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I agree with you, but just to play devil's advocate, how much coal is needed to extract, refine, and transport the gasohol, incl that used for the biomass component, to make 14 gallons of unleaded regular for the Prius?

The Prius isn't even Toyota's best-selling hybrid in the US, the Rav 4 Hybrid is.

And that’s what I’ve been saying to Rick73, Toyota hybrid buyers went main stream a few years back also surprise that a Corolla hybrid has a commercial version, Yaris morphed into a crossover, that was a smart move.

Perhaps more applicable to the 22 vice 23 new order thread?

This is an interesting discussion on several levels. One of them is that moving forward at the same time with electrification of personal transportation and eliminating the concept of baseload power as the backbone of electricity generation will turn traditional electric power economics on its head. With baseload power underpinning the electrical system you want to incentivize, with lower rates and other incentives, shifting electricity use to evening and nighttime because that is when you will have the most slack in power generation as demand drops overnight. But with a power generating system of (nearly all) renewable energy, you have very little baseload power in the system, as when night falls solar power generation stops and wind power typically dies down some as well. You then depend to a large degree on battery or kinetic systems (like water towers) to store excess daytime power generation and have it available for the night when the sun's not out and wind often dies down. That electricity is *a lot* more expensive than daytime electricity and it will undoubtedly start to be priced as such. A recent Stanford University study published in the journal Nature Energy goes into more detail on this fast approaching change in electricity economics in places like California. In other words, the concept of saving money with an EV by charging it overnight with (relatively) cheap electricity goes away. https://news.stanford.edu/press-releases/2022/09/22/charging-cars-honight-not-way-go/

Congrats to Joey Lagano and Team Penske on their 2022 NASCAR Cup championship!

Ford will be asking for a lot of labor trouble if they start closing legacy plants and moving production to a new plant in a right-to-work state that is not guaranteed to recognize the UAW. As for EVs I'm still a skeptic. Will they get a solid 25-30 percent of the market within the next 10 years? Sure. But I don't think we will see 100 EV adoption for several decades if ever. I think BOC will end up something like the Saturn plant in nearby Spring Hill. A lot of expectations but the end result will be something less than promised.