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I'll agree with you regarding the Hybrid with Pro Power Onboard but won't be surprised if it's not available for at least a year or couple of years yet. The Hybrid with Pro Power Onboard has already established itself on the F-150's and would be a logical step for the Super Duty models. As for any BEV version, I think that's still years down the road.

It's just PR language. Most likely, with the current BEV market and Ford's constant changes in vehicle plans, it'll be years before the market sees electrification of the Super Duty lines.

This morning's updated gas prices in Hamden, CT (New Haven)  $3.09 Regular (Cash) @ Gulf (No Change)  $3.15 Regular (Cash) @ Citgo (Reduced to $3.15 from $3.19 - Midgrade & Premium prices also reduced)

Regular scheduling is done on Thursday mornings usually. Some scheduling may happen Thursday afternoons.

Haven't we heard that before?

All good points. Time will tell.

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this point. I understand what you're saying and can appreciate the points you've made, but I think that you're giving Ford too much credit. At least for now I think that so far, the "Skunkworks" project that Ford keeps teasing is nothing but a "Smoke & Mirrors" campaign to convince people, including Wall Street, that Ford has this breakthrough project that will make a major difference. I'll reserve judgement until we see something that actually gives this "Skunkworks" project credibility other than being another "Ford has a better idea" campaign.

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Unscheduled/Clean status just means that the order meets the order guide requirements. Commodity restraints change on a constant basis and are a different issue with that information available to Dealers per reports issued on a weekly and/or daily basis.

With the technology available today... 3-5 years to develop a new vehicle is just an excuse.

I'll believe Ford's "affordable" EVs are such when we see them... depending on what's defined as "affordable" when they finally come to market! A lot of talk but delay after delay. As for Ford's "Skunkworks"... it's been 2 years now and there's no sign of any impact. Sure, it takes time to implement major changes, but there's no sign of anything changing yet. I hope for Ford's sake that the project has a positive impact, but Ford's history isn't encouraging in such regards.

VIN numbers are assigned at the same time the order is scheduled. As such, the VIN number was assigned on 11/18/2024 if that was the date the order was scheduled.

This morning's updated gas prices in Hamden, CT (New Haven)  $3.09 Regular (Cash) @ Gulf (No Change)  $3.25 Regular (Cash) @ Citgo (Increased back to $3.25)

If the DIO options were included on the original order, those parts would ship separately and often arrive at the dealership before the vehicle. With the timeline information you provided, I'd guess that the DIO options were not included on the original order submitted via WBDO as required by Ford.

Dealer installed options included in the original order, such as the Illuminated Door Entry Keypad, must be ordered through the WBDO (Web Based Dealer Ordering) System. Per the order guide, DIO items are shipped separately from the vehicle. The Dealer should not have to order DIO options again if they were included with the original order.

This morning's updated gas prices in Hamden, CT (New Haven)  $3.09 Regular (Cash) @ Gulf (No Change)  $3.19 Regular (Cash) @ Citgo (Reduced from $3.25)

Regular cab F-Series are very low volume at the retail level with most going to fleets.

Ford is a complete mess regarding product planning, implementation, etc. It's probably the worst I've seen in the past 50 years. Constant changes with vehicle plans pushed back on a continuous basis. New facilities being built, then reduced in scale as product plans are either delayed or cancelled. In the process, Billions of dollars invested in new BEV intended facilities result in delay after delay per the overall decline in BEV vehicle demand. And yet, the Flat Rock plant has been underutilized for years due to the plant's physical limitations. Plant upgrades have been announced numerous times and then cancelled. Recent discussions have been about a potential Mustang sedan which could have been produced years ago. Or the plant could be producing a different car-based model to utilize the plant production capacity.

With all the conversations about vehicle aerodynamics, etc. here's an early example!

That's a lot of inventory in Expedition and Navigator stock. Explorer/Aviator and Expedition/Navigator customers are two different customers, and few Explorer/Aviator customers move to the full-size models.

It's a real Ford program with a total of $22,500 in incentives for up to 15 2024 F-150 Lightnings acquired through Ford Replenishment Centers. https://fordauthority.com/2024/10/2024-ford-f-150-lightning-program-will-pay-dealers-to-use-replenishment-centers/

The 2024 Lincoln Navigator Order Guide and the 2025 Expedition Order Guide are now available for download in the Dealer Order Guides section.

The 2025 Expedition Order Guide is now available for download in the Dealer Order Guides section. Thanks @bearman54 The 2025 Lincoln Navigator Order Guide is now available for download in the Dealer Order Guides section. Thanks @bearman54

2025 Expedition Order Guide View File 2025 Expedition Order Guide Submitter ice-capades Submitted 11/02/2024 Category Expedition