akirby Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 There does not need to be a special hybrid test. Ford Hybrids (Fusion specifically) did not have any issues meeting their advertised numbers from 2010-2012. Any issues with the test affect both hybrids and non-hybrids. The issues is more the vehicle. Not this bullshit again. The 2010-2012 hybrid can only go around 45 mph in electric mode - the 2013 can go 62 before the software update. That alone is a huge change. We have folks here who are getting more than 47 mpg with a hybrid (because they know how to drive a hybrid, it's summertime and the engine is fully broken in) and that anecdotal evidence is just as strong as your anecdotal evidence to the contrary. And you wonder why you get labeled a negatard...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1336 Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 My point exactly! Okay, I see your point about the need of having the A/C engaged constantly will have a (negative) effect on fuel economy in regards to my expectations with my new C-MAX Hybrid as well as heavy traffic and stopping at intersections. Mind you, I was`nt "bashing" or being overly critical (yet) about the MPG I`ve been able to obtain achieve to date. My mentioning the previous MPG of my "non-hybrid" Fiesta was just that it too had the A/C engaged constantly and was driven (aggressively) under the identical driving conditions and always averaged 33-35 city and 41-43 highway. Time will tell as well as future Softwear Updates to improve average fuel economy efficiencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xgman Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 I'll have to disagree with a lot of what is being said here. Feel free to hate me. No problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicKeyZ Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I see a lot of you quoting your vehicle's city vs highway mileage. How can you separate the two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billtkat Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I see a lot of you quoting your vehicle's city vs highway mileage. How can you separate the two? Not sure you can but that is the beauty of this car ( at least I thought) it listed at 45 /45/ 45 so it all should be the same. I am not digging into the EPA discussion however part of the reason I purchased mine was for the 45 stated. I did not understand the EPA testing at the time, still not sure but my sales person never stated anything less in the process either. In fact he did mention a benefit of this car was the MPG for this size car. Had to do with the newer type battery system I seem to remember. I average around 38 with mostly city driving , a bit more for hwy - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1336 Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I see a lot of you quoting your vehicle's city vs highway mileage. How can you separate the two? I can usually separate my Fuel Economy from City to Highway very easily regardless of what Vehicle I`m driving. A tank of gasoline that is driven in strictly stop and go City conditions versus a tank of gasoline that was used during strictly Highway driving. Miles driven with gallons of fuel consumed = MPG? If it is (mixed) driving conditions, that would be a presumable (average), I would think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 12, 2013 Share Posted September 12, 2013 I can usually separate my Fuel Economy from City to Highway very easily regardless of what Vehicle I`m driving. A tank of gasoline that is driven in strictly stop and go City conditions versus a tank of gasoline that was used during strictly Highway driving. Miles driven with gallons of fuel consumed = MPG? If it is (mixed) driving conditions, that would be a presumable (average), I would think? But most people don't drive an entire tank in just city or just highway conditions. You can always reset the current mpg on a per trip basis to get a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil1336 Posted September 13, 2013 Share Posted September 13, 2013 But most people don't drive an entire tank in just city or just highway conditions. You can always reset the current mpg on a per trip basis to get a good idea. Perhaps, I know that for myself, I often end up using an entire tank of fuel without going on the highway and simply doing errands and in city shopping and Dr appointments. Other times, I take a trip out of town taking 2 or 3 hours of strictly highway driving, I gas up before heading unto the Interstate and gas up as soon as I exit and top off to do a mileage check when I care to to compare Fuel Economy between City and Highway. I understand, if you don`t "top" off that way, you will (muddy) the results and get a combination average of both conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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