karlhenk Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 "I think it's maybe a stretch. But I don't find it implausible," said Bill Visnic, senior editor at the car research site Edmunds.com, in a telephone interview. "If you look at where things have been going segment by segment, except pickups, you could say that's been the trend." In 2008, new vehicles with four-cylinders made up 40 percent of the market, according to market researcher R.L. Polk & Co.; today, they are 53 percent of the new-vehicle market. And Ford anticipates that by 2020, 66 percent of all new vehicles will come equipped with four-cylinders. From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20130520/AUTO0102/305200334#ixzz2TqFMD8jF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 IIRC, M-B offers a not-so-mighty turbo-4 in the mighty S-class Übersled. Of course, the über is somewhat diminished, but that's why there's AMG, for folks with the need for speed. But the point remains: with direct injection and computerized engine management and stuff like VVT, today's turbo fours have acceptable NVH characteristics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 (edited) It's pretty obvious what will happen if companies continue to replace or withdraw six cylinder vehicles with four cylinder versions... LOL, off topic: GM's latest addition, the Chevrolet Cruze Diesel is $5,000 dearer than an Eco 1.4 Turbo. Edited May 20, 2013 by jpd80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted May 20, 2013 Share Posted May 20, 2013 It's going to be pretty hard to buy a V6 in all the volume cars, so it's not surprising at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theoldwizard Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Ford is hedging its bets the the all new "nano" V6 which should launch in early 2014CY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpd80 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 And all existing V6 and V8 engines will no doubt be receiving progressive upgrades, it would be dangerous for competitors to think current performance levels will stay the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevys Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ford is hedging its bets the the all new "nano" V6 which should launch in early 2014CY. Wizard, any word and what vehicles the nano 6 will find its way into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Wizard, any word and what vehicles the nano 6 will find its way into? Fords and/or Lincolns. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aneekr Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 IIRC, M-B offers a not-so-mighty turbo-4 in the mighty S-class Übersled. Of course, the über is somewhat diminished, but that's why there's AMG, for folks with the need for speed. But the point remains: with direct injection and computerized engine management and stuff like VVT, today's turbo fours have acceptable NVH characteristics. W221 S-Class is offered with one four cylinder engine option, and only in certain markets: the OM 651 2.1L turbo diesel. One variant with this engine - S250 CDI BlueEFFICIENCY - was declared the 2012 World Green Car of the Year. NVH characteristics of turbo four cylinder engines vary greatly. Some, like the aforementioned Mercedes-Benz OM 651, are very smooth and refined. Others such as Fiat's 1.4T MultiAir and Ford's 1.6T Ecoboost exhibit a coarseness that many car buyers may find objectionable. LOL, off topic:GM's latest addition, the Chevrolet Cruze Diesel is $5,000 dearer than an Eco 1.4 Turbo. Many reviewers have compared Cruze Eco to the turbo diesel variant, but the 2LT version with automatic transmission is a much more appropriate comparison in terms of feature set. 2013 Cruze 2LT 6AT is $23,135; 2014 Cruze Diesel retails for $25,695. Even if you account for the $1,500 rebate currently available on the former, the difference is closer to $4,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 the difference is closer to $4,000. Down the road in out-of-warranty reality, just wondering, how much will it cost to re & re the high pressure injector pump? The reason I ask is that Dean stated that the unit on a Jetta diesel was around $7,000 to replace, so is there a similar Cruze surprise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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