el norte Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I got through the first page and had to address this...No, I'm not a snob. But depending on your profession, sometimes you have to "fit in" that is the world we live in (but FYI, I would only buy a vehicle if I loved the design, i.e. XF/STS/RR). Of the Ford brands, my immediate family owns a F150, Mustang, Focus, and Explorer...but I am getting older and with promotions I have to look the part of my position, if not for me but for clients. The point was the customer for life scenario, Toyota has built a great business on this. A friend has an IS and every time he drops his car off with Lexus they give him the next best thing, a sportier (pricier version), or a GS to drive around until he gets his car back. They are developing a repeat customer using this practice, and the practice applies to Ford. Ford has such a huge market with the Mustang what do they develop these customers into, future Fusion & MKS buyers maybe, but then what? There will be nothing else if they continue to shed their luxury brands, this is my point. well, my father in law bought one of those lexus lx-470 big suv's , something like 75 grand. the ride leveling switch went bad, and sat in the shop for three months. he always makes a joke about how the part is being shipped by canoe. hahaha, anyways the dealer gives him some shity-ass camry to drive. needless to say he will never buy a toyota product again. as toyota grows we'll see how long that "customer for life" lasts. their quality will suffer, ie tundra, and the unhappy employee's in kentucky building the camry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LincolnFan Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Why the hell did he buy a Lexus Land Crapper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el norte Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Why the hell did he buy a Lexus Land Crapper? lol, you can't tell the rich nothing, to stubborn to listen i guess, so he paid the price! hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Richard is a er... a person from the southern states? Would have never guessed. Hmm. Is South Dakota a southern state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 If all goes well, the agreements are signed, and the evening will be spent at an even better restaurant where your client will order insanely expensive wine, and in general, prove that he can spend your money... Don't forget the part where, over cigars and brandy, even later in the evening, the client talks about how much 'waste' there is in government, and how government should be run like a business. Actually, xr7g428 probably provided the most lucid explanation for why the car matters--the only question is why JM is on the hook for his own car, if his car is making his employer money... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Don't forget the part where, over cigars and brandy, even later in the evening, the client talks about how much 'waste' there is in government, and how government should be run like a business. Actually, xr7g428 probably provided the most lucid explanation for why the car matters--the only question is why JM is on the hook for his own car, if his car is making his employer money... Agreed, if the car is that big a deal because it has to be part of the presentation and all the other posh circumstance you just described XR then it's not something JM is going to be paying for out of his own pocket. If you're dealing on that level the car is provided by the company and at the point if JM were the real deal he couldn't care less what luxury offerings Ford does or doesn't have. I already pointed this out in fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) I think this question is fair, and considering the first post, deserves an answer. So Cal boy here...yes a coaster.....car of choice for Realtors....big , black and Euro.....apparently they HAVE to drive said type of car to be veiwed sucessful by potential customers....showing a million dollar house and showing up in an Escort diesel doesn't cut the mustard....BMW's and benz's are more common than Taxis here....me, I love the jags...just can;t afford the damn things....also muffy cant be seen in anything less than a 500 series 600 mile a month lease Benz to go to Pavillions to pick up her Tofu after having a $300 pedicure...it is very "Keep up with the Jone's" here to the point of bordering on pathetically humourous..... Edited June 18, 2007 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 if JM were the real deal he couldn't care less what luxury offerings Ford does or doesn't have. In a total vacuum he probably doesn't care, but in the "I need to impress certain people to get ahead in my chosen career" environment, yeah, it does matter. Of course, you can question the motives of someone who chose a career that imposes such 'keep up with the Joneses' expectations, but really, how many of us could stand that close a scrutiny over the choices we've made? Bottom line, IMO, is no matter what you do, there's someone else doing it better than you, or they're making more money at it than you, and there's not a perfect job anywhere in the world, just a job with hassles you can deal with. When professional athletes get paid a fortune at the same time that the most important jobs (parenting, among others) are done for free, you get a pretty good idea how pointless it is to judge yourself or others based on income, vehicle, etc. But at the same time, if you need a Jag to impress a client, either buy the Jag or change jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 In a total vacuum he probably doesn't care, but in the "I need to impress certain people to get ahead in my chosen career" environment, yeah, it does matter. Of course, you can question the motives of someone who chose a career that imposes such 'keep up with the Joneses' expectations, but really, how many of us could stand that close a scrutiny over the choices we've made? Bottom line, IMO, is no matter what you do, there's someone else doing it better than you, or they're making more money at it than you, and there's not a perfect job anywhere in the world, just a job with hassles you can deal with. When professional athletes get paid a fortune at the same time that the most important jobs (parenting, among others) are done for free, you get a pretty good idea how pointless it is to judge yourself or others based on income, vehicle, etc. But at the same time, if you need a Jag to impress a client, either buy the Jag or change jobs. I always used to chuckle at the guys my ex used to work with ( mortgage business...company new Century....need I say more ) they were making STOOPID money and had the $$$$ Black Euro latest craze 450hp GLEAMING Mommo wheeled M series bimmer or the like, the Rolex, Persol wearing ,Armani suited success story trying to impress the big busted blonde haired, black rooted bimbo whilst dowsing her w Apple -tinis....etc etc...THEN you find out thay are 30 years of age STILL LIVING AT HOME W MUM! says a lot about Californian priorities doesn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) Well yeah. California real estate is stupid expensive. BTW--apple martinis are for wusses, girly-men, and girls that want to seem cute. Cute and just a little bit dangerous. Give me a good scotch or Irish whiskey any day. Edited June 18, 2007 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Of course, you can question the motives of someone who chose a career that imposes such 'keep up with the Joneses' expectations, but really, how many of us could stand that close a scrutiny over the choices we've made? I'd be alright with it, so long as you don't go back before the age of 17. lol I was well on my way to becoming a real punk ass thug, thank God for the Army. Anyway, given Deanh's descriptions of life in California, I'm glad I don't live there. Actually though it's not the first time I've heard such descriptions of the culture out there. I'd be a fish out of water to be sure, I can't abide that kind of thinking. Now, scenario, I'm going to be the money man getting off the jet to be lavished upon by none other than JM because he wants me to give him big money. So I'm the client. First off, I hate kiss asses so don't bother with that or you'll lose the deal. If you show up in a Jag I'm not going to be impressed because it shows me you didn't bother to check the reliability ratings of your expensive automobile. Same goes if you show up in a BMW. If you can't research something so basic as that, how the hell do you expect me to give you a lot of money? Given that I have a staff of four that goes with me on these kinds of things your best bet is to have a limo or at the very least two large sedans. Said sedans should probably have drivers that aren't JM because I expect him to be making his initial pitch, not driving. So something in a large new Benz would be fine, you could even go with the Lincoln version of the Expedition because if I'm that kind of money, I probably have at least one bodyguard, and he's probably got some toys he needs to store in the vehicle. Just food for thought JM. Sometimes you just have to look at it from the other point of view, not what you think the other point of view is. :shades: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Of course, BlackHorse, you probably wouldn't be that guy on that plane.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) I'd be alright with it, so long as you don't go back before the age of 17. lol I was well on my way to becoming a real punk ass thug, thank God for the Army. Anyway, given Deanh's descriptions of life in California, I'm glad I don't live there. Actually though it's not the first time I've heard such descriptions of the culture out there. I'd be a fish out of water to be sure, I can't abide that kind of thinking. Now, scenario, I'm going to be the money man getting off the jet to be lavished upon by none other than JM because he wants me to give him big money. So I'm the client. First off, I hate kiss asses so don't bother with that or you'll lose the deal. If you show up in a Jag I'm not going to be impressed because it shows me you didn't bother to check the reliability ratings of your expensive automobile. Same goes if you show up in a BMW. If you can't research something so basic as that, how the hell do you expect me to give you a lot of money? Given that I have a staff of four that goes with me on these kinds of things your best bet is to have a limo or at the very least two large sedans. Said sedans should probably have drivers that aren't JM because I expect him to be making his initial pitch, not driving. So something in a large new Benz would be fine, you could even go with the Lincoln version of the Expedition because if I'm that kind of money, I probably have at least one bodyguard, and he's probably got some toys he needs to store in the vehicle. Just food for thought JM. Sometimes you just have to look at it from the other point of view, not what you think the other point of view is. :shades: Actually B-horse...if one can weed thru all the pretentious BS there are truley some real good people here...I was kinda stereotyping a little bit but as we know those Stereotypes are based on truth. Not my style at all, gimme a cold beer on a hot day or a glass o red at night and I'm a happy camper. I will admit to having a weakness for Jags...always have always will...they just have a class about them that their German bretheren do not...and it seems like every dumb ass Bimbo with a cell phone drives a 3 series Bimmer whilst cutting my ass of on a motorcycle because the turn signal stalk has become redundant. And last time I checked I think jags dependability was ranked ABOVE either or their German counterparts? off subject a little ...and PS...WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH GUYS GETTING THE TIPS OF THEIR HAIR BLEACHED???????????????????? Edited June 18, 2007 by Deanh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvrsvt Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 PS...WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH GUYS GETTING THE TIPS OF THEIR HAIR BLEACHED???????????????????? Thought it was a gay thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackHorse Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Of course, BlackHorse, you probably wouldn't be that guy on that plane.... I hate to fly. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Thought it was a gay thing? I'm gonna start calling out this $hit...that and guys that shave their arms!!!!!!!!!!! WTF???????????????? gimme a break...vanity here in droves......advertisment by Agassi said it all..."Image is Everything..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el norte Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Of course, BlackHorse, you probably wouldn't be that guy on that plane.... i think i just pissed myself! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 My first car was a mustang, I went to college, and will be looking to upgrade. If Ford sells LR/Jag will they have anything that is in my opinion on the level of BMW and Mercedes? I kind of can't connect these three -- you had a Mustang, you went to college... 'kay - how wealthy are you now? I can't connect "recent college grad" to "have the $ to buy a luxury car," basically. Even if you're laying down 60 grand in real estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el norte Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Actually B-horse...if one can weed thru all the pretentious BS there are truley some real good people here...I was kinda stereotyping a little bit but as we know those Stereotypes are based on truth. Not my style at all, gimme a cold beer on a hot day or a glass o red at night and I'm a happy camper. I will admit to having a weakness for Jags...always have always will...they just have a class about them that their German bretheren do not...and it seems like every dumb ass Bimbo with a cell phone drives a 3 series Bimmer whilst cutting my ass of on a motorcycle because the turn signal stalk has become redundant. And last time I checked I think jags dependability was ranked ABOVE either or their German counterparts? off subject a little ...and PS...WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH GUYS GETTING THE TIPS OF THEIR HAIR BLEACHED???????????????????? well-put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadrunner Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) BTW--apple martinis are for wusses, girly-men, and girls that want to seem cute. Cute and just a little bit dangerous. Give me a good scotch or Irish whiskey any day. One stupid night I was inspired by Zach Braff from Scrubs to get an apple-tini... you can add that they taste like crap compared to straight shots of vodka too. Edited June 18, 2007 by Roadrunner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 One stupid night I was inspired by Zach Braff from Scrubs to get an apple-tini... you can add that they taste like crap compared to straight shots of vodka too. chick drink...nuff said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 (edited) I can't remember if I've just tasted an apple martini, or was forced to drink an entire one. I think my over zealous hostess stuck one in my hand, and not being one to waste alcohol :lol:.... They are terrible. You can get a similar effect by dissolving a sour apple Jolly Rancher in a glass of turpentine. Edited June 18, 2007 by RichardJensen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanh Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I can't remember if I've just tasted an apple martini, or was forced to drink an entire one. I think my over zealous hostess stuck one in my hand, and not being one to waste alcohol :lol:.... They are terrible. You can get a similar effect by dissolving a sour apple Jolly Rancher in a glass of turpentine. they do serve their purpose though, only 3 things can make me attractive to the opposite sex...alcohol, blindness or the lightswitch..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 chick drink...nuff said? Oh no. It's worse than just a 'chick drink'. I blame the decay of society on apple martinis. What is an apple martini? It is nothing more than the substitution of a drink that requires some degree of effort to appreciate (a regular martini) with a shot of sugary syrup, artificial flavor, artificial color, and neutral grain spirits (schnapps). Apple martinis and books 'for Dummies'--no effort required to do anything. What's next? Pre-chewed food? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichardJensen Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 they do serve their purpose though, only 3 things can make me attractive to the opposite sex...alcohol, blindness or the lightswitch..... Yeah. Until you start talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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