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Must be a misprint. I can’t imagine that big of a difference. 3300 for a half ton pick-up seems too high.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/09/29/2021-ford-f150-engine-towing-payload-specs/

Production of the 21 model started last week so probably by late October/early November.

Could be Louisville also - it is a C2 plant.

If I remember correctly PREMiERdrum said the Fusion “Subaru fighter” is on track for a late 2021 Job 1.

At first blush, it doesn’t make sense, but the 6.8 will be a physically smaller engine than the 5.0 and it almost certainly will be cheaper to build. An aluminum version would probably weigh no more than the 5.0.

Agreed, the Escape is a completely different situation. But I think you’ll agree with me that its not a good one.

Are you also ready to ax the Escape? Sales the first two quarters of 2020 are down the same % as Fusion and rebates are slightly higher on the Escape. Plus its built with much more expensive labor. And that’s for a brand new model.

Any speculation on the 6.8 liter engine Windsor is getting? A version of the 7.3?

https://www.freep.com/story/money/cars/ford/2020/09/17/ford-invests-rouge-electric-f-150-uaw/5819541002/

I doubt Ford will be building 2021 models in spring 2022. Any unfilled 2021 orders will likely just get pushed to the 2022 model. I can see Ford bringing out the 2023 model in early 2022, maybe January.

Your comparisons are a bit oranges/apples. Next generation models almost always are priced higher than outgoing models. Look at the new Escape and Explorer prices. The current Fusion starts at $23170. The long in the tooth Fusion and new Escape have similar rebates. Doesn’t look like it will happen, but if Ford would bring out a new Fusion sedan, it too would be on the “cheaper” C2 platform and would probably start above the Escape. Bronco Sport prices are similar to the Escape when you add AWD. I think the biggest reason the higher end Fusion models weren’t moving was because Ford hadn’t properly updated the car to keep up with competition.

Chevy still sells the Malibu.

Maybe the HP and torque numbers for the 3.5 hybrid will be released.

https://twitter.com/mrlevine/status/1304788891791060992?s=20

And Oakville.

Any fresh news regarding Fusion Active?

I agree although Ford hasn’t delivered on the hybrids (regarding volume). It’s almost impossible to find a hybrid Escape or Explorer and it looks like the F150 hybrid volume will be rather low. Talk of an electric vehicle replacing the Edge seems silly, there just isn’t the potential demand there (yet) to do so, especially with the Mustang Mach-E to compete against. Edge is one of Ford’s biggest selling models.

I wonder if lowering Explorer prices will have much effect on either Ford or the consumer. I can see Ford lowering incentives so that the actual price paid by the buyer isn’t much different for the 2021 model vs. the 2020.

I don’t doubt that but I don’t think know that it means much. There aren’t many 25 year olds buying luxury vehicles. They can’t afford them. Lots of 60 and over folks can and do though

Well the slide says “Whitespace” so its either Fusion Active or Maverick and the silhouette looks like Fusion Active.

If the covered vehicle in the chart is an accurate rendition, it isn’t a truck.

My local dealer (rural) has 8 new Escapes in stock. They’ve been there all spring. Three are three black SE’s that are so bland and drab that whoever buys them will have to check their pulse when getting out of them to see if they’re still alive. I agree that a little effort from Ford in the way of wheels and exterior bright work for the SE models would help a lot. It’s too bad the styling is what it is - apparently the new platform provides a good driving experience and the drivetrains are much improved- complaints about the 1.5 NVH not withstanding.

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/06/30/ford-ranger-performance-packages/

I don’t have any data, but I’d bet the failure rate is a very small percentage of total engines. The 2.7 is slightly more fuel efficient than the 3.3 - 1 mpg better according to the EPA ratings.