BB390fe Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Is anyone else starting to feel a bit jumpy about the way events are unfolding in the Mideast a present? I'm viewing the whole region as a powder keg...and I hope any involvement into Syria isn't a lit match. This might be a bit more serious a topic than who said what about who's skin... http://news.yahoo.com/on-syria--is-obama-treading-in-bush-s-iraq-footsteps--151321791.html http://news.yahoo.com/us-working-details-military-strike-syria-132137824.html And many more... I find these reports to be rather ominous...How ready are you for WWIII? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Is anyone else starting to feel a bit jumpy about the way events are unfolding in the Mideast a present? I'm viewing the whole region as a powder keg...and I hope any involvement into Syria isn't a lit match. This might be a bit more serious a topic than who said what about who's skin... http://news.yahoo.com/on-syria--is-obama-treading-in-bush-s-iraq-footsteps--151321791.html http://news.yahoo.com/us-working-details-military-strike-syria-132137824.html And many more... I find these reports to be rather ominous...How ready are you for WWIII? Good thing we have a Nobel Prize winner leading the country and the world to a peaceful resolution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langston Hughes Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Who ever thought there would be repercussions for that little invasion back in 2003? Total destabilization of the area? Unintended consequences are a pain in the ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Who ever thought there would be repercussions for that little invasion back in 2003? Total destabilization of the area? Unintended consequences are a pain in the ass. Syria's problems are caused by Afghanistan/Iraq? Sure, that area has been rock-solid stable for hundreds of years......not. It's not like wars only started there in 2003. But, unintended consequences are often remotely related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB390fe Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 Great... here comes the Russian fleet... and the left and right fiddle as Rome burns... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 To decide not to decide is to decide? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB390fe Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 Actually... yes it is... lol. It's going to get quite crowded in the Mediterranean - With Vlad the mad at the Russian helm this introduces even more instability in the region. I think these events may be a bit more urgent than what color Obama's underwear is or how well someone thinks he wears them... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Actually... yes it is...lol. It's going to get quite crowded in the Mediterranean - With Vlad the mad at the Russian helm this introduces even more instability in the region. I think these events may be a bit more urgent than what color Obama's underwear is or how well someone thinks he wears them... Or what late-night talk show he shows up on instead of a press conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB390fe Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 I try to keep my opinions on the president to myself... but I can't help feeling that this presidency will be examined historically... but not in the way certain people think it will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 A legacy....for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I'll take the Carter years anytime. I just go back in a time machine in my mind, and remember how simple life seemed to be even back then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I'll take the Carter years anytime. I just go back in a time machine in my mind, and remember how simple life seemed to be even back then! Could anyone ever imagined we would look back on Carter's era with yearning? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 (edited) Who ever thought there would be repercussions for that little invasion back in 2003? Total destabilization of the area? Unintended consequences are a pain in the ass. What an ignorant uneducated comment. Personally I don't think we should take any action at all in the matter. Edited August 29, 2013 by BlackHorse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_h Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I first heard that there was "slam dunk" (heard that term before) evidence of use of chem weapons by Assad, but then maybe not so slam dunk. I wonder if that could be Obama's wiggle room to back away from the 'red line' statement... - We have strong indication of use of chem weapons - However we have other indications that also raise questions - I know what I said about the red line, but I choose to continue to investigate rather than go in with guns blazing when the intel had some doubt, unlike the previous administration. That deflects the message into being unlike that cowboy Bush, and the pressure to strike fizzles while the investigation and working with the UN continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JScullin Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 That whole area has plenty of military in allied countries to keep that shit in check themselves. We seriously need to sit some of these out and let them deal with it on the front lines before we take the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal50 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Personally I don't think we should take any action at all in the matter. Neither did Biden. (When we had a different president that is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 The British have just decided that they will not take any military action against Syria. Note to Obama. This is what happens when you show outright disrespect for this nations allies. Now when you want them on your side they've told you to fuck off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Actually... yes it is...lol. It's going to get quite crowded in the Mediterranean - With Vlad the mad at the Russian helm this introduces even more instability in the region. I think these events may be a bit more urgent than what color Obama's underwear is or how well someone thinks he wears them... Here is an interesting opinion of Russia. http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/97797d0a-1095-11e3-b291-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2dP5qW3jf Russia does not have to do anything, it can just sit quiet. The situation is advantageous to Moscow. Our leaders will be only too happy to see the US start a new war it cannot win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 The British have just decided that they will not take any military action against Syria. Note to Obama. This is what happens when you show outright disrespect for this nations allies. Now when you want them on your side they've told you to fuck off. A good point I was not considering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 A good point I was not considering. I bet though that if it was done the right way here and Congress voted on it you would get the same result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 (edited) I bet though that if it was done the right way here and Congress voted on it you would get the same result. It may not matter if it is done "right" or not. I don't hear a broad outcry for Obama's stagecraft of alerting Syria a week in advance (so to speak) so that there will unlikely be any loss of human life. Just inconveniences. Geesh, if Syria DID feel threatened when Obama set the "Red Line" :fear:, there's no doubt he feels MUCH better now. :banana piano: Could THAT be considered giving comfort and aide to the enemy? Advance notice of intended targets? Hmmmmmmmm Edited August 30, 2013 by FiredMotorCompany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 A good point I was not considering. Obama's chickens have come home to roost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Please explain that to Obama. He's never heard that statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All-Or-Nothing Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Stay out of it. Even if we help the fighting will still continue when we pull out. Sometimes you need to let countries handle affairs themselves no matter how bad a leader they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 Stay out of it. Even if we help the fighting will still continue when we pull out. Sometimes you need to let countries handle affairs themselves no matter how bad a leader they have. First sentence: I am inclined to agree. Second sentence: Very likely. But how do we protect and maintain the "agreement" that war shall not include the use of chemical weapons, if we do nothing when it is proven to have been used. (Granted, there is debate about this. And I wouldn't put it past Al Qu'ida to sacrifice civilians to institute a "false flag" manipulation of international forces to attack the Syrian government troops.) Third sentence: Let me quote this gem: Sometimes you need to let countries handle affairs themselves no matter how bad a leader they have. Let's start in our own country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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