New Accord Mpg

[FordBuyer]

Fuel mileage for new Accord was reported today and for V6 with 268 hp the EPA ratings are 17 city and 25 highway with 6 speed manual. Looks like Taurus kicks ass here and with automatic also. God knows what new Accord gets with automatic. The 4 cylinder Accord kicks out 167hp and with 5 speed manual gets I believe 21 city and 31 highway, and 30 highway with 5 speed manual. So much for Honda being fuel mileage king. Pilot, Ridgeline, Odyssey, and now Accord are no fuel sippers anymore. I figure next new Civic will be as large as present Accord and new Accord is now large car with more interior space, but surprisingly mediocre trunk space.

[akirby]

The auto v6 gets 19/29 thanks to cylinder deactivation. The manual must be tuned for performance instead of mileage.

Edited August 21, 2007 by akirby

[ANTAUS]

The coupe also doesn't get cylinder activation...I guess they want to have instant power available if need be.

[pcsario]

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[2005Explorer]

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So are you partying because you think that Honda is doing well or not?

Edited August 22, 2007 by 2005Explorer

[2005Explorer]

double post

Edited August 22, 2007 by 2005Explorer

[armadamaster]

Riveting.....my 13 year old fullsized Roadmaster with automatic and 260 HP V8 gets a very real 26 MPG HWY. :reading:

[waymondospiff]

Comparisons for 2008 models.

 

Honda Accord (From honda's press release, nothing from fueleconomy.gov yet)

2.4L 4cyl 5-speed auto - 21c/31h

2.4L 4cyl 5-speed man - ???

2.4L 4cyl H.O. 5-speed auto - ???

2.4L 4cyl H.O. 5-speed man - ???

3.5L V6 5-speed auto - 19c/29h (with cylinder deactivation)

3.5L V6 6-speed man - 17c/25h (coupe only)

 

Toyota Camry

Hybrid CVT - 33c/34h (Wasn't it 43c/41h last year?)

2.4L 4cyl 5-speed auto - 21c/31h

2.4L 4cyl 5-speed man - 21c/31h (they still offer a manual Camry?)

3.5L V6 6-speed auto - 19c/28h

 

Chevy Malibu, Saturn Aura, & Pontiac G6

Hybrid 4-speed auto - 24c/32h (Malibu & Aura only)

2.4L 4cyl 4-speed auto - 22c/30h

3.5L V6 4-speed auto - 18c/29h

3.6L V6 6-speed auto - 17c/26h

3.9L V6 4-speed auto - 15c/22h (G6 only)

 

Hyundai Sonata

2.4L 4cyl 5-speed man - 21c/31h

2.4L 4cyl 4-speed auto - 21c/30h

3.3L V6 5-speed auto - 19c/28h

 

Chrysler Sebring & Dodge Avenger

2.4L 4cyl 4-speed auto - 21c/30h

2.7L V6 4-speed auto - 19c/27h

3.5L V6 6-speed auto - 16c/26h

3.5L V6 6-speed auto AWD - 15/24h (These are offered with AWD?)

 

Mazda6

2.3L 4cyl 5-speed man - 21c/29h

2.3L 4cyl 5-speed auto - 21c/28h

3.0L V6 6-speed auto - 18c/25h

3.0L V6 5-speed man - 17c/25h

 

Ford Fusion & Mercury Milan

2.3L 4cyl 5-speed man - 20c/29h

2.3L 4cyl 5-speed auto - 20c/28h

3.0L V6 6-speed auto - 18c/26h

3.0L V6 6-speed auto AWD - 17c/25h

 

Ford Taurus & Mercury Sable

3.5L V6 6-speed auto - 18c/28h

3.5L V6 6-speed auto AWD - 17c/24h

 

VW Passat

2.0L (t) 4cyl 6-speed man - 21c/29h

2.0L (t) 4cyl 6-speed auto - 19c/28h

3.6L V6 6-speed auto - 17c/36h

3.6L V6 6-speed auto AWD - 16c/24h

 

Sorry about the format, there isn't too much I can do with the limits of internet boards.

 

But it looks to me like Honda remains one of the leaders in the pack for fuel economy - with the exception of the 3.5L/manual coupe. One note though, the Accord's 3.5L 19c/29h rating is achieved with cylinder deactivation. I know that in some of GM's products with cylinder deactivation (the 5.3L V8 in Tahoe/Yukon and Impala) the C.D. system doesn't work on most 70+ mph highways because the power needed to cruise at such high speeds isn't available from only four cylinders thereby making cylinder deactivation worthless. It'll be interesting to see if that's the case for Honda or if they can make C.D. work on high-speed roads.

 

Scott

[2005Explorer]

But it looks to me like Honda remains one of the leaders in the pack for fuel economy - with the exception of the 3.5L/manual coupe. One note though, the Accord's 3.5L 19c/29h rating is achieved with cylinder deactivation. I know that in some of GM's products with cylinder deactivation (the 5.3L V8 in Tahoe/Yukon and Impala) the C.D. system doesn't work on most 70+ mph highways because the power needed to cruise at such high speeds isn't available from only four cylinders thereby making cylinder deactivation worthless. It'll be interesting to see if that's the case for Honda or if they can make C.D. work on high-speed roads.

 

I would say Honda is right in the middle with fuel economy. I think the Taurus and Sable should be commended. They are getting about the same fuel economy as cars that are smaller and weigh less. :happy feet:

[old_fairmont_wagon]

Honda's C.D. system is three mode. 3 cylinder for slow cruising and creaping. 4 cylinder for fast cruising and light acceleration, and 6 cylinder for full power. The only spot where it seems that Ford is defficient on is highway mpg. Lacking cylinder deactivation may be a factor there. Their aerodynamics isn't likey to be worse than the pack. Could be poorer gearing? Or, just, generally inefficient engines in their leaner cruising states.

 

Either way, the notable points here are that, Hyundai, after years of trailing everyone in the mpg catagory, is apparently right in there with there competing offerings. They might be a touch down on power (though, no more so than Ford), but, the Sonata isn't the fuel hog it once was. I can see why GM is moving away from the 3.9L v6. The 3.6L gets better gas mileage and the same power in comparable applications.