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I *think* that's the single motor version that is being offered first. The dual motor version comes later (I think).

What is the current thinking about what these 2 vehicles will be? Sort of ID 4 sister and a 'sport fastback' version of same?

Wouldn't it almost have to be MEQ? Doesn't Ford have a contractual obligation to use x amount from VW?

Ford's explanation of the problem: Can Ford correct this issue without a loss of fast charging capability? No idea. It pisses me off that Ford's development process did not catch something like this before it ever made it out the door. Fast charging in particular is a selling point to many EV drivers, particularly those that don't have a level 2 charger at home and charge at public fast charging sites. It's just such a basic capability that it's inexcusable for this problem to have made it to the public.

Here's the Honda companion model for comparison:

x2 Maybe we won't get a good look at the inside until they introduce the refresh - maybe July?

This is not a good look for what is arguably one of Ford's headline products.

Because in their wisdom they decided to this Electra:

Poor analogy. A better analogy would having to find the McDonald's he likes. No one does that because they're all essentially the same. They all sell the same products for the same price. Now we all have had a bad experience at a given McD's, but by and large the stores are held to the same standards and McDonald's is able to police its franchises for adhering to their 'formula'. Using this analogy (and it's your analogy), why should the average consumer need to search through several Ford dealers? BS. I understand your frustration because you obviously hold yourself to a high standard and deliver for your customers, but you need to listen to what most posters are telling you here: you are truly an exception, not the rule. Probably every one of us can tell stories about dealership experiences that are similar to the negative ones posted here. I truly believe there are dealers that set high standards and strive to be the best. There are too many dealers that don't, and the franchise model (along with local politicians) protect them far too much.

From the Detroit Free Press: Using the handy dandy calculation provided earlier in the thread but updated for Ford's official figure: Quick math- 46,161 sold so far in 2022 35,023 sold in 2021 81,184 total Figure about 50% (I think that might be on the high side) are V6s 40,592 Documents filed by Ford with NHTSA say 25,538 Broncos may have this problem works out to about a 62.9% (0.62913) failure rate I don't believe for a minute that the failure rate is that high - Ford had to provide the total number of engines potentially involved - but those here who have dismissed this situation because of the anecdotal number of reports on a Bronco forum are maybe jumping the gun a bit as well.

Read this thread:

And EV Bronco won't look like IC version. Right? I don't think so...

Sorry but not in the marketplace. The Edge could be found routinely with discounts from $4-10k depending on the model. There's a reason it's dead man walking, otherwise why wouldn't Ford continue it?

The only additional shift mentioned specifically is