armadamaster Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Amazing how much more fun it is to read when you block out the trolls, isn't it? I think I'm getting this: BON Troll: (definition) Supporting actual Ford platforms like the Mustang, Ranger, and Panther makes you a troll. BON :cheerleader: (definition) Undying support of the Mazda Fusion and the Volvo Taurus, while nitpicking about the ancient styling of the 3 year old FORD Mustang with it's cheap interior, ignoring the FORD Ranger in Ford-esque proportions is peachy, while damning their best overall sedan, the FORD Panther platform. Makes sense to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) I think I'm getting this: BON Troll: (definition) Supporting actual Ford platforms like the Mustang, Ranger, and Panther makes you a troll. BON :cheerleader: (definition) Undying support of the Mazda Fusion and the Volvo Taurus, while nitpicking about the ancient styling of the 3 year old FORD Mustang with it's cheap interior, ignoring the FORD Ranger in Ford-esque proportions is peachy, while damning their best overall sedan, the FORD Panther platform. Makes sense to me! Not me...I am a REAL cheerleader. I blindly support ALL of Ford's platforms because they are the best in the world. Edited March 26, 2008 by P71_CrownVic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I think I'm getting this: BON Troll: (definition) Supporting actual Ford platforms like the Mustang, Ranger, and Panther makes you a troll. BON :cheerleader: (definition) Undying support of the Mazda Fusion and the Volvo Taurus, while nitpicking about the ancient styling of the 3 year old FORD Mustang with it's cheap interior, ignoring the FORD Ranger in Ford-esque proportions is peachy, while damning their best overall sedan, the FORD Panther platform. Makes sense to me! You're pretty close.... Ranger needs to be replaced. Panther needs to be replaced. Mustang is being refreshed. And it would be downright idiotic for Ford NOT to use the resources of Mazda and Volvo. Why bother owning them if you aren't going to use them for something? And there's nothing "best overall" about vehicles that have zero appeal to retail customers. If selling a crapload to fleet defines success, the 96-06 Taurus would have saved the company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) Not me...I am a REAL cheerleader. I blindly support ALL of Ford's platforms because they are the best in the world. Same here well said P71, if every Ford platform was as good as the old Panther platform thats still winning bucket loads of JP Power awards and boosting Fords reputation for QUALITY when its just about to go out of production, it just shows how good Fords platforms really are, how old is it? My only problem is the boring bland shit that Ford are putting on top of the platform like the Mundane Mondeo its a waste of good steel thats not making any top 10 best sellers list in the UK or Europe, the Cortina never left the top spot. Edited March 26, 2008 by Ford Jellymoulds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Same here well said P71 if every Ford platform was as good as the old Panther platform thats still winnimg bucket loads of JP Power awards boosting Fords reputation for QUALITY when its going out of production. My only problem is the boring bland shit that are putting on top of the platform like the Mundane Mondeo its a waste of good steel. Like the boring bland shit that is sitting on top of the Panther platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grbeck Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) Ask grbeck, matthewq4b, or anyone else here about my attitude toward Consumer Reports. I consider their survey based reliability reports to be exceptionally sound. I consider their testing regimen to be biased and untrustworthy. That 93% recommendation rating is based on survey results. This is true. I've never heard you take issue with their reliability results. In the magazine's 2008 Auto Issue, the editors again specifically praise Ford for improving reliability, and even say that it is "breaking away from the other domestics in reliability." Edited March 26, 2008 by grbeck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander Drummond Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) Amazing how much more fun it is to read when you block out the trolls, isn't it? Sad thing is, I actually agree with what he says a majority of the time. Same with Armada Master. Just can't stand the attitudes, and feel that I'll resort to the same behavior if I attempt to argue with them. I'm far from a cheerleader, especially seeing as my favorite ford vehicles are the Ranger and the Crown Vic. Doesn't mean that I can't attempt to look at the issues objectively or be nice to other members when I argue. Oh well. :reading: Edited March 26, 2008 by Alexander Drummond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papilgee4evaeva Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Sad thing is, I actually agree with what he says a majority of the time. Same with Armada Master. Just can't stand the attitudes, and feel that I'll resort to the same behavior if I attempt to argue with them. I'm far from a cheerleader, especially seeing as my favorite ford vehicles are the Ranger and the Crown Vic. Doesn't mean that I can't attempt to look at the issues objectively or be nice to other members when I argue. Oh well. :reading: We appreciate it, sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Like the boring bland shit that is sitting on top of the Panther platform? When have you ever been on top of the Panther platform? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Sad thing is, I actually agree with what he says a majority of the time. Same with Armada Master. Just can't stand the attitudes, and feel that I'll resort to the same behavior if I attempt to argue with them. I'm far from a cheerleader, especially seeing as my favorite ford vehicles are the Ranger and the Crown Vic. Doesn't mean that I can't attempt to look at the issues objectively or be nice to other members when I argue. Oh well. :reading: Kinda hard to be nice to people on a Ford board, when they attack you for driving a FORD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 When have you ever been on top of the Panther platform? I said bland and boring, not suave and sexy. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme4x4 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Kinda hard to be nice to people on a Ford board, when they attack you for driving a FORD. They attack you because you act like an ass. Stop acting like an ass, and they will stop attacking you. Pretty simple if you ask me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 They attack you because you act like an ass. Stop acting like an ass, and they will stop attacking you. Pretty simple if you ask me. That means that everyone here that posts is an ass. God forbid, me, a FORD owner, posts his opinion on a FORD board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I said bland and boring Thus...the basis for my question... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atomaro Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 (edited) The thing is, even though you're trying to paint a caricature of the supposed 'cheerleaders', you are still much less ridiculous than you normally are. And thank god I have AM on ignore. P71 as well, now. I happen to find the cheerleader routine pretty entertaining...as long as he doesn't post any pics of himself with his pom-poms, its all good. And no pics of "suave and sexy" Nick either. Edited March 26, 2008 by atomaro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Thus...the basis for my question... Ah. More selective quoting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I happen to find the cheerleader routine pretty entertaining...as long as he doesn't post any pics of himself with his pom-poms, its all good. RJ and suv_guy have the market cornered on pom-poms. Ah. More selective quoting. Yep. It looks like I really am getting the hang of this :cheerleader: thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yep. It looks like I really am getting the hang of this :cheerleader: thing. Go back to the thing. At least then we could tell your obnoxiousness was genuine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Go back to the thing. At least then we could tell your obnoxiousness was genuine. You are a hard person to please...mainly because you can't make up your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 You are a hard person to please...mainly because you can't make up your mind. I've been rather consistent in my opinion on things. If you can provide evidence to the contrary I would love to see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P71_CrownVic Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I've been rather consistent in my opinion on things. If you can provide evidence to the contrary I would love to see it. heh heh... Whatever you say... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I said bland and boring, not suave and sexy. :P You bastard Nick you have hurt poor old P-71 feelings, l suppose you watch all the Blue Brothers films, poor ole P-71 has nightmares everytime it gets shown on TV. You nasty bastard. Here is the best bits from the movie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZZSlY2bYs...feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickF1011 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 heh heh... Whatever you say... Well, concerning Ford's product, this has pretty much been my consistent opinion: Panthers - well, you know that one, so we'll go on to the rest.... Mustang - love it, could use a bit more refinement - look forward to the refresh. Fusion - solid effort. Needs more power though, center stack is ugly, and the guages look simple, but cheap. 4 cylinder engine sucks. Taurus - excellent package in a completely dull wrapper. Focus - ugly as sin, but still somehow an improvement over the last one. Fiesta - looks like it'll be a hit. Love it. Escape - The best that could be done with limited resources. I wouldn't buy one, but it seems to be holding the line until a replacement comes. Edge - Loved this one before it even went on sale. Its success seems to back my opinion. Flex - I think it'll meet expectations. Interior looks fantastic. If I had a family or I was in a band, I would take a serious look at it. Explorer - Hate that freaking snout. Overall shape is getting a bit long-in-tooth. Still a solid vehicle though. Expedition - Pretty solid all around. Suffers a bit from the long-in-tooth exterior shape like the Explorer though. It needs that diesel yesterday! Ranger - This tired old dog needs to be dragged out back and shot. I haven't had a good thing to say about it for years. F-150 - King of the hill, not sold on the '09's looks though - the chromed grilles and tail lights seem overdone. E-series - It is what it is. Businesses like them. Would like to see the Transit offered along side it though. Super Duty - Excellent, excellent. One of the few Ford vehicles I truly cannot find any major faults in. MKZ - Getting there. Still could use a few tweaks, but an overall excellent entry level luxury car. MKX - Should be a bit more distictive from the Edge, but it is doing well regardless. MKS - I think it looks fantastic. Wish power was a bit higher in the base engine, but EcoBoost should help that. Interior looks top notch. MKT - Like it so far, not a big fan of the back end though. Hope it gets a more traditional CUV shape for production. Navigator - Hated the grille when I first saw it. Hate it now. The guage cluster looks terrible, but the rest of the interior is great. Needs more power. Mercury in general - Serves a purpose for the time being, but they need more distinction. I put all the non- :cheerleader: remarks in bold for you, just so you might remember them in the future. Yep. Sure looks like I think everything is perfect in Ford Land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Jellymoulds Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Excellent post Nick l was hoping somebody would do something like this make a list of all Fords cars & trucks so you can make a comment on each and every one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edstock Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Forgot Transit Connect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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