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They could probably go even smaller and yet keep the same interior dimensions by pushing the wheels to the corners. I’m all for giving the escape some more style. With the Maverick Lobo coming out, could we also be seeing a resurgence of the sport truck/suv? If so, a new sporty escape would be perfect for that. You can’t do that kind of vehicle with the bronco sport.

Am I the only one who thought it had been released for years? I can’t believe it’s not even on sale yet. The original concept came out in 2017. It’s already time for a redesign!😆

changing up the c pillar and the rear end completely changed the athletic look of the Escalade IQ. The IQL almost looks like a wagon in comparison.

I’m actually back to thinking this isn’t camo. You can clearly see the expedition lettering is outlined in yellow, exactly what you’d expect on the tremor. And you can see the ford badging. If this was a giant black sticker covering the rear, I doubt they would have put the lettering or the logo on top of that. My guess is that this is in fact the final version, or that particular part is an unpainted prototype of some sort. i have no explanation for the lights. At first I thought it might be something like on the explorer, but it looks nothing like that.

Interesting. I’m not sure the bronco sport is ready to cover the entire compact suv market by itself (yes I know there’s talk of the small suv ev but who know when that will happen). The current bronco sports biggest problems were its lack of tech and its size. The tech has been fixed with the 2025 refresh, but it’s still too small of a vehicle for families. The escape was 10” longer and had much better rear legroom with its sliding rear seat. I think the bronco sport needs to grow, at least to the size of the current escape, to be more attractive to families. Adding a fwd versions would also make it appeal to a wider audience. I’ve been an escape fan for years, minus this last gen. I hate to see it go. I think with a good redesign, there’s still a place for it in ford’s lineup.

Or bring the screen forward where the IP normally is. There’s no need for it to be that far back if you aren’t having a full width screen. Another option would be to center the 24” screen, then add a 3rd tiny screen like the Mach E has right above the steering wheel.

From what I’ve read, it sounds like he’s been a part of ford’s designs for quite a while now. Not sure if that’s good or bad. I wouldn’t mind seeing some new ideas design wise though.

Surely the black is just some leftover camo that hasn’t been removed right? Thats horrible if not. I also really like the interior, except for that screen. It needs the navigator screen, just looks unfinished without it.

When I see that, the first thing I think of is this. it might be ok on a black expy, but it looks like it got in a wreck and you picked up a different color bumper from the junkyard.

I agree with the bronco prices being part of the problem. The cheapest bronco you can get now is a 2 dr big bend for 40k. Even with the new standard equipment for 2024, $35-37k seems like a much more reasonable price. A similar price cut across the board could help sales. I like both. Timberline gave some good styling updates with some light off-road ability. Tremor focused on better off road upgrades with less styling changes. If they get rid of timberline, it would be nice to see the SUVs still get some dramatic styling changes as well as the off road upgrades.

build and price is up https://shop.ford.com/configure/broncosport/2025/model/customize/bigbend?intcmp=reveal-seconNav-fbc big bend starts at $29,995 badlands at 39,995 sas is $2990 on badlands and $3535 on outerbanks big bend gets black diamond package for $2570 Here’s some more good info and videos https://www.broncosportforum.com/forum/threads/official-2025-bronco-sport-gets-sasquatch-off-road-package-new-tech-and-features.11963/ Looks like there’s some new standard equipment too wireless charging 12.3” digital dash 13.2” touchscreen wireless android auto and carplay copilot 360 assist+ usb-c outlets on the dash Including this video as it gives you a good look at the big bend, which seems to be the most popular model, at least in my area.

https://www.ford.com/suvs/bronco-sport/2025/#ma-bs-01-03 Really like the Sas package but looking at the above link, the badlands looks almost identical. I’d probably opt to save a few thousand and skip SAS and just get a badlands. Looks like all trims have the same grille now, just in different colors (pics aren’t the greatest so could be wrong on that). Free wheelin package sticking around is hilarious. Guess ford ordered too many stickers and red wheels last year and needed to get rid of them still. I would have liked to see a bit more change to the exterior on the other trims. Most of the wheels look new, but are so similar to the old ones that you wonder what the point of changing them was. I guess most of the refresh money went to the interior, where it was needed most. The interior does looks much better now and finally gets sync 4, which it should have debuted with in the first place.

I’m not too sure about that Chinese edge. That uptick in the sheet metal on the rear pillar looks a bit strange to me. It would look much better if it was flat. it looks better in a sportier trim without the chrome, but would still benefit from that one design change. This also looks pretty close to the explorer in size that I would be worried about it cannibalizing explorer sales. Where the Chinese edge shines is its interior. It looks much more upscale than most ford interiors. It’s a tough call on which, if any, ford should bring to NA. I think the Everest could cover more price points (XL to Raptor) and it already shares most of its parts with the ranger and bronco so costs shouldn’t be too high. It also gives you the off-road segment that the Edge cannot. However, edge is more luxurious, has FWD, more tech, and has a bit more space which might make it more appealing to families.

That looks like the Canoo truck. I’m not a fan of these can forward designs. Even the GM electric trucks seem to have a slightly forward cab which doesn’t look good. I think the rivian nailed the proportions perfectly. The Nikola badger has pretty good proportions too.

This right here. Removable top is the main thing for most bronco buyers. I’ve suggested a fixed roof over on 6g and basically got laughed at lol.

This thing is so cool. Really like those wheels too. Wish I could get them for my bronco.

https://www.motor1.com/news/730984/ford-everest-tremor-specs/

I’ll start by saying I think a 4 dr mustang could be cool and I have no problem with it, but I think it’s an incredibly risky venture, especially after a 1.9 billion loss on EVs. Sport sedans usually work on luxury models, but most affordable sports sedans fail. Kia stinger is a good recent example. Chevy SS is also a good example, but I think it was a little more pricey. You might say the charger worked, but it’s more of the exception than the rule. It also shared a platform and many parts with the challenger and 300. It’s also old as dirt and all the equipment, engineering, etc was paid off years ago. Throw in fleet sales and Dodge was probably making a decent profit on it and didn’t mind that its sales (70-80k) were fairly low. Ford’s situation will be completely different.

I think it would be tough for ford to make it under $25k. Even including the tax credit, it might be hard to get that low. To qualify for the tax credits, aren’t there requirements now? Ford would have to make sure it meets all those requirements. Maybe that’s not a big deal. I also hate these tax credits. It provides no incentive to the automakers to try and make a cheaper vehicle.

Yeah I agree, midsize does seem a bit odd. You see what a success the maverick has been and you’d think that would be the obvious choice. It’s smaller, lighter, and lower to the ground, all things that would help an EV

Ford could make small vehicles for a profit if they really tried, but they have more important issues to focus on like quality control and their EV situation. I also think other brands can make them profitably because they aren’t built in the USA. GM is importing 3 or 4 vehicles under 25k that are some of its best sellers. Prices keep going up. The average new car price is almost 50k now. If prices continue to increase, the pool of people who can afford new cars is going to shrink.

That pic is actually the original design for the Mach E, before it was completely redesigned into the Mach E we have today. See the story below. That’s why I was joking they would rename the 3 row as a Mustang. It seems to be following a similar path that the Mach E did. https://www.thedrive.com/news/38444/this-is-what-the-ford-mustang-mach-e-almost-looked-like

I predict we will get to see what it looks like in about 5 years when ford releases the new 3 row Mustang Boss-E 😆😆😆! Farley will tell stories about how the original design looked like crap and he couldn’t let that slide. He’ll even show us pictures of the original design and we will see how much better it looks now that it’s a mustang! sound familiar?😆

T3 lightning and the little truck ev I’m guessing.

https://insideevs.com/news/730891/ford-three-row-electric-suv-dead/ confirmation the 3 row is canceled.