Furious1Auto Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Here is a gift from your brothers/sister from Ford Fanatic Forums! The New Tentative agreement LINK! Edited February 28, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 The New Tentative agreement LINK! Fine then I will bump this one before I go to bed, been a long day up since 7am Great Job all that helped the members get the language out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 Fine then I will bump this one before I go to bed, been a long day up since 7am Great Job all that helped the members get the language out. Good night bro, we have war to wage tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bottomfeeder Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Great find.... All of our commiteemen are tradhing this piece of sh**, and I agree totally. VO NO!!! :stats: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Great find.... All of our commiteemen are tradhing this piece of sh**, and I agree totally. VO NO!!! :stats: A collection of our members received and, assembled these documents for you all. Edited February 26, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FemInstaller Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Here is a gift from your brothers/sister from Ford Fanatic Forums! The New Tentative agreement LINK! Thank you very much. It is obvious that you care more about our membership than our elected officials. The only thing being passed out at Local 3000 are copies that have been downloaded from here. Elected officials actually have an attitude because these copies are floating around. So much for keeping your membership informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm2607 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Fine then I will bump this one before I go to bed, been a long day up since 7am Great Job all that helped the members get the language out.And I'm going to bump it back to the top. Thanks everyone for doing this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnotherAutoWorker Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Is anyone else having trouble opening the link? Are my always inconvenient computer bugs acting up again or has the link been disabled? Edited February 26, 2009 by AnotherAutoWorker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
level Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Here is a gift from your brothers/sister from Ford Fanatic Forums! The New Tentative agreement LINK! Furious.. I will help to ry and answer questions....but let's try to keep them all on this one link please....I only have limited time so responses may be somewhat sporadic.........I will answer all I can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Furious.. I will help to ry and answer questions....but let's try to keep them all on this one link please....I only have limited time so responses may be somewhat sporadic.........I will answer all I can. Fair enough, now you all have a place to talk with the I-UAW. Don't kill the messenger, this is the best you will all have it! If you guys beat him up, why would he even do this much! Edited February 26, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Furious.. I will help to ry and answer questions....but let's try to keep them all on this one link please....I only have limited time so responses may be somewhat sporadic.........I will answer all I can. Level, you are a rarity! An IUAW who doesn't forget where he came from and who still cares about the rank and file. This is a very emotional time for us all and you have taken a great deal of time to answer questions to the best of your ability and validate our concerns. I appreciate all that you do, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Level what did we get in return for the company taking away the performance bonus, when it was in their best interests to keep it in place! I suppose all sensitive material should be answered on FF for the members that have access to both sites! What is revealed on FF, stays on FF! Otherwise the revealing member will lose their ability to access the UAW/Ford forums! Some of the ino needs to stay out of the public eye! Edited February 26, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Level what did we get in return for the company taking away the performance bonus, when it was in their best interests to keep it in place! that, and i want to know what everyone(iuaw- and high up salary) will be giving up ... ??????? otherwise, i am voting NO. Edited February 26, 2009 by dark271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daytrader millionaire Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Furious.. I will help to ry and answer questions....but let's try to keep them all on this one link please....I only have limited time so responses may be somewhat sporadic.........I will answer all I can. Level is ohap getting the TRANSIT OR TRANSIT CONNECT OR BOTH??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious1Auto Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Level is ohap getting the TRANSIT OR TRANSIT CONNECT OR BOTH??? It is still not clearly stated in the language of the tentative agreement. page# 2U Edited February 26, 2009 by Furious1Auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FiredMotorCompany Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 (edited) Level, i. Mechanical Trades include what classifications? Excludes what skilled trades classifications? (pg. 20) ii. Surplus Skilled Trades will be placed on production jobs and paid based on that classification (pay cut)? (pg. 26-27) iii. What limits Company from clearing all skilled trades (over some time) into production and then out as lower pay combined classification? (pg. 26-27) iv. COLA is gone completely, Base rate only? Or does it lock at current level? (pg. 10) v. What are the terms of the Alternative Work Schedules (AWS) at the named facilities? (pg. 3) vi. What access will the Company have to Wellness Criteria physical exam results. Can they access those results? Do they get a "peek"? The language says it will not be used for discipline or negatively impact an employee's employment status. If company pays for exam, they can access those results, unless I have it wrong. (pg. 14-15) vii. Future Product Commitments-just a carrot? (pg. 2U) Thanks for your time. Edited February 26, 2009 by FiredMotorCompany Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Here is a question that needs answering: The Rouge has many plants that have trades on an alternative work schedule. Some weeks we only work 3 days in the Mon to Sun pay period. Without the 1 1/4 on weekends or 1 1/2 after 8 hours, we will only get paid 34.5 hours that week. Will we get short work week because of the suspension of the no OT until after 40 hours, or will our local alternative schedule stay the same and overrule the national contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Here is a gift from your brothers/sister from Ford Fanatic Forums! The New Tentative agreement LINK! First... Thank you. But how about not putting it in a condescending manner ? After all it isnt the Davinci Code. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 1- At 6 plants employee's will loose SUB/TAP credit weeks on a TLO , while at most facilities members will not loose SUB/TAP weeks unless they are placed on ILO. My questions are How is this not seen by the I-UAW negotiators as a divide and conqueror tactic, that even pay no mind to employee's seniority? 2- Page 34 white pages " Fixed Price Fundings" concerning VEBA , does this part mean even if Ford stock is higher than $2.20 or lower than $2.00 a share that regardless of market value the New Note B stock will only be valued at those 3 set prices ? More to come thanks for taking the time in advance one day was not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lquidspine Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 First... Thank you. But how about not putting it in a condescending manner ? After all it isn't the Davinci Code. Considering most officials would even deny having those pages, we should be happy we have the real language.... Something most of us bitch about every vote anyway. So there it is now besides a few agreements that will go no further than the very top leadership down at Solidarity House, we have the language and not just the highlights. Start reading :reading: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoopy Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Here is a gift from your brothers/sister from Ford Fanatic Forums! The New Tentative agreement LINK! Thanks for the hard work and heads up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 First... Thank you. But how about not putting it in a condescending manner ? After all it isnt the Davinci Code. No one is being condescending. We're all kind of being smart asses at this point because of all the crap going on, do you blame us? It took a lot of time and effort to get these pages, scan them, transfer them in original format and then convert them into .pdf so that EVERYONE could have access to them. I'd like to thank those people who were involved in that. They took the initiative that we could only hope our ELECTED reps would take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark270 Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 (edited) No one is being condescending. We're all kind of being smart asses at this point because of all the crap going on, do you blame us? It took a lot of time and effort to get these pages, scan them, transfer them in original format and then convert them into .pdf so that EVERYONE could have access to them. I'd like to thank those people who were involved in that. They took the initiative that we could only hope our ELECTED reps would take. in the next episode of DA comrade code you get to see SPRING, in all her glory......... i certainly appreciate that effort... besides i like being conascending....that way i can stick a #$^#^% $^$^ lol Edited February 27, 2009 by dark271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whereswaldo Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 No one is being condescending. We're all kind of being smart asses at this point because of all the crap going on, do you blame us? It took a lot of time and effort to get these pages, scan them, transfer them in original format and then convert them into .pdf so that EVERYONE could have access to them. I'd like to thank those people who were involved in that. They took the initiative that we could only hope our ELECTED reps would take. As I said, thank you but dont present it as a "gift" to the masses. THAT is condescending esp. in reference to FFF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Posted February 27, 2009 Share Posted February 27, 2009 As I said, thank you but dont present it as a "gift" to the masses. THAT is condescending esp. in reference to FFF. I'll tell Furious not to be a smart ass anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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