voice at work. Too often without countervailing input, executives make decisions based on short-term profit seeking, not on what's best for the company or our nation, in the long term. No one has a stronger self-interest in the success of the company than the workers. CEOs come and go, often with lucrative golden parachutes; managers pursue their own career advantages; stockholders buy or sell to make the most money; but the workers are here for the long-run and have the most at risk if the company fails. Through collective bargaining, workers have a check and balance on short-term corporate profit-seeking. This balance benefits not only workers but also our communities and even the company's shareholders. Collective bargaining works. The UAW has demonstrated that by giving workers a voice, we can create jobs, rebuild the American manufacturing sector and restore the American middle class. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheetMetalJoe Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 UAW's King: Collective bargaining critical for America Bob King The United Auto Workers union recently reached agreements with both Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. that will create thousands of good jobs for American workers. Working with the UAW, these companies agreed to bring production jobs back from Mexico, China, Japan and other nations — welcome news for communities from Tennessee to Indiana, Missouri to Michigan. These agreements illustrate the critical and positive role that collective bargaining plays in strengthening our middle class. When the UAW bargaining teams sat down with management, their primary goal was jobs — to protect the jobs of our members; bring jobs back to the United States; and create new jobs. These agreements call for the creation of 6,400 more jobs at GM and 12,000 jobs at Ford. Since each auto manufacturing job creates or supports another 10 jobs in other businesses, the two agreements at Ford and GM are helping to create nearly 170,000 jobs for Americans. The new investments in American plants and the transfer of work from factories abroad to our own communities will lift local economies during these difficult times. In recent years, the right wing has demonized the process of collective bargaining. While targeting public sector workers, they have also attacked the right of private sector workers to organize and bargain. The right wing view is that bargaining is destructive to our economy or even un-American. Nothing could be further from the truth. Collective bargaining created the American middle class in the first place, and if we are to restore our middle class, it will be through expanding bargaining throughout our economy. Collective bargaining is the vehicle through which working people have a voice at work. Too often without countervailing input, executives make decisions based on short-term profit seeking, not on what's best for the company or our nation, in the long term. No one has a stronger self-interest in the success of the company than the workers. CEOs come and go, often with lucrative golden parachutes; managers pursue their own career advantages; stockholders buy or sell to make the most money; but the workers are here for the long-run and have the most at risk if the company fails. Through collective bargaining, workers have a check and balance on short-term corporate profit-seeking. This balance benefits not only workers but also our communities and even the company's shareholders. Collective bargaining works. The UAW has demonstrated that by giving workers a voice, we can create jobs, rebuild the American manufacturing sector and restore the American middle class. How about we make sure to keep the jobs we already have, THEN worry about creating new ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Real? Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 UAW's King: Collective bargaining critical for America Bob King The United Auto Workers union recently reached agreements with both Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. that will create thousands of good jobs for American workers. Working with the UAW, these companies agreed to bring production jobs back from Mexico, China, Japan and other nations — welcome news for communities from Tennessee to Indiana, Missouri to Michigan. These agreements illustrate the critical and positive role that collective bargaining plays in strengthening our middle class. When the UAW bargaining teams sat down with management, their primary goal was jobs — to protect the jobs of our members; bring jobs back to the United States; and create new jobs. These agreements call for the creation of 6,400 more jobs at GM and 12,000 jobs at Ford. Since each auto manufacturing job creates or supports another 10 jobs in other businesses, the two agreements at Ford and GM are helping to create nearly 170,000 jobs for Americans. The new investments in American plants and the transfer of work from factories abroad to our own communities will lift local economies during these difficult times. In recent years, the right wing has demonized the process of collective bargaining. While targeting public sector workers, they have also attacked the right of private sector workers to organize and bargain. The right wing view is that bargaining is destructive to our economy or even un-American. Nothing could be further from the truth. Collective bargaining created the American middle class in the first place, and if we are to restore our middle class, it will be through expanding bargaining throughout our economy. Collective bargaining is the vehicle through which working people have a voice at work. Too often without countervailing input, executives make decisions based on short-term profit seeking, not on what's best for the company or our nation, in the long term. No one has a stronger self-interest in the success of the company than the workers. CEOs come and go, often with lucrative golden parachutes; managers pursue their own career advantages; stockholders buy or sell to make the most money; but the workers are here for the long-run and have the most at risk if the company fails. Through collective bargaining, workers have a check and balance on short-term corporate profit-seeking. This balance benefits not only workers but also our communities and even the company's shareholders. Collective bargaining works. The UAW has demonstrated that by giving workers a voice, we can create jobs, rebuild the American manufacturing sector and restore the American middle class. Yep, Collective bargaining does work and it works well in this agreement. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_A Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Collective Bargaining doesn't work, we see this when two out of the 3 big auto companies take bail out money and one remains profitable yet continues to not give back the concessions it took. IUAW it doesn't matter how many times you keep posting new topics under different usernames in this forum to try and talk us into voting yes it will not work. Still a NO VOTE This contract wont pass. Not enough meat to it. No raises for retirees Our break time isn't returned to us No substantial bonus amounts or up front signing (low balled again, they pulled the same crap in 2007) No COLA Trades continue to get screwed 2nd tier makes out we don't. Limitations on Sub Pay People currently out off the rolls are not getting anything The ONLY reason Ford didn't file for bankruptcy was that they had mortgaged the company to the hilt a couple of years BEFORE GM & Chrysler file for bankruptcy, not because they were profitable when GM & Chrysler weren't. Ford was losing money, too, then. Ford's labor rate, even if this contract passes, are higher than GM & Chrysler, plus still higher than all of the transplants. Ford also carries much more debt, at higher interest rates, than either GM or Chrysler. In fact, I'm pretty sure Ford carries more debt than GM & Chrysler do put together. Transplants don't pay COLA. Tranplants use "perma-temps" as their 2nd tier Transplants use more outside contractors than they do in-house trades. Transplants don't give their production employees any more break-time than the Detroit Three, including Ford, do. Transplants don't pay any SUB Pay. Transplant employees on ILO or TLO don't get paid any profit sharing or bonuses either. The need to remain competitive with the transplants, as much as it's a race to the bottom, is still as very much alive today as it was two, three and four years ago. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SU-FI Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 The ONLY reason Ford didn't file for bankruptcy was that they had mortgaged the company to the hilt a couple of years BEFORE GM & Chrysler file for bankruptcy, not because they were profitable when GM & Chrysler weren't. Ford was losing money, too, then. Ford's labor rate, even if this contract passes, are higher than GM & Chrysler, plus still higher than all of the transplants. Ford also carries much more debt, at higher interest rates, than either GM or Chrysler. In fact, I'm pretty sure Ford carries more debt than GM & Chrysler do put together. Transplants don't pay COLA. Tranplants use "perma-temps" as their 2nd tier Transplants use more outside contractors than they do in-house trades. Transplants don't give their production employees any more break-time than the Detroit Three, including Ford, do. Transplants don't pay any SUB Pay. Transplant employees on ILO or TLO don't get paid any profit sharing or bonuses either. The need to remain competitive with the transplants, as much as it's a race to the bottom, is still as very much alive today as it was two, three and four years ago. Do transplants CEO get tens if millions in bonuses? Do transplant companies give equal bonuses to supplier workers (ACH)? Do transplant companies have unions that care more about how much money they make then the workers they represent I.e. Getting a raise after workers give consessions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len_A Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Do transplants CEO get tens if millions in bonuses? Do transplant companies give equal bonuses to supplier workers (ACH)? Do transplant companies have unions that care more about how much money they make then the workers they represent I.e. Getting a raise after workers give consessions? Carlos Ghosn made, the last two years, for running Renault/Nissan, proportionally as much as Mulally, when you compare the size of Renault/Nissan to Ford. The rest of Japanese pay in the low millions, in actual cash, but the Japanese don't report all the perks as income, while over here EVERYTHING gets reported, as required by law, as income. Transplant companies do not give bonuses to their supplier employees or the perma-temps. The employees of the transplant companies have shown no interest in any union, not only rebuffing efforts by the UAW to organize them, but the Machinists union was rejected at the Mercedes Benz plant in Alabama. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonunion slug Posted October 8, 2011 Share Posted October 8, 2011 UAW's King: Collective bargaining critical for America Bob King The United Auto Workers union recently reached agreements with both Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. that will create thousands of good jobs for American workers. Working with the UAW, these companies agreed to bring production jobs back from Mexico, China, Japan and other nations — welcome news for communities from Tennessee to Indiana, Missouri to Michigan. These agreements illustrate the critical and positive role that collective bargaining plays in strengthening our middle class. When the UAW bargaining teams sat down with management, their primary goal was jobs — to protect the jobs of our members; bring jobs back to the United States; and create new jobs. These agreements call for the creation of 6,400 more jobs at GM and 12,000 jobs at Ford. Since each auto manufacturing job creates or supports another 10 jobs in other businesses, the two agreements at Ford and GM are helping to create nearly 170,000 jobs for Americans. The new investments in American plants and the transfer of work from factories abroad to our own communities will lift local economies during these difficult times. In recent years, the right wing has demonized the process of collective bargaining. While targeting public sector workers, they have also attacked the right of private sector workers to organize and bargain. The right wing view is that bargaining is destructive to our economy or even un-American. Nothing could be further from the truth. Collective bargaining created the American middle class in the first place, and if we are to restore our middle class, it will be through expanding bargaining throughout our economy. Collective bargaining is the vehicle through which working people have a voice at work. Too often without countervailing input, executives make decisions based on short-term profit seeking, not on what's best for the company or our nation, in the long term. No one has a stronger self-interest in the success of the company than the workers. CEOs come and go, often with lucrative golden parachutes; managers pursue their own career advantages; stockholders buy or sell to make the most money; but the workers are here for the long-run and have the most at risk if the company fails. Through collective bargaining, workers have a check and balance on short-term corporate profit-seeking. This balance benefits not only workers but also our communities and even the company's shareholders. Collective bargaining works. The UAW has demonstrated that by giving workers a voice, we can create jobs, rebuild the American manufacturing sector and restore the American middle class. If the salaried workers got collective bargaining and the gains you have received in this agreement, we would be ecstatic. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine Man Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 If the salaried workers got collective bargaining and the gains you have received in this agreement, we would be ecstatic. It seems you guys get it while some on here don't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonunion slug Posted October 9, 2011 Share Posted October 9, 2011 Carlos Ghosn made, the last two years, for running Renault/Nissan, proportionally as much as Mulally, when you compare the size of Renault/Nissan to Ford. The rest of Japanese pay in the low millions, in actual cash, but the Japanese don't report all the perks as income, while over here EVERYTHING gets reported, as required by law, as income. Transplant companies do not give bonuses to their supplier employees or the perma-temps. The employees of the transplant companies have shown no interest in any union, not only rebuffing efforts by the UAW to organize them, but the Machinists union was rejected at the Mercedes Benz plant in Alabama. Len, it seems some of the hourly personnel have no idea what goes on in the real world. They have it made at Ford and think they are getting screwed! They should go work at a transplant, they would be begging to come back after 10 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp Shooter Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 UAW's King: Collective bargaining critical for America Bob King The United Auto Workers union recently reached agreements with both Ford Motor Co. and General Motors Co. that will create thousands of good jobs for American workers. Working with the UAW, these companies agreed to bring production jobs back from Mexico, China, Japan and other nations — welcome news for communities from Tennessee to Indiana, Missouri to Michigan. These agreements illustrate the critical and positive role that collective bargaining plays in strengthening our middle class. When the UAW bargaining teams sat down with management, their primary goal was jobs — to protect the jobs of our members; bring jobs back to the United States; and create new jobs. These agreements call for the creation of 6,400 more jobs at GM and 12,000 jobs at Ford. Since each auto manufacturing job creates or supports another 10 jobs in other businesses, the two agreements at Ford and GM are helping to create nearly 170,000 jobs for Americans. The new investments in American plants and the transfer of work from factories abroad to our own communities will lift local economies during these difficult times. In recent years, the right wing has demonized the process of collective bargaining. While targeting public sector workers, they have also attacked the right of private sector workers to organize and bargain. The right wing view is that bargaining is destructive to our economy or even un-American. Nothing could be further from the truth. Collective bargaining created the American middle class in the first place, and if we are to restore our middle class, it will be through expanding bargaining throughout our economy. Collective bargaining is the vehicle through which working people have a voice at work. Too often without countervailing input, executives make decisions based on short-term profit seeking, not on what's best for the company or our nation, in the long term. No one has a stronger self-interest in the success of the company than the workers. CEOs come and go, often with lucrative golden parachutes; managers pursue their own career advantages; stockholders buy or sell to make the most money; but the workers are here for the long-run and have the most at risk if the company fails. Through collective bargaining, workers have a check and balance on short-term corporate profit-seeking. This balance benefits not only workers but also our communities and even the company's shareholders. Collective bargaining works. The UAW has demonstrated that by giving workers a voice, we can create jobs, rebuild the American manufacturing sector and restore the American middle class. I agree with what you write. But, what I am seeing is the end of collective bargaining and the rise of rampant selfishness based on "what can I get" and "I don't care about my union brothers and sisters." It is like a disease. I hope I am wrong, but from all the selfish bastards on this site, I think I am right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 I agree with what you write. But, what I am seeing is the end of collective bargaining and the rise of rampant selfishness based on "what can I get" and "I don't care about my union brothers and sisters." It is like a disease. I hope I am wrong, but from all the selfish bastards on this site, I think I am right. You can clearly see the "haves" will not support the "have nots". Voting no will put us all in jeopardy No solidarity is evident in the plants with product, sad for the remaining locations that need this work to feed our families 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonunion slug Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 You can clearly see the "haves" will not support the "have nots". Voting no will put us all in jeopardy No solidarity is evident in the plants with product, sad for the remaining locations that need this work to feed our families Voting no also puts us salaried workers in jeapardy. When the Company ships out work if this vote goes down, it will be shipping out both hourly and salaried work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
br22cat Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Voting no also puts us salaried workers in jeapardy. When the Company ships out work if this vote goes down, it will be shipping out both hourly and salaried work. "jeopardy" IQ salary guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grim Reaper Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 Voting no also puts us salaried workers in jeapardy. When the Company ships out work if this vote goes down, it will be shipping out both hourly and salaried work. A strike would benefit the company, we would lose $1,000 per week and 10 weeks would be $10,000 The company has 100 day supply and more than likely the company will lock us out only to bring us back for less than what we strike for,,,,,,,,, Sorry but I am voting yes. Good agreement, with Billions of investments Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 A strike would benefit the company, we would lose $1,000 per week and 10 weeks would be $10,000 The company has 100 day supply and more than likely the company will lock us out only to bring us back for less than what we strike for,,,,,,,,, Sorry but I am voting yes. Good agreement, with Billions of investments If we strike, I am afraid we will be locked out replaced with scabs............ This vote will affect many families Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raws41900 Posted October 13, 2011 Share Posted October 13, 2011 If we strike, I am afraid we will be locked out replaced with scabs............ This vote will affect many families cant wait to see scabs run assembly lines and scab tradesmen come in and fix breakdowns they've never worked on.. that's not happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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