suv_guy_19 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) http://media.mainstreetcommerce.com/3.9/me...ba-bbc6c7d369ac See how that 150mph speedo on the old 300M looks sooooo classy! The more numbers you have it seems, the harder it is to tell your speed....hmmm...guess some peoples theories don't hold lol Edited April 5, 2007 by suv_guy_19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) Same buttons on the Edge and they are cheap as can be, go check one out sometime, I have, so I\'m not just looking at these pictures and making an opinion.. Agreed on the Edge, the CLICKITY CLICK CLICK, worse-than-Kia-cheap, hollow sounding switchgear is embarrasing. That includes the stalks and the headlight switch as well, hopefully they won't be sharing those either, but your concerns are valid & understandable, considering both will be built at the same plant. Anyway, Flex's interior looks decent, the overall work including the steering wheel are a nice improvement over the mediocrity people here love to cheerlead all the time: Edited April 5, 2007 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN ANY SWITCHGEAR BEFORE THE FLEX AND THE FLEX SWITCHGEAR ... (as long as we are talking about the dash) the only carryover switchgear is on the doors and the rear seat DVD player, and some random seat folding buttons. All the gear on the dash is brand new, and if you can decipher their material quality, tactile response, and other dimensions of switchgear quality from PICTURES, you are a genius. You can bitch about the Edge all you want - I agree - but the Flex switchgear is all new - so until you go sit in it and play with the buttons, claims like those are irrelevant and unfounded. Igor WTH??? First look at the gauges, ford uses the same cheap IP in every Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury.. SAME buttons as the Flex.. And the same as the lowly Focus.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) So, first the Edge, now the Flex. My guess is within a few years that Ford will drop both the Explorer and Expedition or for sure one of the two. Their replacements have arrived. With respect to the switchgear and gauges. I think most car companies (Ford included) are hoping that customers don't notice they use the same stuff across all of their lines for the most part. GM does it, Mazda does, Honda, Toyota. It's pretty prevalent, and it's not just restricted to interior switchgear but also things like, radiators, AC Units, wiring harness, fuse boxes, window motors, wiper motors, brake components, ABS components, stereo units, speakers, on and on. This is why I tell people if you spend the money for the big high end version of whatever car company offerings you just flat get ripped off because it's pretty much the same car you get at the entry level model. Edited April 5, 2007 by BlackHorse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) The more numbers you have it seems, the harder it is to tell your speed....hmmm...guess some peoples theories don't hold lol Nothing like making shit up to make a point.. And do you think every car on the planet has 300m IP's?? Edited April 5, 2007 by Blueblood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 WTH??? First look at the gauges, ford uses the same cheap IP in every Ford, Lincoln, and Mercury.. SAME buttons as the Flex.. And the same as the lowly Focus.. Ok..see those are the same butons as the f150....im not sure how ou want them to feel when you push them...you push them...they go in...com back out..doesnt realy feel cheap to me...I would say its in the wieght of the doors the quietness, and the feel of the vehicle that determines quality for most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Blueblood: There's a difference between GAUGES and BUTTONS. You can't find the Flex's buttons on any Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORG Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Ford has more orphaned components than ever before, but it's good to see they no longer believe one-size fits all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Hmmm... seems it does share the Edge's terrible headlight switch and stalks. Not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Hmmm... seems it does share the Edge's terrible headlight switch and stalks. Not good. Oh come onnow...yor jsut looking for problems that take all of 5 seconds to get used to...that most people never notice...that is matter of opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Ok..see those are the same butons as the f150....im not sure how ou want them to feel when you push them...you push them...they go in...com back out..doesnt realy feel cheap to me...I would say its in the wieght of the doors the quietness, and the feel of the vehicle that determines quality for most. It's not the "feel" of them that's bad, it's the look, they look cheap, really cheap, and thy are what you see the most of while sitting in front of them while driving. Cheap out on stuff people cannot see, not what they can.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Oh come onnow...yor jsut looking for problems that take all of 5 seconds to get used to...that most people never notice...that is matter of opinion. or just finding the littlest thing to gripe about since for some reason they can't like the product.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 It's not the "feel" of them that's bad, it's the look, they look cheap, really cheap, and thy are what you see the most of while sitting in front of them while driving. Cheap out on stuff people cannot see, not what they can.. Ye things like the frame and crumple zones.....good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Blueblood: There's a difference between GAUGES and BUTTONS. Really?? You can't find the Flex's buttons on any Ford. Uh.. wrong, did you look at the pictures I just posted? SAME exact button on the Flex steering wheel as on the Edge and Focus... I've been in the Edge and the 2008 focus, I know those buttons.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Ye things like the frame and crumple zones.....good idea No, like the plastics out of sight, nobody said anything about crumple zones but you, straw men don't help your arguement one bit.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 No, like the plastics out of sight, nobody said anything about crumple zones but you, straw men don't help your arguement one bit.. I'm saying that whay your saying is really trivial...because its only your opinion that those are ugly buttons...I don't mind tem as they are clearly labeled and functional unlike many others. The are lighted and seem fine to me..and most people...I really miss the on wheel cruise in my magnum...intrepid has it but not magum....i miss it...You can use those "ugly" ford buttons without looking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Well I hope most people don't care any buy them anyway.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Oh come onnow...yor jsut looking for problems that take all of 5 seconds to get used to...that most people never notice...that is matter of opinion. It's not a matter of opinion, out of all the products on any Ford showroom, the Edge is the one which feels the cheapest. As bad as the overall work is, the thing that contributes the most to that, is its switchgear. I doubt anyone would be thrilled to have such loud & cheap sounding switchgear, on what otherwise appears to project an ambience of quality and solidity. To have such an interior sound like a Kia would ruin the effect, IMO. It's a legitimate concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Uh.. wrong, did you look at the pictures I just posted? SAME exact button on the Flex steering wheel as on the Edge and Focus...I've been in the Edge and the 2008 focus, I know those buttons.. Okay, then. Console buttons are all unique. Although probably not entirely unique. In any case, this is pretty Wine Specatorish stuff. Like I'm sure someone's going to click on a steering wheel button and then storm out of a dealership. Or that if they approve of the button, they're going to be any kind of customer you would want to deal with on a regular basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Okay, then. Console buttons are all unique. Although probably not entirely unique. In any case, this is pretty Wine Specatorish stuff. Like I'm sure someone's going to click on a steering wheel button and then storm out of a dealership. Or that if they approve of the button, they're going to be any kind of customer you would want to deal with on a regular basis. Yea I pretty much agree there, maybe I should take up wine tasting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Yea I pretty much agree there, maybe I should take up wine tasting? The most important thing is that everyone else is a moron. Once you've mastered that, you can be an outstanding wine taster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) Seems Blueblood was right, what you guys want is Ford be never above mediocrity, and forever the Walmart of automobiles. You really think it won't matter if people notice that this --while projecting quality-- sounds CLICKITY CLICK CLICK Chinese cheap? Because that's how the Edge sounds like, even the swtichgear in the Aveo transmits a better feel of quality. Edited April 5, 2007 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherminator98 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Seems Blueblood was right, what you guys want is Ford be the Walmart of automobiles. You really think it won't matter if people notice this, while looking the part, likes to sound like something built in China? Because that's how the Edge sounds like, even the swtichgear in the Aveo transmits a better feel of quality. No we don't want Ford to be Walmart, but a cheap looking swtichgear isn't going to turn off a consumer thats interested in a product. You really have to be splitting hairs over a car if that tips the favor in your car buying purchase. Thus all the winetaster comments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcsario Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 (edited) My gripe is how cheap and hollow they sound in the Edge, not so much how they look. Things like that can be fixed, silvrsvt. They need to address that, they need to be as good as the imports on everything, not just looks. And yes, interior quality is important in this day and age. By your logic Ford should just go back to hollow sounding doors as well. "Wine tasters" my ass, stop being a robotic apologist, you appreciate improvements in quality like those. Phrases like "the sound and feel of quality" weren't created just because. Edited April 5, 2007 by pcsario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bravestar Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 The steering wheel looks out of place, and horrible, looks like something out of the 70's, what's with the tacked on v-shaped airbag cover??? That and the cheapo gauges need to go. Who uses 120 mph speedo's anymore? And don't say nobody drives that fast, the 120 mph speedo and the lack of numbers (20mph spacing?) is a huge oversight and shows a lack of caring about the details. Besides that the interior looks good, minus the same old cheap Ford switchgear of course. I'm with you on the numbers on the speedometer. With a quick glance, you don't want to have to kind of figure if you are 10 mile per hour from 20 or 5. Are numbers for the speedometer expensive? And why does a vehicle this size not have any room in the back seating position? Major goof if you ask me. I'm am thinking what other vehicle this size has this kind of rear leg room? This is not China, we are big fat Americans that value room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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