Deanh

beg to dis-agree...all of the power generation industry is also getting nailed....its not just burgening sales its the industry as a whole....a lot af large players are basically pulling out...Siemens is an example..they may come back, but warts are rearing their heads and quite frankly the Business model is getting questioned as being fiscally viable...

thats the face I make when someone tells me how wonderful their Tesla is....lol...the fuel cell tests make me think they are adressing a BEV weakness , long distance towing, and also makes me question if Diesel engines days are numbered.. A test fleet of eight hydrogen fuel cell Ford E-Transits will run for six-month periods over the three-year project to 2025. The test fleet data will provide insights into the total cost of owning and operating a large van with enhanced zero-emission range and uptime that matches a diesel-powered equivalent.

I heard they are testing hydrogen.....

maybe...maybe not...everything about Electric seems to be crumbling at a rather ( according to manufacturers ) alarming rate creating pauses , pullbacks, solvency and avoidance...and thats GLOBALLY....and the whole industry is significantly more complex than an LED bulb ( which I embraced by the way )...Im 100% convinced a majority of those involved are now cursing that they bit off more than they can chew...

LMAO....my owners will love them....AND the flooring...maybe well get a Raptor if we take 10....

you trying to put me on suicide watch?....lol....Id prefer they ditch the Transit BEV altogether and bring their Custom...they should NOT walk away from the compact Cargo van market...the Custome is a tad bigger than the Connect...PERFECT size wize...and hopefully they learned that range is important....

not sure I would agree 100%...its STILL leaves a devastating environental signature not to mention human rights issues...but F--k it right?....sorry, but I think it coat tails on an extremely well promoted AND funded line of BS thats lining some already stuffed pockets...

its a media darling ( although THAT gleam is wearing off fast ) its Govt mandated and appeals to all the Climate Change groupies subsidized by your hard earned tax dollars...dont know how much more something/ ANYTHING could scream virtue signaling more....and Ill say it AGAIN, I think its shelf life may be limited....( and secretly Im hoping for some alternative thats actually BETTER environmentally ) and honest question...how is it chnaging the way we do business?...right now that equates to losing money and garnering flooring on slow moving inventory whilst piling monies into a Govt promoted wet dream....time will tell, but right now its a friggen disaster and getting worse....

good point...but what utilizes more energy...charging a battery with just the engines parasitic losses or adding in the whole enchilada...I like the concept, and as someone mentioned, its Volt like...and love the advertising moniker..."unlimited mileage"...wonderfully mis-leading....cant wait for a road test...

Id say thats Lia Thomas....balls out.....that said...I wonder if they ( the plants) could be adapted somewhat should EVs NOT ultimately be the avenue to pursue. Hate to say this, but personally I see an awful lot of this EV BS as nothing more than flavor of the month ( year ) virtue signalling...you can say you will be releasing 30 new EVs by such and such a date and you are a Media Darling...no one cares youre losing your ass to appese...

taxpayer $ at work....without those $ I doubt there would be one EV manufacturer surviving right now, perhaps even tesla...kinda scary. And even Elon has stated time and agian Tesla stock is grossly overvalued...heck, its like watching a Rodeo. Sad thing is, the hypes gone...they are literally trickling off lots...theres no waiting lists in the slightest and they are sitting...yet hybrids are GONE before they even hit the lot. IMO ( and this is opinion ) Ford would have been WAY better off with a more gradual transition by utilizing all the damn chips in their "hot selling" EVs into Hybrid drivetrains for at least a few years and let other manufacturers make the mistakes they could observe learn from...instead, they participated, made the mistakes themselves and cost themselves a pretty penny.... I truly pity the early adopters of EVs, whilst the technology is improving leaps and bound, the early adopters are going to lose it when they turn in their GOVT BEV clinical study..the resale is cringe worthy...yet the hybrids are holding all the $...again...slow and steady wins the race, FORD IMO made a grave mistake...and Im sure their heirachy would agree somewhat in hindsight..if you want to talk coolaid, BEVs are it...at least right now...

we were told that BEV/ hybrid heavy duty trucks wont be pursued until CAFE demands it...so, Id say that avenue is coming...they just dis-continued the Diesels in the 650s and up...

no..I would say my relationship with them ( Ford ) is somewhat more hands on than yours,Im kinda in the trenches, not an armchair observer, BUT yes its a different angle from the Sales standpoint and Customer reaction...that ( Transit ) BEV may rank as one of Fords biggest turds ever and Ill stand by my comment....and Fords all in on electric has backfired rather embarassingly....Ive stated more than one time, slow and steady wins the long game...the sprint risks a pulled muscle ( witness all the failed start ups and companies curently struggling such as Rivain and Lucid which without subsidy would be gone by now anyways, AND Fords loss per unit ) Ive also stated EVs time MAY come...just that its just not a "just add water " and be done scenario. Name one manufacturer other than Tesla, thats sold herein the US that profits solely from BEV, or whos EVs are profitable....wonderful use of Taxpayers money subsidizing GOVTs wet dream....it may come, but right now its financial quicksand....

NO...their handling of the Transit BEV was a f----king disaster.....Toyota has been wary from day one buying into all the hype, which IMO was strategically extremely wise....

I will laugh my ass off if that ever happens, and my bet is Ill be gone before that debaucle is instituted, IF it ever is.......trust me on this one, as inept as some of Fords Corporate practices are, the "Dealership" is the only buffer between the customer and Corporate...Ford cant handle customer issues in the tiniest of fashions, and they prove it time and time again with what they relay to customers one on one...and then theres all the wonderful "we will handle this" roll outs of Mavericks, Broncos, Bronco Sports, Transit Trails etc etc etc...Off screen they have also been forcing retirements of people that actually KNEW what they were doing and replacing then with scripted "yes" men/ women at significantly lower pay grades....

not just that...I could compile a list from over the last few decades...one classic that I called as soon as it was mandated was the necessity to obtain customers e-mail adress's ( this gos back a while and there were penalties if we didnt comply ) This after drumming into sales personel how importatant it was to build a personal relationship with customers and "trust"...only to COMPLETELY circumvent and backdoor the salesperson that had worked hard on said relationship through DIRECT contact from Ford themselves with the salesperson COMPLETELY left out of the equation....all id did was dilute any form of "loyalty"....in a nutshell, Ford pretty much treats its Dealer base compoletely dis-respectfully

CAFE has an awful lot to answer for, forcing Ford to literally LOSE money chasing a damn near impossible dream...

ah...but how many can that 911 seat....?....or tow.....

Explorers are being held up right now due to the wonder full recall 23S48....camera issue that has also effected a BUNCH of Fords lineup..

what exactly is a Ranger?

wasnt the Flex considered good aerodynamically?....

diesels are now past tense in the 650s and up....writing is on the wall for Diesels full stop I think...isntFord testing hydrogen heavy duties?

nutshell...they made a grave error by buying into the hype, and now they are basically extorting dealers to help them get rid of their building stockpiles of units buyers have lost interest in.....not going to help the Dealers in the slightest if buying trends of EVs continue the way they are....

Subarus are exceptionally popular with the LBGTQ crowd.....I have a few friends I give crap....

its the old adage....take 10 of these unsellable anchors and well give you 1 unit you can make $ on...but well frown on addendums......