stephenhawkings Posted May 27, 2009 Share Posted May 27, 2009 Not so. Soon global warming will kill all the trees and forests so then we will have clear vision. Anyway, how can you talk about politicians looting in one thread and then back MMGW predominantly pushed by govt paid scientists, the UN, and Al Gore in another thread? It aint right I'm tellin ya! Peace and Blessings well i can because politicians do loot, and MMGW, or environmental alteration/degradation that results in less than favorable conditions for life forms other than human does happen. many people might not like or agree with one or both of those items, and you might be able to argue, obscure, or distort those concepts to you liking/disliking, but nonetheless it happens! I am wondering will this thread live on till the next election? or are we going to get over the election before then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted May 28, 2009 Share Posted May 28, 2009 ANOTHER JOE BIDEN GAFFE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 I am wondering will this thread live on till the next election? or are we going to get over the election before then? Yes it will because as some of know BO and GWB are no different. You have be hoodwinked by his lies http://www.examiner.com/x-9462-LA-Independ...he-middle-class Despite receiving the majority of middle class votes, George Bush was one of the worst presidents for the middle class. Bush promoted free trade deals that sent our jobs overseas, promoted amnesty for illegal immigrants, and greater guest worker programs while our borders remain unsecured. Bush continued to spend to the point of breaking Lyndon Johnson's record by increasing the size of government. He borrowed from nations that are not the friendliest such as China and Saudi Arabia contributing to the current financial crisis, while the federal reserve printed money out of thin air devaluing our currency. Bush passed massive tax cuts that favored the wealthy and did nothing to address the budget deficit. Bush was denounced by his political opponents as a tool of corporate and oil interest. Obama was able to capitalize on Bush's failed economic policies but, in reality, has continued Bush's economic assault on the middle class. Obama spoke out against corporate greed but, along with McCain, supported the bailouts of Wall Street signed by President Bush. Obama's second top source of donations was the financial firm Goldman Sachs which received billions in bailout money from the taxpayers. Obama appointed Timothy Geithner as Secretary of the Treasury who, as chairman of the New York Branch of the Federal Reserve, arranged the bailout of Lehman Brothers. Geithner also stated he is open to the idea of a global currency. On spending, Obama has continued the same economic policies of the Bush administration of deficit spending and printing money out of thin air through the Federal Reserve. Obama supported the McCain/Kennedy amnesty bill in the Senate that Bush supported and vows to bring back so called comprehensive immigration reform as president. Obama flip flopped on the issue of reforming NAFTA during the democratic primary but has failed to address reforming it since then. The middle class has been hard hit by the financial and foreclosure crisis caused by the economic and financial policies of Bush's administration and now Obama's. Massive immigration, both legal and illegal, continues. Our borders remain unsecure and the middle class continues to loose jobs due to the financial crisis and outsourcing. Obama is no friend of the middle class. He is a tool of international finance, multi-national corporations, the military industrial complex, and has strong socialist leanings. Many think socialism and financial capital are at opposite ends of the economic spectrum. This could be no further from the truth. Socialists want more customers for the welfare state to sustain their political power. That is why the democratic establishment supports massive immigration. They want to increase their power base. They bribe voters with social programs. Many of these perceived leftist causes are financed by Wall Street financiers. The financial and corporate elites want open borders because they profit off the cheap labor and want a feudalist economic system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenhawkings Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 Yes it will because as some of know BO and GWB are no different. You have be hoodwinked by his lies http://www.examiner.com/x-9462-LA-Independ...he-middle-class "some of know" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted May 29, 2009 Share Posted May 29, 2009 "some of know""some of us know"I believe he was saying that meaning people with our eyes open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 This car runs on hot air and broken promises. It has three wheels that speed the vehicle through tight left turns. It comes complete with two Teleprompters programmed to help the occupants talk their way out of any violations. The transparent canopy reveals the plastic smiles still on the faces of all the "happy" Democrat owners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUCKRACER Posted June 1, 2009 Share Posted June 1, 2009 This car runs on hot air and broken promises. It has three wheels that speed the vehicle through tight left turns. It comes complete with two Teleprompters programmed to help the occupants talk their way out of any violations. The transparent canopy reveals the plastic smiles still on the faces of all the "happy" Democrat owners. ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sprinter Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 "some of know" Let me clear it up for you, "some of us know". Sorry I didn't pass your grammar test. But as my post's argument states, some of us know what is going on, while you, in my humble opinion is one who "doesn't know". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 obama's magic jobs numbers: Mr. Obama has an ingenious approach to job losses: He describes them as job gains. For example, last week the president claimed that 150,000 jobs had been created or saved because of his stimulus package. He boasted, "And that's just the beginning." However, at the beginning of January, 134.3 million people were employed. At the start of May, 132.4 million Americans were working. How was Mr. Obama magically able to conjure this loss of 1.9 million jobs into an increase of 150,000 jobs? LINK ;.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro-man Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) obama's magic jobs numbers: LINK ;.) Yeah yeah, it's all Obama's fault. Because everybody expected the whole thing to be turned around already. Who, but who ever woulda thunk that we'd still be in the recession by now at this extremely late date, already 135 days since he took office!?!? I'm incredulous! Great article! ..... What's it in? WSJ? Who's it by? Carl Rove!?!? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Try finding someone without a Jupiter-sized ax to grind if you want your link to have even a tiny tiny bit of credibility. Oh, and maybe a premise that isn't ridiculous and moronic would be good too. p.s. Bored, not to tear the "teleprompter" blankie out of your little hands, but .... you did watch the debates, didn't you? (Answer honestly now.) Or were you busy taking your vitamin 'P' those nights? Because he wasn't using a teleprompter then, and he managed to kick ass just fine. Not to let reality intrude on your Hannity-fueled delusions or anything. Edited June 4, 2009 by retro-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 Yeah yeah, it's all Obama's fault. Because everybody expected the whole thing to be turned around already. Who, but who ever woulda thunk that we'd still be in the recession by now at this extremely late date, already 135 days since he took office!?!? I'm incredulous! Great article! ..... What's it in? WSJ? Who's it by? Carl Rove!?!? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Try finding someone without a Jupiter-sized ax to grind if you want your link to have even a tiny tiny bit of credibility. Oh, and maybe a premise that isn't ridiculous and moronic would be good too. p.s. Bored, not to tear the "teleprompter" blankie out of your little hands, but .... you did watch the debates, didn't you? (Answer honestly now.) Or were you busy taking your vitamin 'P' those nights? Because he wasn't using a teleprompter then, and he managed to kick ass just fine. Not to let reality intrude on your Hannity-fueled delusions or anything. so would you rather get a quote from huffington or maybe move on?.....I'm sure they'd be more believable to you.....think back if you will to the campaign when this moron said he was the one that could turn the economy around...he owns this economy now by virtue of the $786 billion (you remember that don't you?)...the stimulus bill that had to be signed immediately....no time to read what's in it....just pass it so he could sign it!....Rove has forgotten more about being the POTUS than obama ever know..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro-man Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) delete double post. Edited June 4, 2009 by retro-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro-man Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) so would you rather get a quote from huffington or maybe move on?.....I'm sure they'd be more believable to you.....think back if you will to the campaign when this moron said he was the one that could turn the economy around...he owns this economy now by virtue of the $786 billion (you remember that don't you?)...the stimulus bill that had to be signed immediately....no time to read what's in it....just pass it so he could sign it!....Rove has forgotten more about being the POTUS than obama ever know..... Wait wait wait, let me get this straight: You're railing on Obama's stimulus package, but Bush's $700b bailout of financial institutions signed into law in Oct of '08 gets a pass? (you remember that, don't you?) Ok, I'll try and make it simple. Here's a picture for ya: This is the situation that Obama walked into, God bless him. He's the President now - the leader. He gets to decide what position his administration is going to take on solving the problem - which to remind you - is a once in 75 years economic shitstorm that "The Decider" managed to set well into motion by the time he left office - towards the end of his 8 years. I don't get you. p.s. You still remind me of Dale Gribble when you use the term "POTUS". Edited June 4, 2009 by retro-man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Wait wait wait, let me get this straight: You're railing on Obama's stimulus package, but Bush's $700b bailout of financial institutions signed into law in Oct of '08 gets a pass? (you remember that, don't you?) Ok, I'll try and make it simple. Here's a picture for ya: This is the situation that Obama walked into, God bless him. He's the President now - the leader. He gets to decide what position his administration is going to take on solving the problem - which to remind you - is a once in 75 years economic shitstorm that "The Decider" managed to set well into motion by the time he left office - towards the end of his 8 years. I don't get you. p.s. You still remind me of Dale Gribble when you use the term "POTUS". So you justify obama's stimulus package because Bush did the same?....(and by the way, I never gave him a pass for that) and then you have the nerve to say you don't get me.... the Congressional Budget Office estimates that unemployment will reach 10% by the last quarter of 2010... now if my public education serves me, that would be very near the end of the first half of this moron's term....so will that still be Bush's fault.....the only good in that will be that Americans will have their fill of this idiot and he will be politically neutered by the mid-term elections..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Employment always trails the economy. You can't blame Obama for what's happening and to try to do so is silly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmccap Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 the Congressional Budget Office estimates that unemployment will reach 10% by the last quarter of 2010... We'll hit that in 09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro-man Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Employment always trails the economy. You can't blame Obama for what's happening and to try to do so is silly. As I pointed out in my first post on the matter, the whole premise of the article is ridiculous and moronic. At least Rove knows who his audience is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 More job losses!!!! Another obama failure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macattak1 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Yeah yeah, it's all Obama's fault. Because everybody expected the whole thing to be turned around already. Who, but who ever woulda thunk that we'd still be in the recession by now at this extremely late date, already 135 days since he took office!?!? I'm incredulous! Great article! ..... What's it in? WSJ? Who's it by? Carl Rove!?!? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Try finding someone without a Jupiter-sized ax to grind if you want your link to have even a tiny tiny bit of credibility. Oh, and maybe a premise that isn't ridiculous and moronic would be good too. p.s. Bored, not to tear the "teleprompter" blankie out of your little hands, but .... you did watch the debates, didn't you? (Answer honestly now.) Or were you busy taking your vitamin 'P' those nights? Because he wasn't using a teleprompter then, and he managed to kick ass just fine. Not to let reality intrude on your Hannity-fueled delusions or anything. OK. Now that you got that out of your system. How about those +150k jobs in a -1.9 million jobs period? Peace and Blessings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 (edited) Yeah yeah, it's all Obama's fault. Because everybody expected the whole thing to be turned around already. Who, but who ever woulda thunk that we'd still be in the recession by now at this extremely late date, already 135 days since he took office!?!? I'm incredulous! Great article! ..... What's it in? WSJ? Who's it by? Carl Rove!?!? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: Try finding someone without a Jupiter-sized ax to grind if you want your link to have even a tiny tiny bit of credibility. Oh, and maybe a premise that isn't ridiculous and moronic would be good too. p.s. Bored, not to tear the "teleprompter" blankie out of your little hands, but .... you did watch the debates, didn't you? (Answer honestly now.) Or were you busy taking your vitamin 'P' those nights? Because he wasn't using a teleprompter then, and he managed to kick ass just fine. Not to let reality intrude on your Hannity-fueled delusions or anything. Hannity fueled delusions? I watched a couple and especially the ones with all the candidates and quite frankly your President sounded like a stumblebum without the telepromter. More like trying to cover up his dialect if you "aks" me Edited June 5, 2009 by Bored of Pisteon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Employment always trails the economy. You can't blame Obama for what's happening and to try to do so is silly. Gas is going up again. I guess it's time to blame Obama now that Bush is gone right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
napfirst Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Gas is going up again. I guess it's time to blame Obama now that Bush is gone right? It will be interesting to see who they blame......I'm sure Retro will find some obscure connection back to Bush.....so far nothing is moron's fault... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suv_guy_19 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Since I never blamed Bush I don't plan to blame Obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retro-man Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 More like trying to cover up his dialect if you "aks" me Nice. Well at least now we know what your real issue with the man is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bored of Pisteon Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Nice. Well at least now we know what your real issue with the man is. Nice try. But I can see through the phoniness unlike you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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