MTPwife Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 I've been hearing that MAP is going to be down the last week of October. Can anyone verify this & the possible reason? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10yrs_No_Seniority Posted October 4, 2013 Share Posted October 4, 2013 This was just confirmed by our committee guy. He said sales are down and for re-tooling. Also said there's a possiblity we may be down 1 week a month up till March. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Also hearing possible shift reduction the first of the year. Retooling in Oct??? Ahhhh yeahhh :reading: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decker Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 I heard, someone said that the MKS, Taurus annnnd the Explorer is going to MAP...... That means I get to follow my product? Right? Decker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10yrs_No_Seniority Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Yeah, I'm not buying into the re-tooling theory for this month. But we do know they are remodeling the Engine Line, and they want(ed) to do it over Christmas break. Nobody believes they can get it done in those 10-11 days, so now we're hearing we may get all the weeks in December and be down for that month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted October 6, 2013 Share Posted October 6, 2013 Yeah, I'm not buying into the re-tooling theory for this month. But we do know they are remodeling the Engine Line, and they want(ed) to do it over Christmas break. Nobody believes they can get it done in those 10-11 days, so now we're hearing we may get all the weeks in December and be down for that month. Now that is believable about December. But your right about the 10yrs and no Seniority, if you weren't hired in the 80's or earlier then your humpin the line. Good luck ! No Decker we heard that there all going to Oakville after there retooling, so good luck following that ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfirst1 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 down because poor quality and sales. company trying to move c max out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Are you guys down or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinto'77 Posted October 9, 2013 Share Posted October 9, 2013 Down week Oct 28th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The past couple of days MAP has been short shifting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballfan Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Funny, Ford management has been crying about not having enough capacity, yet they are laying off. Perhaps the Escape and/or the MKC should be added to MAP's mix since the plant is capable of building so many vehichles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
focusfirst1 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 the problem is that MAP cant build anything right..Shut down a shift i'm ready for some O.T. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 the problem is that MAP cant build anything right..Shut down a shift i'm ready for some O.T. Greed!!!! You should never wish for people to be laid off! Think about somebody that has kids to feed and they get laid off, it's sad for anyone to lose there job! Your a real union brother! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thezip Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Greed!!!! You should never wish for people to be laid off! Think about somebody that has kids to feed and they get laid off, it's sad for anyone to lose there job! Your a real union brother! Well said littlecountry! the problem is that MAP cant build anything right..Shut down a shift i'm ready for some O.T. Its the people who dont show up,same people same days.Have people with a year who long form constantly so its always a double up.thats where the quality issues are,but that being said no way do I want to go back to 2 crews!! I love my 3 days off!!! Take that whole 5 10s every other saturday crap,wad it up nice and tight and......do whatever you want with it,just keep it away from me!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtprubberrat Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Well said littlecountry! Its the people who dont show up,same people same days.Have people with a year who long form constantly so its always a double up.thats where the quality issues are,but that being said no way do I want to go back to 2 crews!! I love my 3 days off!!! Take that whole 5 10s every other saturday crap,wad it up nice and tight and......do whatever you want with it,just keep it away from me!!!! It's the LTS and @ 2nd tier But that's what they get for having a 2 tiered system who wants to kill themselves for $14 can't buy a new car or house for that.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It's the LTS and @ 2nd tier But that's what they get for having a 2 tiered system who wants to kill themselves for $14 can't buy a new car or house for that.! The 2nd Tier pay tops out at $19 plus, all this bullshit talk about who wants to work for the 2nd Tier wage, let it go, if your a 2nd Tier employee and you don't like working for the hourly rate that you were told you would be making when you got hired on then quit and go find another job that will pay you $19 plus an hour.... Ford is not the only company that pays its workers different wages, it's a common practice in the workplace now. You got nobody to blame but yourself if your unhappy with your hourly rate and you continue to remain employed by Ford,cause you can quit at any time. It's not like you did not know there was a 2 Tier system in place before you got hired, let it go and be thankful you have a job! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtprubberrat Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 (edited) The 2nd Tier pay tops out at $19 plus, all this bullshit talk about who wants to work for the 2nd Tier wage, let it go, if your a 2nd Tier employee and you don't like working for the hourly rate that you were told you would be making when you got hired on then quit and go find another job that will pay you $19 plus an hour.... Ford is not the only company that pays its workers different wages, it's a common practice in the workplace now. You got nobody to blame but yourself if your unhappy with your hourly rate and you continue to remain employed by Ford,cause you can quit at any time. It's not like you did not know there was a 2 Tier system in place before you got hired, let it go and be thankful you have a job! If I had to work there for $19 an hour I probly would quit and I'm sure next contract they will get a raise and we won't So enjoy your current wage until you retire if you can.. while everything else goes up.! Edited October 16, 2013 by mtprubberrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10yrs_No_Seniority Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I had been working 5 yrs by '07 and 9 yrs by '11, respectively, when they started implementing the 2 tier system. I got fucked, and I doubt I'll ever "get over it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtprubberrat Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I had been working 5 yrs by '07 and 9 yrs by '11, respectively, when they started implementing the 2 tier system. I got fucked, and I doubt I'll ever "get over it". I don't blame you I got fucked 3 times back in the 90's with that part time 89 day then lay you off shit then got fucked when MTP supposedly closed and the union led all the high seniority to body to get get fucked and never return when they said you could..People don't read these contracts and sign anything for a few dollars and say "just be happy you have a Job" ok yes I'm happy I have a job but when your union fucks you all the time it gets kinda old.! We are going to be retirees soon and people need to think about that more than the now.! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 If I had to work there for $19 an hour I probly would quit and I'm sure next contract they will get a raise and we won't So enjoy your current wage until you retire if you can.. while everything else goes up.! I don't expect a raise so i will enjoy my current wage, I see the big picture and you can't change it, times have changed, stop stressing over the 2 tier thing just go to work and enjoy life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I had been working 5 yrs by '07 and 9 yrs by '11, respectively, when they started implementing the 2 tier system. I got fucked, and I doubt I'll ever "get over it". Why did you accept a job with Ford as a 2nd Tier employee if you feel you were screwed before you ever got hired? I mean if the wages are that bad and you got screwed over and you hold a grudge, why work for a company that screwed you over and pays you an awful wage? Just curious why you accepted the job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
10yrs_No_Seniority Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 I have a family and bills to pay. I know where you're coming from; this is America and I can do whatever yada-yada-yada, but the fact of the matter is I had already worked for many years under one premise, before they started changing the rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTP'er Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 Well I guess if I drank the Koolaid I could see the big picture...........WOW :poke: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtprubberrat Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 (edited) Well I guess if I drank the Koolaid I could see the big picture...........WOW :poke: Bahlieve it..! lot's of ppl waiting in line for the kool-aid that's gonna be handed out next cotract..I'm sure they are going to bring their wage up and make it sound like a great triumph for the union and of course there will be a bonus and no raise for us... another cup of kool-aid please.! Edited October 19, 2013 by mtprubberrat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlecountry Posted October 19, 2013 Share Posted October 19, 2013 $10,000 signing bonus if you vote Yes without looking at the highlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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