Nbmonte Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 I ordered a 7.3l f250 lariat tremor 11/26 and the order still hasn’t been picked up by Ford. My dealer claims Ford is completely focused on the US market and isn’t allocating many builds to the Canadian market right now. Does this seem plausible, or just dealer speak? I ordered with the largest dealer in my area, so switching dealers likely won’t help. thanks for any insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Hi Nbmonte I was told exactly the samething by my dealer in Quebec so I am kind of curious if someone have a answer for us. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottK1 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Perhaps if Canada opened the border? I'm in Seattle-area. No reason to stop me from visiting Canada any more than stopping Canadians from coming here, except they are. I think it makes no difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 that is exactly what the dealer told us I know one thing i thinks it is about 5 Super Duty with a 8 foot bed acros the Quebec Region and they are all sold Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblazeiko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Depending on parts specific to your order.... They are lying to you. I ordered a 21 F350 Platinum Tremor 6.7 on January 7th. I received a VIN number on January 26th It was built on Feb 3rd It was shipped Feb 5th I am in Saskatchewan and I did NOT order from a large dealer. Maybe they didn't have an allocation or maybe they ordered it as a low priority code. You should be able to ask those questions and wonder why trucks are flowing to Canada easily and maybe they didn't disclose that they just didn't have an allocation for a build and didn't want to pass your deal on to someone else. Edited February 13, 2021 by rblazeiko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblazeiko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 After re-reading your post, I called back in December a very large dealer group out of Alberta. They told me that they couldn't order any more for the 21 year and said orders were closed. When I phoned around, this wasn't the case. After learning about dealer allocation I found out that when this slump in sales and Covid hit, some dealers with a lot of capital were able to order a lot of units in as they saw a slump in production and a demand. I wonder if they used up allocations as the dealer doesn't have infinite ability to order vehicles. Otherwise the big dealers would just order them all and hose the smaller dealers. So, what I have seen is that a lot of huge dealers have used all their allocations but don't tell you. If they do that, blame Ford, or the market, or the border then the order will still roll over until they have an allocation or until the 22MY depending what happens first. I know that there were some delays and certain models or parts having struggles but I would ask them what is going on. Like my post above, a VIN should be generated if ford has it in the system. usually within a week of the order. If it is not scheduled then in the www.alumizilla.com/ site, it will just say processing. That is the way us canadians can tell if they are B.S.ing you. I really wish you luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 40 minutes ago, rblazeiko said: After re-reading your post, I called back in December a very large dealer group out of Alberta. They told me that they couldn't order any more for the 21 year and said orders were closed. When I phoned around, this wasn't the case. After learning about dealer allocation I found out that when this slump in sales and Covid hit, some dealers with a lot of capital were able to order a lot of units in as they saw a slump in production and a demand. I wonder if they used up allocations as the dealer doesn't have infinite ability to order vehicles. Otherwise the big dealers would just order them all and hose the smaller dealers. So, what I have seen is that a lot of huge dealers have used all their allocations but don't tell you. If they do that, blame Ford, or the market, or the border then the order will still roll over until they have an allocation or until the 22MY depending what happens first. I know that there were some delays and certain models or parts having struggles but I would ask them what is going on. Like my post above, a VIN should be generated if ford has it in the system. usually within a week of the order. If it is not scheduled then in the www.alumizilla.com/ site, it will just say processing. That is the way us canadians can tell if they are B.S.ing you. I really wish you luck. You're assuming a lot about the ordering, allocation, scheduling and VIN number generation that isn't factual. Edited February 13, 2021 by ice-capades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblazeiko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, ice-capades said: You're assuming a lot about the ordering, allocation, scheduling and VIN number generation that isn't factual. Thats fair. I do not know for sure and welcome any corrections. This was just things that I have picked up from here and there. I hope that anyone that reads this would would see that it is an uneducated opinion. It really doesn't make sense to blame Ford for prioritizing US orders when the Canadian market is already quite small compared to the whole US market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice-capades Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, rblazeiko said: Thats fair. I do not know for sure and welcome any corrections. This was just things that I have picked up from here and there. I hope that anyone that reads this would would see that it is an uneducated opinion. It really doesn't make sense to blame Ford for prioritizing US orders when the Canadian market is already quite small compared to the whole US market. That's okay. You might want to spend a few minutes reviewing the information regarding order submission, priority codes, allocation, etc. https://blueovalforums.com/forums/index.php?/topic/63667-ford-vehicle-ordering-scheduling-process/ I wouldn't assume that Ford is discounting Canadian orders because of the market size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 You are right Ice-capades that is exactly what my dealer told me and this would be why they holding on canadian order. I have my dealer number order number and the priority code is 10 this is one of the largest dealer in quebec he has 27 Superduty on order and almost 40 150 truck on order with customer waiting for them . Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblazeiko Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 1 hour ago, ice-capades said: I wouldn't assume that Ford is discounting Canadian orders because of the market size. Sorry. the way it came off was wrong. I meant that there would be no reason for ford to do that. There will be minimal orders compared to the the US so it really wouldn't help them to discount Canadian orders. I think he may have just answered his own situation though. Going to such a large dealer with so many vehicles on order creates a pretty big wait list for then. 27 Super Duties is a big order list. That was probably why an order from a smaller dealer may show up a bit faster. BTW. Thank you for all you do on here. I have gained a lot of knowledge without having to ask because there is so much here. Much appreciated! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 I was told truck are selling cheaper in Canada than the US and that would be the reason they are pushing US market apparently they are some dealer in the US with a lot of SuperDuty on the lot. I am not saying it is fair but at the end of the day money talk so I am pretty sure they are making more money with the same truck in the US so right now US market is prioritise . I canada it is berely nothing on the lot. My dealer told me that is regional manager promise him that most of is order would be pick up in march but I am still nervous about that statement. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbmonte Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) I keep getting told the same thing, orders will be picked up in March. Dealer claims they have more allocations than orders, what else can I do but accept what they say. I think the dealer messed up, but I can’t prove it, and every other dealer I’ve talked to says they’re not sure they can get any trucks. For whatever reason trucks aren’t making it into Canada. I’m stuck waiting for now, I’ve thought about getting another dodge, but I really like the Ford product. It sucks Ford doesn’t seem to want to sell more trucks in Canada. Edited February 15, 2021 by Nbmonte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I am exactly in the same spot as you the only thing is My Ram Diesel is sold so the wait is agonising to me and my buyer . Dealer told me my order was gonna be pick up in march too garanty he say. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 22, 2021 Share Posted February 22, 2021 NBMonte Did you ears anynews my dealer not calling so I assume you are in the same spot as me. If that truck don t show up before april I will go get another Ram Diesel off the lot. unreal the time compare to US order. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbmonte Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 I talked to my salesman two weeks ago, told him I needed a truck this spring, and if I didn’t hear anything by the end of February I’d have to cancel and buy elsewhere off the lot. He called me today with a vin#, says it’s scheduled for early April. still way slower than most of the orders I’m seeing in the US. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 lucky you from what I got this week not schedule to be build yet and I am seriously thinking going back with a Ram truck off the lot . If Ford is doing the same thing with all canadian order they will loose a lot of bussiness peaple starting to really like the Ram Truck. And with the way things are going it does not inspire confidence buying a Ford Right now Let say something broke on the truck are they gonna do the same thing with spare parts . Waranty work etc. Not the best way to keep a relationship with customer I can tell you that. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nbmonte Posted February 25, 2021 Author Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) I think it’s a shitty way to do things, and I’m not much farther ahead, all it does is keep me waiting. It bugs me they’re sending trucks to sit on dealer lots in the US while our orders wait and wait. I have a vin, but theres so much uncertainty with parts availability this spring, there’s no guarantee. I really like the ford trucks right now, part of it is simply wanting a change. After 6 years with a dodge, I just want something different. Hopefully it’s the right decision. Edited February 25, 2021 by Nbmonte Thought of something else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pig9r Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 (edited) There’s not a lot sitting at dealerships in the US either. Of the 10 closest dealers near me, only one has more than five Super Duties on the lot. The average is two to three and they are not there very long. My November 12, 2020 order should be delivered any day now. My dealer had allocation and my order was picked up immediately. Edited February 25, 2021 by pig9r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNDERGROUNDF250 Posted February 25, 2021 Share Posted February 25, 2021 That's Great! My November 17th order isn't scheduled to be built until next week. I don't expect to see my new ride until April. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblazeiko Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 I'm trying to tell you guts that this isn't for holding back on Canadian orders. This is something more localized at your dealer. Something on how they ordered it, or allocated it, or a specific part or color at factory that is an issue. I ordered my 2021 F350 Platinum Tremor. Marsala interior. Iconic Silver. Spray in Bed Liner. Everything except sunroof. I ordered it January 7th in Saskatchewan. VIN on January 26. Built Feb 3. Shipped Feb 5. Right now it is here in Saskatchewan at a central dock waiting to be taken to the dealer. At the most, itll be a week before I see it. It may be the dealership, the priority code, the smaller volume of the dealer but as for Canadian Orders, it doesn't matter, trucks are still flowing up here. It is just my opinion but I feel that the dealers are just trying to pass the buck so as to not look like the bad guy here to try keep the orders. Little do they know that people may start looking elsewhere to other brands if being shuffled off enough. Again, I am no expert but I can tell you that within 2 months, I as a Canadian will have a truck in my driveway. I really feel bad for you having to wait like this with so much uncertainty. I would have jumped dealers or jumped brands by now as well. I can not blame you. Maybe I got lucky but something just does not match up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 lucky you from what I got this week not schedule to be build yet and I am seriously thinking going back with a Ram truck off the lot . If Ford is doing the same thing with all canadian order they will loose a lot of bussiness peaple starting to really like the Ram Truck. And with the way things are going it does not inspire confidence buying a Ford Right now Let say something broke on the truck are they gonna do the same thing with spare parts . Waranty work etc. Not the best way to keep a relationship with customer I can tell you that. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 also as far as my dealer goes My priority code is 10 he as plenty of allocation and he as about 25 superduty on order and sold .. I thing Ford decide to fill bigger market first and hope for the best in smaller Market I can see that out Ouester Canada dealer yard have truck but I can tell you in Quebec and Ontario I don t even think it is more than 10 8 foot bed truck available and this including XL truck. So I don t believe my dealer is filling me up with bullshit. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rblazeiko Posted February 26, 2021 Share Posted February 26, 2021 Yeah out here you can't find a truck here either. Pretty slim everywhere. I just about looked at Sierras myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzman Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Finally got a VIN and a possible build date of may 3 incredible as I look up the VIN today my estimated delivery date was push from june 6 to June 13 this is unacceptable for me, 6 month to get a truck and not even sure yet when is gonna be here Sold my Ram, buyer picking it up this week after waiting 4 month dealer leasing me a F-150 at 800$ a month I am really not a happy camper for my first experience with Ford Seing Lariat truck deliver sometime at 8-10 weeks in the US it is reenforcing the theories that Ford is priorising US Market over the Canadian market just not able to prouve it. Nbmonte did you get your truck yet. Buzzman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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