Black Label Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, akirby said: I only have to remove the shield under the oil pan. My oil filter has a built in drip tray that directs the oil to the pan without moving anything. I thought the protective shield u dear the oil pan was torx screws like all my other but I might be wrong. I also have the plastic plug so oil changes are a snap. Gotcha. Lots of complaints online, naturally, about that plastic plug. Probably like everything else in that once you figure out how to use it, it's fine. And, that answers what I was about to ask you if you could get your impact wrench up in there to loosen and tighten the oil drain plug but you don't have to! I'm close to pulling the trigger in the links you sent last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Black Label said: Gotcha. Lots of complaints online, naturally, about that plastic plug. Probably like everything else in that once you figure out how to use it, it's fine. And, that answers what I was about to ask you if you could get your impact wrench up in there to loosen and tighten the oil drain plug but you don't have to! I'm close to pulling the trigger in the links you sent last night. I don’t recall plug complaints just leaking oil pans which thankfully mine doesn’t do. Because the plug is long I can remove it and pull it out part way preventing the oil from gushing out without getting it on my hands. Much cleaner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 1 minute ago, akirby said: I don’t recall plug complaints just leaking oil pans which thankfully mine doesn’t do. Because the plug is long I can remove it and pull it out part way preventing the oil from gushing out without getting it on my hands. Much cleaner. Some guys preemptively bought new plastic plugs because they were sure they would break the OEM plug trying to get it out. Also, LOTS of complaints that the side drain vs aft drain created a huge mess with oil spewing out everywhere. Pretty much sums up many of their comments. They also said they took off the oil fill cap PRIOR to draining. Uh, I waited until after I got the bolt off to remove my fill cap for venting. Thus, I had zero mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, Black Label said: Some guys preemptively bought new plastic plugs because they were sure they would break the OEM plug trying to get it out. Also, LOTS of complaints that the side drain vs aft drain created a huge mess with oil spewing out everywhere. Pretty much sums up many of their comments. They also said they took off the oil fill cap PRIOR to draining. Uh, I waited until after I got the bolt off to remove my fill cap for venting. Thus, I had zero mess. But all you have to do is pull it out halfway and it will start to drain slowly into the pan even with the fill cap off. It's so easy. Wait a couple of minutes then pull it out all the way. I thought about buying a spare as a backup but honestly I don't see that it's necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, akirby said: But all you have to do is pull it out halfway and it will start to drain slowly into the pan even with the fill cap off. It's so easy. Wait a couple of minutes then pull it out all the way. I thought about buying a spare as a backup but honestly I don't see that it's necessary. Hey, I hear ya, but you know how people are! So many were pissed that Ford would go to that plastic plug. It didn't look difficult to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 I just checked and it is the 8mm bolts on the shield. I just forgot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 24 minutes ago, akirby said: I just checked and it is the 8mm bolts on the shield. I just forgot. You and most people around here have probably forgotten more about cars and trucks than I have ever known lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T hawker Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 On 4/22/2020 at 9:21 AM, Black Label said: Some guys preemptively bought new plastic plugs because they were sure they would break the OEM plug trying to get it out. Also, LOTS of complaints that the side drain vs aft drain created a huge mess with oil spewing out everywhere. Pretty much sums up many of their comments. They also said they took off the oil fill cap PRIOR to draining. Uh, I waited until after I got the bolt off to remove my fill cap for venting. Thus, I had zero mess. I'm one of those guys that purchased a spare plug for the 2.7L Nautilus, also purchased spare o-rings and filter housing. I "feel" better having these on hand just in case. Appreciate info on draining procedure, only 1500 miles on car so not ready to change oil yet. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, T hawker said: I'm one of those guys that purchased a spare plug for the 2.7L Nautilus, also purchased spare o-rings and filter housing. I "feel" better having these on hand just in case. Appreciate info on draining procedure, only 1500 miles on car so not ready to change oil yet. I thought they switched back to metal bolts on all the newer engines. Guess not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Black Label said: I thought they switched back to metal bolts on all the newer engines. Guess not. F150/Nav/Expy switched in 2019 I think. Not sure about Nautilus/Edge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 3 minutes ago, akirby said: F150/Nav/Expy switched in 2019 I think. Not sure about Nautilus/Edge. Me neither, apparently haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcparker2 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 Just some data my mar 2018 build nav has metal drain plug since new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, bcparker2 said: Just some data my mar 2018 build nav has metal drain plug since new. Pics or it ain't true. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcparker2 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Black Label said: Pics or it ain't true. ? I just changed it a week ago remind me in 5k miles. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 2 hours ago, bcparker2 said: I just changed it a week ago remind me in 5k miles. Gonna hold you to that lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston Sparty Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Black Label said: Pics or it ain't true. ? Fo check my post with pictures asking about drain plug. It is 2018 Navi. I think unless you have very early build, they changed that to metal drain plug on most 18 models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 Just now, Houston Sparty said: Fo check my post with pictures asking about drain plug. It is 2018 Navi. I think unless you have very early build, they changed that to metal drain plug on most 18 models. Oh I know, I was just joking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston Sparty Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Black Label said: Oh I know, I was just joking. My bad. Lol. Great vehicle other than side mirror going crazy from time to time. That’s another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 22 minutes ago, Houston Sparty said: My bad. Lol. Great vehicle other than side mirror going crazy from time to time. That’s another thread. Uh oh.....lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCP Posted April 25, 2020 Author Share Posted April 25, 2020 While it is another thread . . . I achieved a first that I want to share. Yesterday I had both mirrors dancing at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted April 25, 2020 Share Posted April 25, 2020 3 hours ago, DCP said: While it is another thread . . . I achieved a first that I want to share. Yesterday I had both mirrors dancing at the same time. Go on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normannavigator Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Hello, I am ready to do an oil change on my 18 navigator. I had a picture from the front. Can you tell me know if I need to remove both undercover (1, 2) to get to drain plug and oil filter? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 I only had to remove the #2 in your picture. 8mm bolts I believe. Oil filter is easily accessible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
normannavigator Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thank you. To reach 2, do you have to jack up the car? from front or side. Also from which side do you reach the drain plug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Label Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 7 minutes ago, normannavigator said: Thank you. To reach 2, do you have to jack up the car? from front or side. Also from which side do you reach the drain plug? I did jack up the front but some people say they haven't. Maybe I'm becoming more claustrophobic in my early 50s, but that would seem like a tight fit. The oil plug is on the passenger side of the oil pan. Some people changing the oil on F-150s with the same engine complained about the oil spewing and making a mess. They also all opened the oil fill cap PRIOR to draining. I waited to open that until after the oil was draining and had no mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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