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There are different types of EV buyers. There's the greenies that apparently you're thinking of, and there's techies. A lot of Tesla buyers are techies. I would bet many would consider a Mach-E.

Just build a 4 dr Mustang Torino or better, just Torino, and stop.

On the other hand, Peter Delorenzo has sour grapes: http://www.autoextremist.com/ He's an ex-GM executive, and of course the Chevrolet Bolt is bland and boring. He is also a hydrogen/fuel cell advocate, and hydrogen lost.

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/18/ford-mustang-brand-family-of-vehicles/ Back to those "derivatives"...

Where did I say that I don't care?? You've pulled that from somewhere, but not from anything that I've posted. If I didn't care, I wouldn't be here. Right now, I'm leaning towards the used Ford, something I can drive for 4-5 years until hopefully EV prices come down and real fast charging becomes more of an ubiquitous thing. On my two TVs, I have the NFL on one and the race on the other. I will be cheering for Harvick and against the three tucking Foyota drivers.

That will likely be me soon. If I buy a Ford, it will a used one. Otherwise, it looks like a Volkswagen or (less likely) Mazda will be in my garage. There's a tiny chance I could buy an Escape. The other Japanese and Korean compacts are either boring, took a thrashing with the ugly stick, or both.

It also is hypocritical for someone to post that, and then turn around and do the same. I'm with T-dubz, I drive a bit on the fast side and want a car with good handling. And my Focus hatchback is every bit as flexible as any CUV.

The contract said Mustang and "derivatives". Would a Mustang Torino (or Mach 4) sedan be a derivative?? I would think that the Thunderbird name would be used on a big EV sedan, to go alongside a next generation Continental. Ford needs cars; Gen Xers and millennials are buying CUVs, but Gen Z is apparently interested in sedans, because, well, Gen Xers and millennials...

Agreed. And Ford aimed for the (soon to be) old Supercharger charging rates. 47 miles in 10 minutes is 3× slower than the Supercharger V3 (75 miles/5 min meaning 150 miles/10 min).

I've read the same story, but in mine the airport was Frankfurt.

There's no reason to own a manual these days, unless you're one of those few devotees. Automatics get better fuel economy. And manumatics with paddle shifters allow you to shift gears when you want to, and not shift when it's mostly a chore.(such as stop and go rush hour traffic)

I thought that this thread might be an appropriate one for this article: https://www.autoblog.com/2019/11/07/electric-vehicles-outsell-manual-transmissions-united-states/

The unanswered question for me is "Mustang and derivatives." What are "derivatives"? Are they just talking about Mustang trim levels like GT350. GT500, Mach 1, etc, or something else, like a 4 door Mustang/Torino/whatever and/or Zephyr/Mark IX?

Or, in other words, take a cue from their own past with 60s/70s/80s Ford station wagons. When I was a kid, we had 1970 and '72 Mercury wagons that had such rear doors/tailgates.

MOPAR will tremendously benefit from this. They can piggyback on Peugeot and Opel for platforms and maybe whole CUVs and cars. PSA/Opel is way better than Fiat...but then who's not.