Trimdingman Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 (edited) spoken like a true republican HYPOCRITE...did you notice in the first sentence you said 'you got out of vietnam'but then the last sentence 'i think of myself as american' UM...didn't america lose vietnam and pull out ??? so what is it, trimdingaling? fact remains vietcong knew their own land better and had better plans, basically kicked our ass.... and again it is now vietnam 2 over in the gulf, we are stuck there until 2099 or untill we get a BOLD president in there to pull out... GO HILLIARY!!!! The reason I said "you" was because Canada wasn't in it. I did not want to take undue credit. The country of Viet Nam is communist, but who is the loser? Communism has not spread in Asia since. They also have Communism in Cuba. They got what they wanted. I hope they are enjoying it. As for Hillary, she now favors the war. She is a political animal who cares only for herself. She will not win in '08. Her husband used to bomb Iraq to bump Monica off the 6 o'clock news. :P Edited February 17, 2006 by Trimdingman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory_dayzd Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 You guys should look into the Constitution Party. Its obvious the neocon Republicans and Democrats are bought and paid for by ‘big money’. All they try to do is to divide the people. That is the oldest trick in the book, divide and conquer. Its like the joke I heard the other day. Would you rather go hunting with Cheney or for a drive with Kennedy? Either way YOU lose. Go To The Constitution Party Frequently Asked Questions Q: How long have you been around? A: In 1992, a coalition of independent state parties united to form the U.S. Taxpayers Party. In 1999, at its national nominating convention for the 2000 elections, convention delegates chose to change the party name to the "Constitution Party," believing that the new name better reflected the party’s primary policy approach of enforcing the U.S. Constitution’s provisions and limitations. Q: Who have been your presidential candidates? A: In 1992, the U.S. Taxpayers Party’s presidential candidate, Howard Phillips, was on the ballot in 21 states, with Albion Knight Jr. as his running mate. In 1996 the party achieved ballot access in 39 states, with Howard Phillips as its presidential nominee and Constitutional scholar Herb Titus as its vice-presidential nominee. Howard Phillips was elected to be the Constitution Party’s presidential nominee for the 2000 elections, and Dr. J. Curtis Frazier was selected as his vice-presidential running mate. In 2004, the Constitution Party nominated Michael Peroutka as its presidential candidate and Chuck Baldwin as his vice-presidential running mate. Q: Are you liberal or conservative? A: Neither. We are constitutionalist, which means that we support limited government under the Constitution. We also support the principles of Christian-based morality upon which our American republic and civilization have been built. We therefore oppose not only efforts to undermine constitutional government, but also the ongoing campaign to strip America of moral virtue. Q: Why does America need a Constitution Party, if we already have a Constitution? A: For several generations now, constitutional government has been under attack, especially at the federal level. An overwhelming majority of our Congressmen, judges, presidents, and other federal officeholders routinely ignore constitutional limits placed on their power. As a result, there are now very few areas where government is not involved in our lives, a radical and alarming departure from our almost-forgotten tradition of limited government and very broad individual freedoms. Because of this anti-Constitutional revolution, we are dangerously close to losing republican government altogether, and our remaining freedoms along with it. Both major parties, in spite of their rhetoric, have made their contempt for the U.S. Constitution very plain, and would have us believe that the principles it represents are outmoded. America therefore needs a new party to re-enshrine the Constitution, the only alternative to creeping despotism. Q: Will I waste my vote if I support Constitution Party candidates? A: In recent elections, millions of conservatives did not vote because they did not care for either of the major candidates, so there already exists a natural constituency of principled voters who don’t care for the “lesser of two evils†game played by the two dominant parties. Also, strong third parties often influence electoral outcomes by drawing crucial votes from Republican and Democratic candidates. A person’s vote is truly wasted when he does not use it to express his actual beliefs. How can we expect to have principled leaders if we do not have a principled electorate? A vote for the Constitution Party is a vote for the Constitution and an investment in America’s restoration. Q: Are you for or against the War in Iraq? A: We oppose the War in Iraq, both because it was embarked upon (like every other U.S. war since the Second World War) without a constitutionally-mandated declaration of war, and because it is an offensive, not a defensive war, aimed at the subjugation of a foreign regime that posed no threat to us. We believe, with the Founders, that American military forces should be used only for national defense, not to settle the quarrels of other nations, and that America’s aggressive global military posture is making us more enemies than friends. We are also opposed to all wars embarked upon under the authority of the United Nations, and are very disappointed that President Bush has repeatedly invoked UN Security Council resolutions as his primary legal justification for our invasion and occupation of Iraq. Q: What is your stand on abortion? A: We are 100% opposed to abortion, with no loopholes or exceptions. Q: Do you believe in free trade? A: No. We believe that trade across international boundaries is desirable, but we also support tariffs on foreign imports as a primary source for raising revenues for the federal government. Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution provides that duties, imposts, and excises are legitimate revenue-raising measures on which the United States government may properly rely. The United States relied on a tariff-based revenue system during most of the nation's history. “Free trade†in the modern sense of the term actually means “international trade managed and regulated by international bodies like the WTO and NAFTA,†and is therefore completely incompatible with our national sovereignty. Article I, Section 8, of the Constitution states that Congress shall have the power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations." Congress may not abdicate or transfer to others these Constitutional powers. We oppose, therefore, the unconstitutional transfer of authority over U.S. trade policy from Congress to agencies, domestic or foreign, which improperly exercise policy-setting functions with respect to U.S. trade policy. Q: I agree with most of your positions, but aren’t I better off holding my nose and voting for the Republican candidate, who is at least not as bad as his liberal Democrat opponent? A: We believe that this “lesser-of-two-evils†approach to voting is morally unjustified. Your vote should be based on principle, not expedience. For generations, Americans have held their noses and voted for the lesser of two evils, hoping that those they elect will vote in a principled manner, even though the electorate does not. If we compromise our own principles at the polls, we have no right to be indignant when those we elect do the same in Washington. Q: How does the Constitution Party differ from the Libertarian Party? A: A brief summary of the foundational differences between the Constitution Party and other political parties can be found in this information from the Constitution Party of Utah website http://www.cputah.org/html/about_us.html#Differences Both parties agree on the need for a federal government that operates strictly within constitutional limits. But we differ with the Libertarian Party on a number of issues, such as open borders and legalized drugs, both of which we strongly oppose. Most importantly, the Constitution Party is the only truly pro-life political party in the United States, whereas the Libertarian Party does not believe the federal government should protect the lives of the innocent unborn. Q: How can I get some Constitution Party bumper stickers and other party promotional materials? A: One of our party members in Wisconsin started Live Free or Die Campaign Supply to handle promotional materials for the national party. Please visit their website at http://www.lfod.com to obtain the items you desire. Q: What is the Constitution Party's position on capital punishment? A: We strongly oppose the taking of innocent life, via practices such such as abortion or euthanasia. The "Crime" plank of the CP platform (found by clicking here: http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php#Crime addresses our party's position on capital punishment or the death penalty. Our support of a State's option to impose the death penalty is limited to those who have been convicted of capital crimes. This is consistent with protecting "innocent" life because the death penalty would only be applied to those who have proven to be a threat to innocent life. The second sentence of the pro-life plank of our platform states, "The first duty of the law is to prevent the shedding of innocent blood." Please notice the word "innocent" in this sentence. This is a key word in understanding how the CP platform can be both Pro-Life on one hand, yet allows for the execution of a convicted criminal when it comes to administering justice for a capital crime. Stiff penalties, up to and including death, are for the protection of the lives of all "innocent" citizens from the actions of the few dangerous members of our society that have been found guilty by a jury of their peers. However, our platform position stresses that the decision whether or not to permit the death penalty should be left to the local and state governments. Q: Why are some state party names different? A: In 1992, a coalition of independent state parties united to form the U.S. Taxpayers Party. In 1999, the U.S. Taxpayers Party changed its name to the Constitution Party. Most state parties since then have changed their names to “Constitution Party,†but the following four are unable to do so: the American Independent Party (California), the Concerned Citizens Party (Connecticut), the Independent American Party (Nevada), and the U.S. Taxpayers Party (Michigan). http://www.constitutionparty.com/ I can see no reason why any of us would not want to support this party. Anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dark270 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 The reason I said "you" was because Canada wasn't in it. I did not want to take undue credit. The country of Viet Nam is communist, but who is the loser? Communism has not spread in Asia since. They also have Communism in Cuba. They got what they wanted. I hope they are enjoying it. As for Hillary, she now favors the war. She is a political animal who cares only for herself. She will not win in '08. Her husband used to bomb Iraq to bump Monica off the 6 o'clock news. :P better read up on history...... http://www.cyberessays.com/History/103.htm keep flapping those buttcheeks, you got major fart brewing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dark270 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 If that's all you have to say to answer an intelligent post, I would suggest that you either change your medication, or move east, middle east. your so arrogent that you cant smell the shit on your knees! :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 I can think of no greater high than a life or death fight. My father had many, and always came out victorious. He trained me well. I have had my life put on the line a few times, but nothing compared to my father, and I feel kind of guilty. I want to live up to my father's ideals. Do you want to take me on? Name the time and place. "Mommy! Daddy! I'm scared--- the evil chickenhawk wants to beat me up!" :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbrook15 Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 "Mommy! Daddy! I'm scared--- the evil chickenhawk wants to beat me up!" :D lol, now thats funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted February 17, 2006 Share Posted February 17, 2006 Hillary will pull out allright... Yeah, out of cupcakes. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dark270 Posted February 17, 2006 Author Share Posted February 17, 2006 LOL Me? Arrogant? At least I don't look like like a zombie. Is that a recent photo?Don't worry. I was just kidding. You can come out from under the bed. still did not answer the question...... at least my name aint trimdingaling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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sprinter Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 The reason I said "you" was because Canada wasn't in it. I did not want to take undue credit. The country of Viet Nam is communist, but who is the loser? Communism has not spread in Asia since. They also have Communism in Cuba. They got what they wanted. I hope they are enjoying it. As for Hillary, she now favors the war. She is a political animal who cares only for herself. She will not win in '08. Her husband used to bomb Iraq to bump Monica off the 6 o'clock news. :P I saw a show on the History Channel about Castro and the Cuban revolution. Castro wasn’t a communist until some time after the revolution ended. Castro, wanting to be friends with the U.S. made an unannounced trip to Washington in 1959 to see the president. Castro told the interviewer that they wouldn’t even offer him a cup of coffee. “But Castro was not internationally welcomed. Soon after the coup, he went to America where he was refused a meeting with President Eisenhower. Snubbed, he soon joined forces with the Soviet leader, Nikita Khruschev.†(from http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/244974.stm†Seems to me our government’s arrogance and ignorance steered Castro to the Soviet Union. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dork270 Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 oh your cool I thought you would like that! My jedi can whip your jedi's butt!! :happy feet: :happy feet: :happy feet: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Glory_dayzd Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 So Castro only decided to take over Cuba because he didn't get a cup of coffee. Where does a dictator find a friend? Even a dictator of a dirt poor country is richer than a president of a democracy, because every penny passes through his sticky fingers. He has to keep the people poor or they will revolt. The US could liberate Cuba any time they wanted. Why do them any favors? They love communism. Let them live it. I am Canadian. Many of my friends go to Cuba for vacations. I wouldn't go there if they paid me. Trimdingman, our poor misguided friend, I have a short article for you. Feb. 17, 2006 0:57 US judge tosses deportee's Syrian-torture lawsuit By ASSOCIATED PRESS Citing national security concerns, a US federal judge on Thursday tossed out a civil rights lawsuit brought by a Canadian man who claimed US counterterrorism officials deported him so he could be tortured in Syria. Maher Arar had sued officials in 2004 in what was believed to be the first case challenging extraordinary rendition - the policy of transferring foreign terror suspects to third countries without court approval. Maher Arar had sued officials in 2004 in what was believed to be the first case challenging extraordinary rendition - the policy of transferring foreign terror suspects to third countries without court approval. I truely believe you mean well. But you have this idealistic view of our country as it may have been, but is no more. You speak of democracies, think it is cool that we are imposing democracy upon others, I don't even think it is cool that it has been imposed upon us... "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Below you will find some links to some significant articles you might want to look at, such as the declaration of independence and the bill of rights. Happy reading. http://www.ushistory.org/documents/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chubby Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) [/i][/u] wait a minute! how do I use this crap? O.K.! President George Bush junior.He know what he is all-right.He is a MOTHER FUCKER!!!!! Another thing-lessen the USA dependence on foreign oil and let the NEANDERTHALS in the middle-east fight it out once and for all.House of David versus Islam!!!!! I cant wait to see whos belief in GOD is appropriate.Hey it is ALL about money to the U.S.The military industrial complex,big oil,foreign aid etc.At least the Arabs and Jews are principled!By the way all of the hard currency the US sends over to the middle east is DEFECIT SPENDING!!!! Get your kids a job quickly!!!! How ya been Prince of Darkness? Edited February 18, 2006 by chubby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpmaster Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 Trimdingman, our poor misguided friend, I have a short article for you. Feb. 17, 2006 0:57 US judge tosses deportee's Syrian-torture lawsuit By ASSOCIATED PRESS Citing national security concerns, a US federal judge on Thursday tossed out a civil rights lawsuit brought by a Canadian man who claimed US counterterrorism officials deported him so he could be tortured in Syria. Maher Arar had sued officials in 2004 in what was believed to be the first case challenging extraordinary rendition - the policy of transferring foreign terror suspects to third countries without court approval. Maher Arar had sued officials in 2004 in what was believed to be the first case challenging extraordinary rendition - the policy of transferring foreign terror suspects to third countries without court approval. I truely believe you mean well. But you have this idealistic view of our country as it may have been, but is no more. You speak of democracies, think it is cool that we are imposing democracy upon others, I don't even think it is cool that it has been imposed upon us... "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." Below you will find some links to some significant articles you might want to look at, such as the declaration of independence and the bill of rights. Happy reading. Again, I agree with your conclusion, but your premise is misstaken. Example: the original pledge of allegiance. The ORIGINAL pledge was written by Francis Bellamy in 1892. Bellamy was a christian Socialist---that's right, a Socialist! The pledge he wrote goes: "I pledge allegiance, to my flag, and to the republic, for which it stands, on nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all." No "under god" at all. Until pious, useless politicians inserted those words. What a shame. http://www.ushistory.org/documents/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Imawhosure Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) Hey Trim and others who support Trims way of thinking, Why don't you guys stop posting for a moment, and go read at what Al Gore had to say in the land of Saud last week while giving his speech in that wonderful country!!!!!! All you need do is read his words, and you will have all the ammo you need to shut these liberals up for at least a week. Regardless of where these people come down on politics, if they support what Al said, it will be very easy to carve them up as anti-American, Canadian. Doubt me, lololol!!!!!! Even his own party has told him basically to SHUT UP and backpedal as fast as you can. This speech alone tells us GW may not have been right guy to elect back then, but of the 2 we could vote for in the national election, he was the only choice viable. When your own party tells you to SHUTUP, you know that Houston, we have a problem, lolololololol!!!!!!!!! I dunno if Bush is a hypocrite, but Al just took himself out of the next presidential race for sure, by showing everyone he is "closet anti American-Canadian." What's more, he gave the voting public confidence that the WRONG guy was not elected as president in 2000. I luv when a liberal opens their mouth and speaks from the heart, and in the process, shoots themselves and their party in the foot! Edited February 18, 2006 by Imawhosure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Glory_dayzd Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 (edited) Pump, if you go to the link, it will give you the history of the document and tell you exactly when 'under God' was added, under Eisenhower. Edited February 18, 2006 by Glory_dayzd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted February 18, 2006 Author Share Posted February 18, 2006 Hey Trim and others who support Trims way of thinking, Why don't you guys stop posting for a moment, and go read at what Al Gore had to say in the land of Saud last week while giving his speech in that wonderful country!!!!!! All you need do is read his words, and you will have all the ammo you need to shut these liberals up for at least a week. Regardless of where these people come down on politics, if they support what Al said, it will be very easy to carve them up as anti-American, Canadian. Doubt me, lololol!!!!!! Even his own party has told him basically to SHUT UP and backpedal as fast as you can. This speech alone tells us GW may not have been right guy to elect back then, but of the 2 we could vote for in the national election, he was the only choice viable. When your own party tells you to SHUTUP, you know that Houston, we have a problem, lolololololol!!!!!!!!! I dunno if Bush is a hypocrite, but Al just took himself out of the next presidential race for sure, by showing everyone he is "closet anti American-Canadian." What's more, he gave the voting public confidence that the WRONG guy was not elected as president in 2000. I luv when a liberal opens their mouth and speaks from the heart, and in the process, shoots themselves and their party in the foot! now you have said twice.....'i dunno if bush is .....' why dont you make you mind up?? or is the job losses not enough?? maybe ford needs to go bankrupt first, LOL keep following your god, bush.....maybe he can lead you to the promised land.....and btw, the republicans have there dan quayle too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory_dayzd Posted February 18, 2006 Share Posted February 18, 2006 You are going over every document with a fine-toothed comb in a witch hunt. Where are you from? Are you an enemy agent/dupe? What happens to enemy POWs is not a major concern to me. They could just as easily have been shot. They are lucky to be alive. My 10th great-grandfather's signature is on the Mayflower Compact (John Billington). There are a billion or so people who believe that we should all die and many are trying to make it happen. Maybe you are ok with that, but I am not. This system is not perfect. Sometimes mistakes are made, and injustice done to an individual. Unlike other systems, that person has recourse. He will probably end up a very rich man. I cannot understand why some Americans (and Canadians) are trying to undermine the greatest empire the world has ever seen. Be happy. We are the most well-off people who ever lived. The ones who want to destroy us are jealous. Some of them are so screwed up, that when we offer them a chance to have what we have, they would rather die. Some people here are so screwed up that they agree with them. Many people born with wealth who have never experienced hardship are soft, and they do not realize that other people are stronger than they are. These people are often the ones who are in power and feel the need to do something to fulfil their useless lives. They do this by introducing social programs out of a Freudian instinct to create more people like themselves. AHHH! You just don't get it, and probably never will. Keep your blinders on, then. And do you ever read what you write? You don't always make a whole lot of sense. I am from Georgia. Not that it matters. 'A Freudian instinct to creat more people like themselves'. That is actually funny, since Freud's disfunctional theories revolved mainly around the male appendage, whether female or male, rather than the creation of others like themselves. Play nice... Maybe you are the enemy/agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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